Parents Fight To Use Dead Son?s Sperm To Create Posthumous Grandchild

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newwiseman

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Yeah... uh... I'm normally not one to judge but this is rather... unorthodox.
I like what you did there. Certainly strange, I'm not familiar with Israel's laws but I know that in US the any child conceived in this manner would belong to the mother.

I would say don't allow it and make their asses adopt a kid.
 

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Father Time said:
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Lucie said:
The parents of a deceased 27-year-old man are asking permission to use his sperm for conceiving their grandchild. Their son wasn't married, nor was he in a relationship. But his parents are now hoping to become grandparents of his yet to be conceived child. He died after an accident and went into a coma for two weeks, during this period the parents had his sperm extracted and are now awaiting the decision of Israel's attorney general on whether they'll be permitted to search for a woman to bear their grandchild. "If we were entitled to donate the organs of our son why are we not entitled to make use of his sperm in order to bring offspring to the world?"
They live in Israel, the world capital of in-vitro fertilization and a country that regularly pushes the envelope on reproductive technologies, this means they might actually get permission.

Source: Parents Fight To Use Dead Son's Sperm To Create Posthumous Grandchild [http://uk.jezebel.com/5785683/parents-fight-to-use-dead-sons-sperm-to-create-posthumous-grandchild]
Original article: Parents ask court to allow use of dead son's sperm [http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/parents-ask-court-to-allow-use-of-dead-son-s-sperm-1.341689]


Somehow this just doesn't seem right to me. I have never lost a child so maybe I'm unfit to judge. I could imagine that you are devastated and heartbroken, but a grandchild isn't going to bring him back.
Also on the quote: "If we were entitled to donate the organs of our son why are we not entitled to make use of his sperm in order to bring offspring to the world?". I don't feel that they are the same thing, I mean organ donation is for saving lives, not creating them.

So yeah what do you think? Do parents have any saying on their children's fertility? Should they be allowed to go through with this and get a grandson?
I don't see a problem with it. Also, that is a....unique first post.
Don't discourage him this is one of the most interesting posts I've seen here in a while.
I wasn't. I was just commenting on the weird story and that being his first post.
 

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If they are going to use the grandchild as a replacement for their son, then it is extremely selfish and putting unfair pressure on a child that never asked to be born, and especially under those circumstances. I mean, I am assuming that they are going to attempt to raise the child themselves, so what is going to happen when the child questions them on their parents? I mean what are they going to say? It would in all likelihood leave the child horribly confused and resentful, especially if they construe their grandparents percieved "good intention" as a selfish gesture in carrying on a bloodline. That is assuming the grandparents are going to even be around when the child reaches an age where they can question their parentage, because if they are pushing on in their years then they may be dead before the child reaches puberty and what then? An orphanage? Social services? They may be doing this out of love and grief for their son, but it descends into selfishness if it stands to ruin anothers life.
 

OptimisticPessimist

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Wait...What? Why would anyone want to do that? I mean, sure they should be able to do it, but I'd remind them that the ramifications on any resulting child could be...unpleasent, to say the least. Great first post, dude.
 

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Depends. Did he ever say he wanted kids? Then yes.
He didn't? Then no.

But they should probably have the right to continue their bloodline.

I say: do it, but only if they don't have other kids that can do the above.
 

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Well I think they should be allowed to do it, although I think the situation would be better if he had a gf/wife - someone who was willing to carry out his baby like this...


Also, did anyone else have Begotten flashes? - I know creepy thing to compare to - but still this is quite a creepy situation in itself ...
 

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We live in a society where bloodlines matter..? I thought we ditched that a good while ago...
You'd be surprised; in a lot of places it still matters. Even in western society: Amateur genealogists have declared entire sections of a family tree "not true whoevers" because of an adoption.
 

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
I don't see a problem with it. Also, that is a....unique first post. Welcome to the Escapist! Just watch out for Candlejack. He lives in the bas
Who is this candlejack pers
 

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Lucie said:
Also on the quote: "If we were entitled to donate the organs of our son why are we not entitled to make use of his sperm in order to bring offspring to the world?". I don't feel that they are the same thing, I mean organ donation is for saving lives, not creating them.
This is it completely. HE chose to be a donor, and even if he didn't, his organs were given to help the needy, as a final act of charity. A grandchild helps nobody, and I think it's ridiculous and selfish that they demand he have a child who will never know his father, and whose father never was able to have the child himself. It's pretty fucking horrible, if you ask me.
 

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I think it'd be kinda' hard core to know my father died but I still came into existence anyway. I'd be the next chuck norris or something.

he's dead: why should they give a damn about what he might think?
 

Zhadramekel

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It sounds like they care more about getting a grandchild than they do about their son being dead. If they're that desparate for a youngster in their lives then why don't they adopt. Even if they did get approval to go ahead with their plan, who's going to raise the child: them or whoever conceives the child. And the potential mothers going to be a bit freaked out at the concept of carrying the child of a dead guy she's never met.
 

Ensiferum

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Wow, well as bizarre as it is, I can't say I see anything morally "wrong" with it initially, but it's damn creepy.
 

Screamarie

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I think what should be considerd is if this guy ever stated in his life that he did/did not want children.

Maybe there's a reason why he wasn't married or had a girlfriend, maybe he didn't think he should pass on his genes to another generation for one reason or another. Or maybe he was ecstatic to have kids and was just waiting for the right woman.

Either way though, I do think it's selfish of the parents to do this. They're not doing it to fulfill their son's wishes I doubt, they're doing it to make themselves feel better.
 

Gigano

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Unwanted children are born into cruel fates every day, why should it be controversial that a wanted child is born into a loving family, even if it doesn't have a father?

Such proactive grandparents could surely support a child far better than many who create one while alive.