Parents sue Disney over hot nachos

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Firia

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There is no mention of how hot the cheese was. "Scalding" is a relative temperature for some. Of course, if it scarred the kid, it's probably pretty hot. But is it hot like, kept at required temp levels hot? Cause health services require stuff like that to be kept pretty dang hot.

I disapprove of articles that don't give me the full story.
 

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brainless_fps_player said:
Wow.

Well done, America. Well done. We are all super proud of you.
Hey, don't hate. We're number in the many millions. We can't be held accountable for a handful of sue-happy families.
 

SteewpidZombie

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My god if a law saying you could sue for someones stupidity existed, then the majority of people in North America would be getting sued.
 

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SkyeNeko said:
oh god please tell me this is a joke. seriously? next thing you know they'll be suing because coffee is hot... oh wait, they already have.

SOME THINGS ARE HOT. DEAL WITH IT.
We laugh about the hot-coffee suite years later, but I wonder how many people have actually read the full report. That woman that sued had some pretty nasty burns, and it required some vaginal reconstructive surgery (if I remember correctly). It wasn't as simple as "ow, this is some hot ass coffee." It's closer to "ow, I need to go to the ER now because of sever burns."

It just SOUNDS absurd as hell, I know. The mundane, like nacho cheese causing burns. The article makes no mention of the actual temp of the cheese. It may have actually been to hot. On the other hand, it may have been to hot for the face, but just right for health codes. There's to much gray area in the article to pass proper judgment, but we all are anyway, because it sounds so absurd.
 

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Every pizza place in these people's hometown just put up a sign saying "We Reserve The Right To Refuse Service To Anyone" and pictures of mom and dad in the break room under the heading "Warning: These People Should Not Be Served".
 

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Firia said:
We laugh about the hot-coffee suite years later, but I wonder how many people have actually read the full report. That woman that sued had some pretty nasty burns, and it required some vaginal reconstructive surgery (if I remember correctly). It wasn't as simple as "ow, this is some hot ass coffee." It's closer to "ow, I need to go to the ER now because of sever burns."
She held the cup between her knees. She should know that the lid of a cup is not very good at staying on. The area she got burned on are pretty sensitive, and what she was wearing probably absorbed it. I dont go around sticking potentially hot objects between my legs.
 

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SkyeNeko said:
Firia said:
We laugh about the hot-coffee suite years later, but I wonder how many people have actually read the full report. That woman that sued had some pretty nasty burns, and it required some vaginal reconstructive surgery (if I remember correctly). It wasn't as simple as "ow, this is some hot ass coffee." It's closer to "ow, I need to go to the ER now because of sever burns."
She held the cup between her knees. She should know that the lid of a cup is not very good at staying on. The area she got burned on are pretty sensitive, and what she was wearing probably absorbed it. I dont go around sticking potentially hot objects between my legs.
I think you're missing the point. Placement wasn't the issue. The actual temperature, and the level of damage that coffee did far exceeded healthy levels. She could have been holding the coffee (although, with coffee that hot, I'd set it somewhere else too), and it could have [em]melted[/em] through the cup, putting those nasty burns on her hand, forearm, and lap. (And she was in a drive through. Did she have a cup holder? We don't know.)

The point is, it was a hot enough drink to cause real actual harm. We point and laugh because it sounds absurd, but many people don't seem to be concerned with the facts of the story. With this cheese story, it has that same ring of absurdity, but we don't know all the facts (through this article).
 

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brainless_fps_player said:
Firia said:
brainless_fps_player said:
Wow.

Well done, America. Well done. We are all super proud of you.
Hey, don't hate. We're number in the many millions. We can't be held accountable for a handful of sue-happy families.
I'll hate on any nation that allows for flippant money-grabbing legal action to be treated with legitimacy, or even defended by the words on some old scrap of paper toting arbitrary moral values.
Most of the people are fine, but you have a funny sense of justice, a lack of common sense and a tendency to idealize without justification. Also your computers can't spell.

That being said, being Scottish I generalize a lot and like frying things too much.
The thing to remember is that very rarely indeed does anyone actually win these frivolous lawsuits, and when they do it's usually because of legitimate wrongdoing on the part of the company.

Most notable example: The McDonald's coffee lawsuit, held up as Example #1 of stupid American sue-happy culture, was actually a legitimate product safety issue:
http://www.caoc.com/CA/index.cfm?event=showPage&pg=facts
 

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Saucycardog said:
http://www.fox5sandiego.com/news/kswb-hot-nachos,0,7648975.story

Would they have sued if it was too cold?
I think it a bit more than the Seinfeld Coffee scenario.
Look:

I don't know about you but I doubt any normal person could even ingest cheese that hot. Look at those burns man.

