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GenericAmerican said:
Well played sir.
So yes, besides the obvious like not being able to wipe your ass with electronics, some people are just more comfortable with paper. And others, of the older generation, may be difficult to teach technologies to.
When I was in college I wanted to make a point of not printing paper for my online reading assignments then I realized that even though you can highlight and modify the document on your PC you can do the same shit in half the time with a highlighter and a pen.
My personal preference is using "primitive tools" I guess.
My personal preference is using "primitive tools" I guess.
Because paper based media is so much more economically viable?
The day humans forget how to write will be a sad sad day.
The day humans forget how to write will be a sad sad day.
Because electronic devices are more susceptible to damage and take longer to use when making notes.
Any time I need to brainstorm something or do some math, I'm sure as hell going to use paper and a pencil. Sure, I can type faster than I write but my hands are a lot more dexterous with a pencil than a keyboard (i.e. making corrections, crossing out words, quickly underlining key points).
And when it comes to electronics, you'll eventually have to be plugged in. Sure, the battery life may be great but you have to recharge it at some point. Paper and some pencils, you can bring that shit anywhere and use it whenever.
Plus, I prefer the tactile feel of pen and paper over the a touch screen or keyboard.
Any time I need to brainstorm something or do some math, I'm sure as hell going to use paper and a pencil. Sure, I can type faster than I write but my hands are a lot more dexterous with a pencil than a keyboard (i.e. making corrections, crossing out words, quickly underlining key points).
And when it comes to electronics, you'll eventually have to be plugged in. Sure, the battery life may be great but you have to recharge it at some point. Paper and some pencils, you can bring that shit anywhere and use it whenever.
Plus, I prefer the tactile feel of pen and paper over the a touch screen or keyboard.
The back of my cereal box unfortunately doesn't support MS Word, so they had to use good old paper. It's also a lot easier for me to read certain things on paper, especially lengthy reports in which I do a lot of highlighting and skipping back and forth between pages.
Btw, no offense, but you seem awfully passionate with your anti-paper agenda. It's not worth getting riled up about, man!
Btw, no offense, but you seem awfully passionate with your anti-paper agenda. It's not worth getting riled up about, man!
Hmm writing I can understand the need to do away with. I type pretty much everything and rarely write, not that I don't. I love making some rough drafts of short stories on paper but it'll eventually be printed. Probably won't ever happen but if all electronics failed for some reason, we need writing.
As for books, fuck e readers. I like physical copies of books that I can sit and read while drinking some coffee and having a smoke not leaned up against a wall cause I need to be plugged in. Plus I like to use my books as decoration once i'm done. My giant ass bookcase will go to waste if I just place a nook or kindle fire on it.
As for books, fuck e readers. I like physical copies of books that I can sit and read while drinking some coffee and having a smoke not leaned up against a wall cause I need to be plugged in. Plus I like to use my books as decoration once i'm done. My giant ass bookcase will go to waste if I just place a nook or kindle fire on it.
Because of reasons!ducktapemax said:
1. Culture, paper has and always be a part of human culture, it has many uses other than just writing on, an example would be cigarettes, filter paper(it's a science thing), and lampshades.
2. Science, This one is more of a guess than anything, oxygen as you all very well know is extremely flammable, so what if we stopped cutting down trees? too much oxygen and the whole world can become a fireball. Admittedly this reason is a pretty bad one.
3.Convenience, tell me this, have you ever had to troubleshoot a book? no? how about a piece of technology? Unlike an I-pad or whatever, a book won't have bugs and malfunctions. Furthermore you wouldn't have to keep recharging a book to use it.
4.Economy, money wise a lot of jobs depend on the paper industry, loggers, truckers, the list goes on. Cutting out the paper industry (that was a pun, you may laugh now) would have severe affects for the economy world wide.
5.Promotion, how would you promote something in the physical plane of existence? with no paper you can't plaster posters to promote a new concert or lost pet posters, fliers would be non-existent as well.
If you drop a bundle of papers in a puddle, you can replace the paper for a few bucks. Drop an Ipad in a puddle...
Because GOD HELP US ALL if we get EMP'd.
There's tons of things that can go wrong with tech, much of which wouldn't affect a sturdy cabinet with papers in it. EMP blast? Paper survives. Power overload? Paper survives. Fire or flood? A good quality storage solution might survive. Hackers attack you? They can't hack paper.
Also, reading lots of words on a screen makes me nauseous. Forums are about my maximum. If I'm going to read a lot, I prefer a book form.
There's tons of things that can go wrong with tech, much of which wouldn't affect a sturdy cabinet with papers in it. EMP blast? Paper survives. Power overload? Paper survives. Fire or flood? A good quality storage solution might survive. Hackers attack you? They can't hack paper.
