Parents sue Disney over hot nachos

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Firia

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Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
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I think you're missing the point. Placement wasn't the issue. The actual temperature, and the level of damage that coffee did far exceeded healthy levels. She could have been holding the coffee (although, with coffee that hot, I'd set it somewhere else too), and it could have [em]melted[/em] through the cup, putting those nasty burns on her hand, forearm, and lap. (And she was in a drive through. Did she have a cup holder? We don't know.)

The point is, it was a hot enough drink to cause real actual harm. We point and laugh because it sounds absurd, but many people don't seem to be concerned with the facts of the story. With this cheese story, it has that same ring of absurdity, but we don't know all the facts (through this article).
The kid had some real bad burns. http://laist.com/2011/02/13/nacho_lawsuit_parents_sue_disney_ov.php look.
Okay, THAT'S pretty bad. I'd try to get them to cover medical cost too.
 

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Firia said:
Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
Firia said:
I think you're missing the point. Placement wasn't the issue. The actual temperature, and the level of damage that coffee did far exceeded healthy levels. She could have been holding the coffee (although, with coffee that hot, I'd set it somewhere else too), and it could have [em]melted[/em] through the cup, putting those nasty burns on her hand, forearm, and lap. (And she was in a drive through. Did she have a cup holder? We don't know.)

The point is, it was a hot enough drink to cause real actual harm. We point and laugh because it sounds absurd, but many people don't seem to be concerned with the facts of the story. With this cheese story, it has that same ring of absurdity, but we don't know all the facts (through this article).
The kid had some real bad burns. http://laist.com/2011/02/13/nacho_lawsuit_parents_sue_disney_ov.php look.
Okay, THAT'S pretty bad. I'd try to get them to cover medical cost too.
Notice how the lovely corporate Fox left out the picture? Fuck those slanderous assholes.
 

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brainless_fps_player said:
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Wow.

Well done, America. Well done. We are all super proud of you.
Hey, don't hate. We're number in the many millions. We can't be held accountable for a handful of sue-happy families.
I'll hate on any nation that allows for flippant money-grabbing legal action to be treated with legitimacy, or even defended by the words on some old scrap of paper toting arbitrary moral values.
Most of the people are fine, but you have a funny sense of justice, a lack of common sense and a tendency to idealize without justification. Also your computers can't spell.

That being said, being Scottish I generalize a lot and like frying things too much.
The thing to remember is that very rarely indeed does anyone actually win these frivolous lawsuits, and when they do it's usually because of legitimate wrongdoing on the part of the company.

Most notable example: The McDonald's coffee lawsuit, held up as Example #1 of stupid American sue-happy culture, was actually a legitimate product safety issue:
http://www.caoc.com/CA/index.cfm?event=showPage&pg=facts
Perhaps, but it is still a phenomenon relatively unique to the States, and it's not a positive one. It's the feeling of entitlement, which is common among spoiled westerners, that I dislike. People don't sue these places out of genuine concern for public welfare, although they claim to. They do it because they can. The customer is always right, which means many feel entitled to forget manners and common sense, nay proudly reject them, in the name of money. My child's face was slightly burnt! I don't care if your more careful next time, I need recompense!
Just strikes me as cheap. Although it makes me happy to learn that most cases fail. I hope the legal fees screw them.
You're judging a nation based on a legal system you think is made up of frivolous legal action? Has it occurred to you that maybe you're only getting pieces of Americana that your local media feels like reporting on, and you're supplementing the rest by assumptions? That link in the quote doesn't look frivolous to me.
 

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SkyeNeko said:
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We laugh about the hot-coffee suite years later, but I wonder how many people have actually read the full report. That woman that sued had some pretty nasty burns, and it required some vaginal reconstructive surgery (if I remember correctly). It wasn't as simple as "ow, this is some hot ass coffee." It's closer to "ow, I need to go to the ER now because of sever burns."
She held the cup between her knees. She should know that the lid of a cup is not very good at staying on. The area she got burned on are pretty sensitive, and what she was wearing probably absorbed it. I dont go around sticking potentially hot objects between my legs.
Luv, that coffee removed skin when it burnt her. Where she put it isn't really relevant. :(
 

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Tirunus said:
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Oh My GOD!!! The poor child. I mean, that is so sad! The kid has to be raised by those dickheads, i mean, parents.
Please my good sir look something up before making such hateful and spiteful comments!

http://laist.com/2011/02/13/nacho_lawsuit_parents_sue_disney_ov.php
I have little respect for people suing major corporations because of an accident. Yes it is unfortunate that a small child should be injured but does that give his parents the right to settle with a six digit figure? Yes Disney should cover the medical expenses but "sever emotional distress?" Come on. It was an accident, maybe the nacho cheese was hot but that doesn't give one the right to try and make a few easy bucks.
 

