People are to poor to afford a good PC so they just talk shit on it... and that's coming from a console gamer who can't afford a good PC.
PC Game Bashing
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I know that people continually bash up PC gaming because you have to continueosly upgrade your rig but this recently occured to me... If you were to have a dual core processor and a nvidia 9600 gt card NOW (which is only 150 dollars. A steal in my opinion) are you happy with your graphics? Yes. Now, even if in the future you dont upgrade your rig and continue buying the new games will the graphics still be very good even if you will have to downgrade them slightly because of future standards? Yes.
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Ok, a few points I'd like to state:
1. Console gaming is simpler to do. PC requires some minor technical knowledge to operate properly. However, said technical knowledge can be acquired in a few months of using a PC and will last you years.
2. Consoles are not cheaper, however it's again a matter of "simpler". You can spend a ton of money and end up with a crap PC. However, you can spend little money and get a solid gaming rig that'll last you for years to come. Again, this requires some minor technical knowledge.
3. PC has the advantage of being a more versatile tool in general (beyond gaming and watching moveis), however to use these features to a satisfactory extent some knowledge is required.
4. PC maintenance (drivers and such) has been overstated by some people in this thread. PC users don't need to go through an hour-long ritual every time they fire up their computer just to play a game. Most of the time booting up my PC and starting a game takes less than a minute. Some occasional maintenance is required, but that's fairly simple to do for the most part.
5. Upgrading is not as mandatory as some people state. In fact, thanks to the shift towards consoles very few games nowdays will go above and beyond what consoles can do. System requirements are basically "frozen" until the next console generation. Sure, you CAN upgrade, but you don't have to.
6. Consoles suffer less crap from their games. Since console hardware is universal, games are guaranteed to work. With the PC, there can occasionally be compatibility problems. However, this is usually due to poor maintenance. Also, consoles don't have DRM dramas, but they have Region locking.
Overall, my stance is this: If you just want to game, get a console. If you plan on doing anything more, you might as well just get a PC.
1. Console gaming is simpler to do. PC requires some minor technical knowledge to operate properly. However, said technical knowledge can be acquired in a few months of using a PC and will last you years.
2. Consoles are not cheaper, however it's again a matter of "simpler". You can spend a ton of money and end up with a crap PC. However, you can spend little money and get a solid gaming rig that'll last you for years to come. Again, this requires some minor technical knowledge.
3. PC has the advantage of being a more versatile tool in general (beyond gaming and watching moveis), however to use these features to a satisfactory extent some knowledge is required.
4. PC maintenance (drivers and such) has been overstated by some people in this thread. PC users don't need to go through an hour-long ritual every time they fire up their computer just to play a game. Most of the time booting up my PC and starting a game takes less than a minute. Some occasional maintenance is required, but that's fairly simple to do for the most part.
5. Upgrading is not as mandatory as some people state. In fact, thanks to the shift towards consoles very few games nowdays will go above and beyond what consoles can do. System requirements are basically "frozen" until the next console generation. Sure, you CAN upgrade, but you don't have to.
6. Consoles suffer less crap from their games. Since console hardware is universal, games are guaranteed to work. With the PC, there can occasionally be compatibility problems. However, this is usually due to poor maintenance. Also, consoles don't have DRM dramas, but they have Region locking.
Overall, my stance is this: If you just want to game, get a console. If you plan on doing anything more, you might as well just get a PC.
PCs can be tough if your not playing games from the right time period. if i want to play arena on my current computer, i have to snag a DOS emulator. if i want to install civ4, im going to have to run the INSTALLER in compatability mode for XP. on my last computer, oblivion had to be set to the absolute lowest graphics, and if i had had just a slightly less shiny card, it would have been unplayable, thats the appeal of console games. that and the fact that gamepads fit WAY better for platforming gameplay, and are the default on consoles, an extra thing for PCs.
That was the point, it's the developers, but hand in hand with gaming comes the dev's. You can't have gaming without them, and if the Dev's don't cater to you. Your kinda getting a rough deal here.
