Speaking of, I was always amazed at the freak out about ME1's sex scene (which I thought, in terms of the plot and events leading up to it, was appropriately placed, and little more than minor fan service at best), and the now infamous Hot Coffee minigame that was not even part of the released program in GTA San Andreas, when you compare it to something far more overt like the urn-shattering threesome to close out the first chapter of God of War.Sir John the Net Knight said:
Parents Television Council Calls Game Industry "Thugs" and "Bullies"
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And people hate me for wanting to oppress the oppressors.
THIS is one of the many reasons why soccer moms shouldn't be allowed freedom of speech. And indeed many other dickwads in general.
THIS is one of the many reasons why soccer moms shouldn't be allowed freedom of speech. And indeed many other dickwads in general.
You know the Coservative agenda is three steps shy of total 1984 dystopia with a bit of We thrown in for good measure. Or perhaps I'm just expressing anger at a particular patch of lunkheads that populate most of the overgrown blastocysts that make up America's population. I remember the old saying "99% of people in the world are jerks" well I guess if you mean just the voting population and things get worse when it degrades to name calling and verbal slap fights like its the playground in 2nd grade.
Sorry, I had point here somewhere...oh right, people can be royally stupid sometimes and its best to just squirt them with a water bottle and say "bad dog" than to get all screamy, they don't understand as well as we do.
/flameshield on 100%
Sorry, I had point here somewhere...oh right, people can be royally stupid sometimes and its best to just squirt them with a water bottle and say "bad dog" than to get all screamy, they don't understand as well as we do.
/flameshield on 100%
PTC is actually part of a coalition of Conservative political action groups (it's governing institution called Media Research Center) funded by large corporations such as Exxon Mobil and political action groups. Critics of the group often indicate the use of misleading information that draws conclusions based on "selected data" to spin an issue their way.
Check out information on the Media Research Center on Wikipedia and it's founder L. Brent Bozell III. If you see as much money in a lifetime as MRC spends in a year I'm surprised you're even reading this.
Check out information on the Media Research Center on Wikipedia and it's founder L. Brent Bozell III. If you see as much money in a lifetime as MRC spends in a year I'm surprised you're even reading this.
The issue I'm seeing here is the boycotting. The second the PTC thinks that something isn't good for the children, they resort to boycott. Your duty as a parent is not to remove your child from the exposure of everything that could possibly harm him/her because THAT will cause more harm than anything later on.
If a child is not exposed to something he/she will not know how to deal with that thing. Isn't it better to have them deal with problems while they are still young and under your guidance than when they've moved out and must tackle something difficult alone?
Exposure may seem like a bad idea in the immediate situation, but in the long run can avoid a lot of issues.
I'm not saying to expose them to brutality and graphic violence at a constant rate, but don't get mad if they happen to see some and then go on a self-righteous crusade against whoever exposed them. Instead, explain to them why violence is bad and let them think for themselves on how they can choose to deal with it in the future.
To do the opposite is to mentally castrate your own child.
And for those of you who think sex is such a terrible thing to expose kids to, I just want to point out that it's perfectly natural and healthy to have sex, and by NOT exposing our kids we are giving them the impression that it's taboo. This will make them such terrible and cold lovers. Trust me, go out with a person who had overly catholic parents and you'll know the truth of this. They seem to think that the human body is repulsive (I'm guessing) and that being nude is the wrongest thing next to insulting the damn Pope!
If a child is not exposed to something he/she will not know how to deal with that thing. Isn't it better to have them deal with problems while they are still young and under your guidance than when they've moved out and must tackle something difficult alone?
Exposure may seem like a bad idea in the immediate situation, but in the long run can avoid a lot of issues.
I'm not saying to expose them to brutality and graphic violence at a constant rate, but don't get mad if they happen to see some and then go on a self-righteous crusade against whoever exposed them. Instead, explain to them why violence is bad and let them think for themselves on how they can choose to deal with it in the future.
To do the opposite is to mentally castrate your own child.
And for those of you who think sex is such a terrible thing to expose kids to, I just want to point out that it's perfectly natural and healthy to have sex, and by NOT exposing our kids we are giving them the impression that it's taboo. This will make them such terrible and cold lovers. Trust me, go out with a person who had overly catholic parents and you'll know the truth of this. They seem to think that the human body is repulsive (I'm guessing) and that being nude is the wrongest thing next to insulting the damn Pope!
The PTC are idiots and dinosaurs. Another ten years, fifteen at best, their ideas and complaints will be seen, at best, the way people look back on claims that Elvis would 'corrupt the youth'; idiotic, short-sighted comments made by people brutally behind the times.
How does the 'half truth' come into it? And isn't it a little extreme to consider sending broken controllers 'hate mail'? This is not intimidation. This is public protest. I'm sure everyone put their name and address on those letters.
WE ARE NOT THREATENING YOU, SENATOR YEE. WE ARE MARKING OUR PRESENCE AND DISPLEASURE AT YOUR IMPOSITION UPON US.
These people are just as bad as they describe us as being.
WE ARE NOT THREATENING YOU, SENATOR YEE. WE ARE MARKING OUR PRESENCE AND DISPLEASURE AT YOUR IMPOSITION UPON US.
