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Do you really want to cough up another 800+$ for a gaming pc when you're still paying of for the laptop?
It doesn't sound like a proper investment to me and maybe you really should consider maybe a console?
Advantages:
*It's cheaper than a gaming pc and plays just as well (unless you don't have a decent tv, in which case, yeah.. get one! :0 )
*You can use the money you have left to instantly pay off your debt for the laptop and maybe have some left for games.
*You already have your computer needs with the laptop and you seem fond of it.
*Buying a pc for the thrill of putting it together is hardly worth it. It's not rocket science and doesn't come with achievements. Unless the "upgrades burned a whole in my wallet" one which will come sooner rather than later.

Food for thought I hope.
 

NOHC

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Build one.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/modding/2009/04/07/commodore-64-laptop-mod/1

 

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DeadlyYellow said:
All that processing power needed for a game will play hell on the battery.
Interesting pount: I never even thought of the power requirements.

A harder processor means more power drainage, means I need a better power supply, means more to replace/upgrade/spend money on.

I'm not sure anymore that this upgrade for my laptop will even cost much less than the Rig...and obviously the main reason I was going to upgrade rather than build was for the money.

The way I see it at the moment: IF the upgrade comes within £400 of the Rig's price, it will not be worth the money. So...my max upgrade budget is £400. I will do my research quickly.
 

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jonnopon3000 said:
To answer your questions:

I plan to use it as my main gaming platform, as I do now.
Mobility is only important in convenience-but if performance is greatly sacrificed for mobility, then it is not that important to me.
There is nothing i need to spend money on except this at the moment. I wouldn't consider the upgrade otherwise.
I believe a desktop to be more flexible in terms of troubleshooting, compatability and customizing, so I think your last question is irrelevant.
It seems then by all means a high spec Desktop PC is your best option. And you always have your laptop for any mobile needs. In that case I'd recommend use of an external HDD for anything you may want to use on both PCs (songs, videos, low spec games) and you end up with the best of both worlds!
 

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Mezzamine said:
corroded said:
Well, the desktop PC will run decent games, properly. Laptops should be used for only one thing, mobile usage.

I'm still of the opinion a gaming laptop doesn't properly exist.
I resent that! I have a Dell XPS M1530, and it can run Crysis on low/medium settings.
I have the same one :D
it's awesome, mine can run Fallout 3 on high, although I have minimum RAM, I am going to upgrade it soon.

OT: laptops are a good choice when you are mobile for school or work, I have my laptop for school, and I can play games on it.
 

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All I thought about when buying my pc was if it would be able to play Diablo III.
You should too.

Edit: lots of typ-o's there!
 

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Aunel said:
Mezzamine said:
corroded said:
Well, the desktop PC will run decent games, properly. Laptops should be used for only one thing, mobile usage.

I'm still of the opinion a gaming laptop doesn't properly exist.
I resent that! I have a Dell XPS M1530, and it can run Crysis on low/medium settings.
I have the same one :D
it's awesome, mine can run Fallout 3 on high, although I have minimum RAM, I am going to upgrade it soon.

OT: laptops are a good choice when you are mobile for school or work, I have my laptop for school, and I can play games on it.
Yeah, that's the same reason I have mine. So much easier, especially since don't go home until the weekend.
 

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The King And His Fool said:
Ok response time.

I am avidly a PC gamer. Everytime I consider a console, my mind just instantly lists the many many extras and advantages you get with a PC. I just can't bring myself to give up PC gaming.

And to your point that I have still money to pay off on my laptop: That will be done within 2 months. It has to be otherwise my mother gets landed with debt and a fucking half.

She has agreed that after this, I am free to do what I like with my 'top, whether thats upgrade, modding or selling.
And I can continue working for real cash in my hand to go towards whatever decision I make.

The money is sorted.

Individual points need to be addressed here...you were right...food for thought and a half.

The King And His Fool said:
*You can use the money you have left to instantly pay off your debt for the laptop and maybe have some left for games.
*You already have your computer needs with the laptop and you seem fond of it.
The laptop, as i mentioned, is effectively payed off. You seem to be under the impression I already have the money. It will take me a few months to get this together, so there is no thought of what I will have left over yet as the price of the Rig or the upgrade will most definately change over time.

"you alread have your computer needs with the laptop"...I don't like this statement. I wouldn't be considering any of this if I thought this too. I want a gaming machine, a proper one, and the Rig or an upgrade offers this. I do not want a console, so these are my only choices.

I am beginning to see in my own writing that my decision seems to be made: Unless someone manages to completely turn my mind around, I am going with the Rig.

And your last statement about the upgrade: I know how you mean. I see the same thing with Gmod-I need the hard drive space but that upgrade was so cool!
But I have always been told and believe myself to be sensible with money. I don't waste it on impulse buys. If I upgrade it will be a well thought-of decision, plus it will take a while to get any money together for any upgrade so I will have time to think.
 

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John-Joe said:
All I thought about when buying my pc was if it would be able to play Diablo III.
You should too.

Edit: lots of typ-o's there!
Lol. I have never played, or considered playing, or watched a review of, or seen someone play, or seen a walkthrough of, or seen adverts or, or cared, about the title Diablo III.

I don't know why I am instantly not liking this game despite having not done any of these things-I think i don't like the title itself. Oh well.

Plus, not very On Topic.
 

