Parents Fight To Use Dead Son?s Sperm To Create Posthumous Grandchild

[weker]

Also on the quote: "If we were entitled to donate the organs of our son why are we not entitled to make use of his sperm in order to bring offspring to the world?". I don't feel that they are the same thing, I mean organ donation is for saving lives, not creating them.

Well if you look at it from a different perspective by not doing it you are letting possible lives. I agree with them being allowed to do so, they want grandchildren why not? people don't want to let their linage die and they also class it as part of their son I would guess.
in my own personal world all useful organs would be used to save lives regardless of your views, so why improves lives by doing this?

 

[Nannernade]

Imagine that discussion as to why the child has no mother and father only grandparents. ... awkward

 

[Evilsanta]

Who is going to raise the child, and, when he's older, he's gonna find out about this. I mean, its online. He'll probably be covered in the news. It isn't like they'll be able to hide the fact that he was conceived after his[her] father's death.

Think of how he would feel knowing that.

THIS! Honestly how will the kid feel when he grow's up knowing that he's literally the son of a dead man? Seems a bit weird, but honestly the emotional impact it could have on a kid.

Secondly, I know I shouldn't judge, but doesn't it seem a bit selfish that the parents are urging for grandkids even after the son is dead? I know they're probably stricken by his death, but it seems like a lot of pressure to put on someone.

"Well here ya go, you're now pregnant with our dead son"

I mean...it's just weird. The whole consenting mother thing is going to definitely be a problem.

A grandkid isn't going to bring him back and whatever memories they're hoping to revive within him won't do them any good as well.

I'm sorry people but this is a job for the WTF LLAMA:

QFT.


You both toke the words right out of my mouth. I couldn't have written it any better.

OT: What Madara wrote.

 

[Baldry]

I...Well I don't think this is wrong in the slightest and they're entitled to do that...but it is a tad peculiar.

 

[Lucie]

If we were entitled to donate the organs of our son...

Starts and finishes right there. No.

In some countries it isn't necessary to give permission yourself, relatives can decide on it, well on the organ part that is. Sperm donating you don't get to decide on. Besides they aren't really donating his sperm, it isn't anonymously to some stranger.

I don't see what the problem is.

As long as they can find someone willing to birth the baby of a total stranger and then give it up to other total strangers(it happens, lots of money involved though), I don't know why this would even cause an issue.

As long as they have power of attorney, or whatever the relevant counterpart is, I don't really see how anyone has any right to tell them no.

Unless the mother plans to take it on herself and birth some sort of incestuous downs baby, that's obviously not going to fly anywhere.

I doubt they'd put it up for adoption. They want a grandchild and want to stay in contact with it.

Right, I...never said I thought they'd do that. I don't even know what gave that idea, actually.

I'm sorry, I misunderstood the part where you said they would give it up to other total strangers. I didn't realize it was just a general situation. My bad.

 

[Falseprophet]

I'm assuming he didn't give any sort of consent before he died. So I think it boils down to what Israeli law says on the subject. If the next-of-kin are allowed to donate organs on behalf of the deceased without prior consent, then they have a case for the sperm. If they're not normally allowed, I don't think they have a case. My personal feelings on the matter or anyone else's are irrelevant. This wouldn't be the first child fathered by a dead man and is not likely to be the last.

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

its gonna be a bit weird for the kid surely? growing up without a dad would be hard enough but to be conceived after your dad had died? thats a little wierd

 

[BlumiereBleck]

i think that's a consent issue

which he can't give

because he's dead

also its more than a little creepy

prettay much sums up my answer

 

[Zaik]

If we were entitled to donate the organs of our son...

Starts and finishes right there. No.

In some countries it isn't necessary to give permission yourself, relatives can decide on it, well on the organ part that is. Sperm donating you don't get to decide on. Besides they aren't really donating his sperm, it isn't anonymously to some stranger.

I don't see what the problem is.

As long as they can find someone willing to birth the baby of a total stranger and then give it up to other total strangers(it happens, lots of money involved though), I don't know why this would even cause an issue.

As long as they have power of attorney, or whatever the relevant counterpart is, I don't really see how anyone has any right to tell them no.

Unless the mother plans to take it on herself and birth some sort of incestuous downs baby, that's obviously not going to fly anywhere.

I doubt they'd put it up for adoption. They want a grandchild and want to stay in contact with it.

Right, I...never said I thought they'd do that. I don't even know what gave that idea, actually.

I'm sorry, I misunderstood the part where you said they would give it up to other total strangers. I didn't realize it was just a general situation. My bad.

That's fine. I was referring to the need for a surrogate mother who would likely be a total stranger. I know over here in America surrogate mothers aren't too unusual, but far from cheap.

Not really aware of how culture in Israel would affect that though. Might be something publicly frowned upon.

 

[Viivrabe]

Of course they're unorthodox, they're Jewish!

Hmm, well normally if a son dies his belongings will go to his family or as stipulated by the will. The sperm belonged to him, now it doesn't as he is dead, so I suppose it goes to the family.

Which then means they can make the first spawn of a Jewish zombie.

second, you forgot Jesus he already did that come back form the dead thing, and he was a jew

 

[ThreeWords]

For me, the deciding judgement is if I would mind it happening to me. And to be honest, I'd be honored if I was able to give life even after death.

On the flip side, the kid would have no father (unless it were raised by other family members), but there's no moral objections, in my eyes, to the use of his sperm.

 

[DaMan1500]

So, if they actually went through with this, what would they tell the kid? My parents conceived me in vitro, and they gave me a book explaining it when I was in elementary school. Is there some sort of variation of that book for this?

 

[C95J]

dear god there are some strange people in this world...

 

[wammnebu]

that childs going to have wonderful identity issues growing up

 

[Olofelefant]

I don't see a problem with it. Also, that is a....unique first post. Welcome to the Escapist! Just watch out for Candlejack. He lives in the bas

Candlejack doesn't live in th

Incredibly off-topic, but who is Candleja


Seriously though, who is he?

 

[Mistress_Munchies]

The fact that their son didn't have a girlfriend and they'd just be knocking up some random woman who passed their screening test to have their grandchild is what makes this wrong to me. Sure, the woman would have to consent, obviously, but it's still just... It rubs me the wrong way.

Also, there's the whole thing about the son not giving his consent. If he'd donated the sperm before he died, fine. If he'd told his parents they could harvest his sperm and impregnate a woman for him, fine. But if the parents are just doing it out of their own selfish desire for a grandchild, that just seems like they'd be desecrating their son's memory for the sake of their own happiness.