Also, reading lots of words on a screen makes me nauseous. Forums are about my maximum. If I'm going to read a lot, I prefer a book form.
I've tried taking notes on my laptop, things just stick better in my head if I write it out on paper.
I also enjoy drawing in the traditional media, aka, pencil and paper.
So while I see paper as certainly becoming more of a niche thing, I can't really see it disappearing forever.
I also enjoy drawing in the traditional media, aka, pencil and paper.
So while I see paper as certainly becoming more of a niche thing, I can't really see it disappearing forever.
Made me lol for like ten minutes xDGenericAmerican said:
Physical copies are great. They can't be hacked, virused, etc. If you do not have access to an outlet or loose power you still can access copies of things and also write down things. In some places digital is simply not a valid option long term.
I hate using digipads and screens to write on or draw on. There is a difference in the feel of actual paper and pen...
In short, I think it's because there's just too much uncertainty and too little access for most technology.omega 616 said:
Technology is awfully dependent on a lot of things. Things like Apple's iPad, the Nook or Kindle tablets, or any number of equivalent technologies do much of their storage and processing on cloud storage. For first world countries, this is a non-issue, but someone deep in the rainforest or out in the desert don't generally have access to even the most remote of technologies (save satellite, which is slow and often prohibitively expensive). If they have documents they need, be it scientific journals on well-digging or the pamphlets to hand out to local tribes/villages about any number of topics (Child care, education, crop rotation, contraception, crude or advanced tools for construction, etc.), it's much more efficient to simply use paper. All of these are much cheaper to carry, distribute, and keep. Much less need access to consistent power to recharge or maintenance for liquid/dust damage.
Secondly is access to technology, and sort of piggybacks on the first. There's roughly 12% of the world that doesn't have access to running water, much less electricity, or the ability to spend $200+ per person in order to give them access to reading material, much less should they ever need to write or notate. (Which, almost assuredly, would be faster than typing on a tablet.) I'm reminded of an old NASA joke:
While untrue, the story speaks to the simplicity of solutions in a majority of places. Paper is significantly cheaper to produce, has fewer requirements for storage and power, low weight, reasonable durability, remarkable longevity, requires no central technology, and is infinitely cheaper to replace.
While I do think paperless is a good way to go in the future, the technology is still too unstable even for most modern cities and offices, much less completely inaccessible for a great deal of peoples.
What do you mean by "still believe"? It's not like it's some baseless theory that's outdated and just a matter of time until people dismiss it. It's a very real thing. Sure, maybe it'll never happen, but it certainly could, only thing preventing it happening right now is the general difficulty of small groups acquiring spare nukes.Scarim Coral said:
And the rest of what you said isn't particularly valid, as it treats the subject as a matter of removing all paper products and increasing electronics production to substitute, when the reality is that computer products are increasing anyways, and many papers exists now merely as a redundancy or are otherwise unnecessary and could be phased out using computers systems that will exist regardless.
Personally, I like the feel of paper in my hands, as I sketch something on a drawing pad or lie in bed with a good book. I don't actually own any eBooks that I don't own in hardcopy first, and I only buy the eBooks so I can take my favorite books with me wherever I go. I'm kind of weird that way.
And for anyone who doubts the usefulness of paper, may I direct your attention to Paper and I?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pt4wC2VYgs
Captcha: Commercial-Free TV. It's a dish advertisement. I've been lucky enough to miss these up until now. My mirth over the woman who repainted a hundred year old painting of Jesus has evaporated now.
And for anyone who doubts the usefulness of paper, may I direct your attention to Paper and I?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pt4wC2VYgs
Captcha: Commercial-Free TV. It's a dish advertisement. I've been lucky enough to miss these up until now. My mirth over the woman who repainted a hundred year old painting of Jesus has evaporated now.
I wish I had sources for you, but I am too tired to find any at the moment: so I'll just mention this and you can consider it anecdotal if you want.
Paper is a good deal more tactile and also tends to have a scent associated it with it. Both these factors aid in memorization when using it, as they involve more of your senses. Reading something on paper that you hold in your hands, or a book whose pages you must turn, is actually superior to reading the same thing on a screen.
Like it or not humans are animals, and the product of our environment and years of evolution, digital technology is great and can do many things very well, but at the end of the day it's often better to have something that you can hold in your hands.
Paper is a good deal more tactile and also tends to have a scent associated it with it. Both these factors aid in memorization when using it, as they involve more of your senses. Reading something on paper that you hold in your hands, or a book whose pages you must turn, is actually superior to reading the same thing on a screen.
Like it or not humans are animals, and the product of our environment and years of evolution, digital technology is great and can do many things very well, but at the end of the day it's often better to have something that you can hold in your hands.