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Mezzamine said:
corroded said:
Well, the desktop PC will run decent games, properly. Laptops should be used for only one thing, mobile usage.

I'm still of the opinion a gaming laptop doesn't properly exist.
I resent that! I have a Dell XPS M1530, and it can run Crysis on low/medium settings.
A friend of mine got a £1500 XPS not too long ago, running Crysis on high all the way, with some tweaking (Stuff that we didn't notice that much, post processing and the like, was turned down a little).

Which was pretty similar to my Desktop worth less than half that.
 

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I used to say there is no such thing as a gaming laptop until my brother bought an I Buy Power Battalion notebook.
 

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wordsmith said:
Get a Desky and a Cheapo laptop. I used my laptop for the last 2 years of school, I did my last exam 3 months ago and haven't looked at it since (it takes AAAAGES to load up. Like... years). My Desktop on the other hand, I paid £600 for the parts (a total overhaul including a new OS and a 1Tb external hard-drive) at easter, best money I've ever spent. The only problem is, I don't think I can upgrade to an i7, and I'm running a Duo at the moment (the model slips my mind at the moment... an e8400 I *think*). My next upgrade is to a Quad, but that's not for a while yet.
No, God damned Intel made it to where you have to have a new motherboard with a X58 north bridge chip set. Those bastards!

OT: I built my desktop and I couldn't be happier. Oh, and you don't have to go with Nvidia, know that ATI is also a very good option, if I was running crossfire it would be overkill.


era81 said:
I used to say there is no such thing as a gaming laptop until my brother bought an I Buy Power Battalion notebook.
I was going to buy my desktop from them. They are actually very good for gaming, probably the best at what they do right after Digital Storm.
 

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jonnopon3000 said:
John-Joe said:
I say something stupid
You then tell me I'm stupid and off-topic, which is true.
Sorry, I was just recomending the stationary, since it's (probably) able to run whatever new and exciting games, that will come out in the future.
 

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I'd say if you are happy with your computer at the minute and can play some decent games wait till you have as much money as you can save and build a whole rig. thats what I'm in the middle of doing. There are some cross over parts in your computer that you can use in your old computer before switching them to your new computer. Building a custom rig is much better than just upgrading your parts. Keep in mind Intel i7's run off a different type of mother board to say a Intel core 2 quad. A core 2 quad uses LGA 775 Socket for the cpu size, where a I7 use LGA 1366.

Here is my old computer

CPU:3.4 duel core
Motherboard: asrock 755 old mother board
Graphics card: nividia geforce 7300le 128mb
Ram: 1gb 667mhz
Hard drive: 250Gb
Case: small back one
Power unit: 450watt


Here is my new computer (* marks the parts that I was able to use with my old computer till i had everything else together)

CPU:I7 3.0ghz
Motherboard: EVGA X58 3xSLI CLASSIFIED, Socket-1366
Graphics card: nividia evga gtx 285 ftw *(once i get money ill have three gtx 285 and one gt9800 for physics)
Ram: 6gb 1600mhz
Hard drive: 1TB*
Power unit: 1000 watt*
Case: Antec 1200*

How the parts I'm waiting on is the Cpu, motherboard and ram there was no point in getting them till i could get all three together because they can't run on my old mother board.

If you are finding gaming a serious part of want your interested in build a rig. you won't need every part I have because I'm going all out on my computer. I suggest the cheapest i7 a good mother board the ram needs to be fast to get the most out of games but spend a good part of your money on the graphics card because this is very important. Don't forget a powerful Power unit to run everything off. For 1000 pounds you could get good computer that can even run crysis on full settings.
 

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well i know with laptops you can upgrade the ram, i'm not so sure about the cpu, there are some models you can but as a general rule they are actually attached to the mobo

i'm going to say the desktop is your best route
 

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Kirix said:
Yeh your point seems totally invalid. I do not have a computer to take parts from. I have a laptop. As far as my research goes, no parts from my laptop can be placed in a desktop motherboard.

Plus I don't need spec reccommendations, or part info-I have PC gamer's Rig guide every month for that.

But thanks for writing so much...a nice thought.

Lol only just noticed that you reccommended I buy the entire thing at once, not in stages.

I agree totally with you-in my view, I buy say the motherboard, then a month later i am atill not in possession of the entire thing, then the rig gets a major improvement that's not compatable with the MoBo I bought. I will be crushed by advancements.

So I wait till i have near £1000, then get the latest issue of PG Gamer and build the rig that is in there, assuring that I have the latest tech and nothing escapes me! I win
 

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jonnopon3000 said:
Kirix said:
Yeh your point seems totally invalid. I do not have a computer to take parts from. I have a laptop. As far as my research goes, no parts from my laptop can be placed in a desktop motherboard.

Plus I don't need spec reccommendations, or part info-I have PC gamer's Rig guide every month for that.

But thanks for writing so much...a nice thought.

Lol only just noticed that you reccommended I buy the entire thing at once, not in stages.

I agree totally with you-in my view, I buy say the motherboard, then a month later i am atill not in possession of the entire thing, then the rig gets a major improvement that's not compatable with the MoBo I bought. I will be crushed by advancements.

So I wait till i have near £1000, then get the latest issue of PG Gamer and build the rig that is in there, assuring that I have the latest tech and nothing escapes me! I win
Ok forget the bit about the laptop and let me know what parts you buy when your get it. I'd be interested to see what you get for 1000