Source: http://laist.com/2011/02/13/nacho_lawsuit_parents_sue_disney_ov.php
 

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SkyeNeko said:
She held the cup between her knees. She should know that the lid of a cup is not very good at staying on. The area she got burned on are pretty sensitive, and what she was wearing probably absorbed it. I dont go around sticking potentially hot objects between my legs.
Actually, the teenager working at that place was heating the coffee up far hotter than it should have been, just for giggles. Hot coffee doesn't cause second degree burns, and it did on this woman. That's why that suit went through.
 

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Firia said:
I think you're missing the point. Placement wasn't the issue. The actual temperature, and the level of damage that coffee did far exceeded healthy levels. She could have been holding the coffee (although, with coffee that hot, I'd set it somewhere else too), and it could have [em]melted[/em] through the cup, putting those nasty burns on her hand, forearm, and lap. (And she was in a drive through. Did she have a cup holder? We don't know.)

The point is, it was a hot enough drink to cause real actual harm. We point and laugh because it sounds absurd, but many people don't seem to be concerned with the facts of the story. With this cheese story, it has that same ring of absurdity, but we don't know all the facts (through this article).
The kid had some real bad burns. http://laist.com/2011/02/13/nacho_lawsuit_parents_sue_disney_ov.php look.
 

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brainless_fps_player said:
Firia said:
brainless_fps_player said:
Wow.

Well done, America. Well done. We are all super proud of you.
Hey, don't hate. We're number in the many millions. We can't be held accountable for a handful of sue-happy families.
I'll hate on any nation that allows for flippant money-grabbing legal action to be treated with legitimacy, or even defended by the words on some old scrap of paper toting arbitrary moral values.
Most of the people are fine, but you have a funny sense of justice, a lack of common sense and a tendency to idealize without justification. Also your computers can't spell.

That being said, being Scottish I generalize a lot and like frying things too much.
These people weren't sue happy. The kid got 2nd degree burns from nacho fucking cheese. http://laist.com/2011/02/13/nacho_lawsuit_parents_sue_disney_ov.php

You can not serve someone something that hot. It burned his face and it got on him. Cheese doesn't take that much heat to melt, and if its hot enough to melt human flesh then I think suing is the right thing to do.
 

The_Echo

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Welcome to America, where everyone loses money for everything.

The ratio of dumb to intelligent is astoundingly imbalanced.
 

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Generic Gamer said:
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Please read the article, folks.
The boy sat on a broken chair and flew into the hot cheese. There is actually some liability here, but I am sure (this being america) ther won't be a settlement under six digits.
Which makes it strange.
You know, every so often I'm tempted to post a thread on here with a link. That link will be cited as a source but will actually lead to a completely unrelated story. I'd love to have a ten page thread of people decrying an author's homophobia and have the 'source' as a weather report or something.
I know I would laugh about that. I'll be the first to admit I don't always read the entire article but I try to get the major points at least.
 

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Oh My GOD!!! The poor child. I mean, that is so sad! The kid has to be raised by those dickheads, i mean, parents.
 

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SimuLord said:
brainless_fps_player said:
Firia said:
brainless_fps_player said:
Wow.

Well done, America. Well done. We are all super proud of you.
Hey, don't hate. We're number in the many millions. We can't be held accountable for a handful of sue-happy families.
I'll hate on any nation that allows for flippant money-grabbing legal action to be treated with legitimacy, or even defended by the words on some old scrap of paper toting arbitrary moral values.
Most of the people are fine, but you have a funny sense of justice, a lack of common sense and a tendency to idealize without justification. Also your computers can't spell.

That being said, being Scottish I generalize a lot and like frying things too much.
The thing to remember is that very rarely indeed does anyone actually win these frivolous lawsuits, and when they do it's usually because of legitimate wrongdoing on the part of the company.

Most notable example: The McDonald's coffee lawsuit, held up as Example #1 of stupid American sue-happy culture, was actually a legitimate product safety issue:
http://www.caoc.com/CA/index.cfm?event=showPage&pg=facts
Perhaps, but it is still a phenomenon relatively unique to the States, and it's not a positive one. It's the feeling of entitlement, which is common among spoiled westerners, that I dislike. People don't sue these places out of genuine concern for public welfare, although they claim to. They do it because they can. The customer is always right, which means many feel entitled to forget manners and common sense, nay proudly reject them, in the name of money. My child's face was slightly burnt! I don't care if your more careful next time, I need recompense!
Just strikes me as cheap. Although it makes me happy to learn that most cases fail. I hope the legal fees screw them.
 

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*sniff* *sniff*
I smell parents after the quick cash in. Disney should tell these parents to suck it up and go away.
 

Throwitawaynow

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Broken chair, small child, second degree burns, actual liability. But the comments are nothing but DERP Americans are bad DERP!