Games shouldn't be broken in the first place. Patches or no Patches.
But right now. Were not. When I play WoW, I play it without the disk in the machine. When I play any other PC game, I do it without a disk in the machine. This is impossible on the 360, PS3, and Wii. As the units themselves don't allow proper installation, and the closest you can get, is storing data on the HDD to make load times faster. Call it a flaw if you must, but it saves us from DRM.
I don't remember accepting to a End User Lisence Agreement on Halo 1, and Halo 2 on the Xbox, why on the PC? Same goes for Fallout 3, Saints Row 2, and CoD4.
Graphics =/= Good game
Better Controls? Unless theres a extra button or 2 on the PC port, then that argument is invalid.
Better mods? But us Consoles don't have Mods.
Better support? Yeah, well when the next time my Halo 3 breaks down and I get Error Code ~12238683 I'll let you know.
Customisation? Please elaborate, because I find myself wanting to use the "If it aint broke, don't fix it" line.
and better settings? Say what? How can a game have better settings, when compared with it's port? Unless your talking about Graphic settings, then theres no settings to compare.
That's quite alright, I like playing on my still stable 5 year old technology that gives me a visual orgasm I can settle with, and still continue to enjoy day in day out. You enjoy working harder and harder for your orgasm every few months.
One thing that will beat everything you've said. I can lay down to play 100% of my video games on a Sofa. Enjoy sitting at your desk with keyboard at hand, and Mouse on pad.
Games shouldn't be broken in the first place. Patches or no Patches.
But right now. Were not. When I play WoW, I play it without the disk in the machine. When I play any other PC game, I do it without a disk in the machine. This is impossible on the 360, PS3, and Wii. As the units themselves don't allow proper installation, and the closest you can get, is storing data on the HDD to make load times faster. Call it a flaw if you must, but it saves us from DRM.
I don't remember accepting to a End User Lisence Agreement on Halo 1, and Halo 2 on the Xbox, why on the PC? Same goes for Fallout 3, Saints Row 2, and CoD4.
Graphics =/= Good game
Better Controls? Unless theres a extra button or 2 on the PC port, then that argument is invalid.
Better mods? But us Consoles don't have Mods.
Better support? Yeah, well when the next time my Halo 3 breaks down and I get Error Code ~12238683 I'll let you know.
Customisation? Please elaborate, because I find myself wanting to use the "If it aint broke, don't fix it" line.
and better settings? Say what? How can a game have better settings, when compared with it's port? Unless your talking about Graphic settings, then theres no settings to compare.
That's quite alright, I like playing on my still stable 5 year old technology that gives me a visual orgasm I can settle with, and still continue to enjoy day in day out. You enjoy working harder and harder for your orgasm every few months.
One thing that will beat everything you've said. I can lay down to play 100% of my video games on a Sofa. Enjoy sitting at your desk with keyboard at hand, and Mouse on pad.
I used to be a quite serious PC-gamer right up until this generation of consoles, I build my own computer and such, but most PC-games that comes out these days are so poorly optimised for my rig, which is the whole problem, a game these days needs to work on everyones computers, which can be pretty much whatever. I also got tired of getting it up the ass by DRM-crazy publishers "renting" me my games. I will pay the extra $10 for a fully optimised, install and tweaking-till-I-cry free and (usually) debugged Xbox 360 title that I can share with my friends more than the 3/5/10 times that a PC-title "offers".
That being said, there are still several games that I would never play on anything but my computer, more "hardcore shooters" and sims like Swat4/Rainbow 6 (the older ones), ARMA/OFP, IL2 Sturmovik etc.
I guess I have grown weary of just the hassle of PC-gaming, I definitely don't think that the PC is dead as a platform though, which some people fear or hope for.
That being said, there are still several games that I would never play on anything but my computer, more "hardcore shooters" and sims like Swat4/Rainbow 6 (the older ones), ARMA/OFP, IL2 Sturmovik etc.
I guess I have grown weary of just the hassle of PC-gaming, I definitely don't think that the PC is dead as a platform though, which some people fear or hope for.