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endnuen said:
Is that even possible?..
My god.. Are Americans not taught to take responsibility for their own being?
There are idiots in every country in the world. The problem with the United States is that our media, loving sensationalism and the absurd, promotes these wastes of human flesh to the status of pop icon, rather than ignoring them like any sane person should do.

We LOVE the sensational, the salacious and the weird. Why? I don't know.
 

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endnuen said:
Is that even possible?..
My god.. Are Americans not taught to take responsibility for their own being?
Yeah, they should learn from every single other society and community in the whole world. Hopefully god smites all Americans, because they're clearly at fault for all the world's problems.

That they can get away with suing for such a silly reason is pathetic, but it doesn't warrant baseless slander against an entire society.
 

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Generic Gamer said:
Firia said:
I think you're missing the point. Placement wasn't the issue. The actual temperature, and the level of damage that coffee did far exceeded healthy levels. She could have been holding the coffee (although, with coffee that hot, I'd set it somewhere else too), and it could have [em]melted[/em] through the cup, putting those nasty burns on her hand, forearm, and lap. (And she was in a drive through. Did she have a cup holder? We don't know.)

The point is, it was a hot enough drink to cause real actual harm. We point and laugh because it sounds absurd, but many people don't seem to be concerned with the facts of the story. With this cheese story, it has that same ring of absurdity, but we don't know all the facts (through this article).
That's the problem, we go 'lololol, it's supposed to be hot' and all that but we forget that 'hot' is a scale.

Specifically 'hot' is a scale with 'just above external body temperature' at one end and 'centre of a nuclear reaction' at the other. In both the coffee case and this cheese case the temperature was way above what could be safely ingested. In neither case did the person actually attempt to put it in their mouth so I doubt it can be called idiocy.

As that picture proves (and pictures of the coffee incident) the food was so hot it caused real actual injuries, not as in the burn you get in your mouth when you eat pizza too quickly, actual skin-removing burns. The coffee woman needed skin grafts, this child will most likely be scarred for life. In no circumstance should a restaurant serve food at that temperature, it's against basic safety and common sense.
You mention something that crossed my mind at one time; we know the nacho cheese was hot enough to inflict harm because of a article posted above (not the OP's), and the picture that came with it. Did anyone else find it to hot, I wonder? Did others have to give their nachos time to cool before they could eat it. Did someone try, burn their mouth really bad, but never reported it?

All questions I don't expect answered, but would certainly help put things into perspective. Also, since the incident happened almost a year ago (march, I think the article pointed out), how much scaring is left. There's so much left to interpretation that the brain naturally spins this into the realm of absurd. It wouldn't surprise me if this went to court, and whomever was looking over the case notes laughed, and sided with absurdity.

Since its gone public, I'm betting Disney will settle. Which will get the mother the coverage she needs for medical bills. (And that's another thing- what value is she suing for, and how much of what will that cover?)
 

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RamirezDoEverything said:
endnuen said:
Is that even possible?..
My god.. Are Americans not taught to take responsibility for their own being?
HEY. No American hate, plenty of stupid people hail from your hometown, correct?

Yet another ignorant bump on the road of society, when will we see an end to these kinds of lawsuits?
Stupid people =| stupid courts. Unless said people is judges.

When do we hear about a lawsuit where some stupid fool sues the weather forecast for having estimated the UV-levels off a bit, and thus got sunburns for not using lotion?
Or falling on the ice when they believed it to be < 0 degrees celcius?
Or drowning in a puddle of water when they had promised sunshine!

Seriously.. Seriously..

Also, "too hot".. Is it stated anywhere that they cannot keep the cheese at 10000000 degrees? And that the customer just has to frikken wait for it to cool or blow on it before eating?

It's even more stupid with the lady who opened the cup while driving.. Her stupidity made her a danger for every one else on the road.

The lack of common sense in the world is astounding.