These people are just as bad as they describe us as being.
Must...resist...urge...to slam head into desk.
Damn it, why don't they understand? If a game is rated E for Everyone, then it is marketed as such. A game rated M for Mature will not be marketed to children. Want to know why kids get their hands on games like that? Because their parents do not pay attention. Educate the parents on the rating system, because that is the problem. A lack of education. Hell, we even tell you the content on the back! Don't these parents even bother to read?
Another thing that is wrecking my brain; How in the world is "I support the First Amendment" hate mail? They are expressing their opinion on the matter, yes, but I sure as hell don't see any hate in the message. They are just telling Yee that they disagree with him. It is perfectly possible to do so with no hate whatsoever.
The level of stupidity over at the PTC astounds me.
Damn it, why don't they understand? If a game is rated E for Everyone, then it is marketed as such. A game rated M for Mature will not be marketed to children. Want to know why kids get their hands on games like that? Because their parents do not pay attention. Educate the parents on the rating system, because that is the problem. A lack of education. Hell, we even tell you the content on the back! Don't these parents even bother to read?
Another thing that is wrecking my brain; How in the world is "I support the First Amendment" hate mail? They are expressing their opinion on the matter, yes, but I sure as hell don't see any hate in the message. They are just telling Yee that they disagree with him. It is perfectly possible to do so with no hate whatsoever.
The level of stupidity over at the PTC astounds me.
Oh for fuck's sake.
Really, I won't argue here. These people are never going to see games in the way we see games- they're like Quakers in the 1600s! Gosh, that's ridiculous.
Yes, the industry is corrupt, but not because of what it churns out.
There's so much executive meddling and bribery that you can hear the cash machine "cha-ching!" as you read the reviews. To be honest though, these people are sheer dicks, wanking all reason away and leaving only idiosyncracy behind them. Still, they don't play games, we do.
I'm out of here anyway.
Really, I won't argue here. These people are never going to see games in the way we see games- they're like Quakers in the 1600s! Gosh, that's ridiculous.
Yes, the industry is corrupt, but not because of what it churns out.
There's so much executive meddling and bribery that you can hear the cash machine "cha-ching!" as you read the reviews. To be honest though, these people are sheer dicks, wanking all reason away and leaving only idiosyncracy behind them. Still, they don't play games, we do.
I'm out of here anyway.
So I might get flamed for not totally opposing the new law but here it goes anyway.
I don't think most people really seem to understand what the law actually does. What it does is make the sale of mature rated games to minors illegal. That means that if parents want, they can still decide to purchase the game for their children, it's just that the children can no longer buy the games for themselves. As far as that goes, it doesn't really seem too unreasonable to me.
For some retailers, it won't change anything. If I recall correctly, Walmart, Gamestop, and Best Buy already don't sell mature games to minors.
What I think is FAR more unreasonable is how video games are singled out. I mean come on, all R-rated movies are ok without exception, but all mature rated ones are unacceptable? In the words of Graham Stark:
Basically, I think it's BS that video games are being held to a different standard than any other medium.
I don't think most people really seem to understand what the law actually does. What it does is make the sale of mature rated games to minors illegal. That means that if parents want, they can still decide to purchase the game for their children, it's just that the children can no longer buy the games for themselves. As far as that goes, it doesn't really seem too unreasonable to me.
For some retailers, it won't change anything. If I recall correctly, Walmart, Gamestop, and Best Buy already don't sell mature games to minors.
What I think is FAR more unreasonable is how video games are singled out. I mean come on, all R-rated movies are ok without exception, but all mature rated ones are unacceptable? In the words of Graham Stark:
I mean come on, is Perfect Dark really worse than Inglorious Bastards or Basement Jack (extremely violent slasher flick).
Basically, I think it's BS that video games are being held to a different standard than any other medium.
I hate this shit.
When i was a kid my parents let me watch anyting i want exept porn and guess what... i watched james bond, i watched indianna jones and many movies with sex and violence and i didn't affect me negatively at all. Parents have to fuckin trust their kids a bit. They are not morons, if something is too scary for them they wonts watch it, if something is disturbing they'll just switch channel. You dont have to fuckin BAN everything
When i was a kid my parents let me watch anyting i want exept porn and guess what... i watched james bond, i watched indianna jones and many movies with sex and violence and i didn't affect me negatively at all. Parents have to fuckin trust their kids a bit. They are not morons, if something is too scary for them they wonts watch it, if something is disturbing they'll just switch channel. You dont have to fuckin BAN everything
WTF is wrong with these people?
Is it really that hard to read the rating on a game? Parents shape the fuck up!
Sometimes i think that some parents and people are idiots...Because when i was looking for a game in a gamestore this mom come up to me and asked if Dead Space was a good game for her 10 year old...Really? You didnt see the 18+ there in the corner? I did recommend a more kid friendly game though.
Is it really that hard to read the rating on a game? Parents shape the fuck up!
Sometimes i think that some parents and people are idiots...Because when i was looking for a game in a gamestore this mom come up to me and asked if Dead Space was a good game for her 10 year old...Really? You didnt see the 18+ there in the corner? I did recommend a more kid friendly game though.
