For me it's very simple. An analog controller will never be nearly as fun for me in a 1st person shooter as a laser mouse. This issue has gotten better over time, but seeing as all its trying to do is catch up to the function I already have on my PC, I don't really see myself wanting a 360 over my PC.
Pc Gaming Dying????
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the problem is, an off the shelf pc could crap better then the n64, and that was an off the shelf pc back then, in 1996 ( im old ).
but then they updated the hardware, and from the gc/ps2 era - now, the graphics have matched/totalyomgwtf out done alot of pc graphics. putting people like me in a position where i say,
"do i go out and buy a whole new desktop ( i have a laptop thats been fine for civ 4, and sims2), or do i buy a console, witch would be easer, and then be set for now.
now, i will never buy a rts, or a turn-based game on a console, but i have no objection to playing smax, or civ4 ( although smax dosent work on my computers anymore and suport droped faster then britney spears baby after release),
its not that the industry as a whole is dieing, but parts of it are. because people now have consoles that are pcs, what pcs need to do is find there nitch, they need to become, said 'pop-cap games' not these power games where only power gamers will/can play. they need to create games that off the shelff pcs can play.
but then they updated the hardware, and from the gc/ps2 era - now, the graphics have matched/totalyomgwtf out done alot of pc graphics. putting people like me in a position where i say,
"do i go out and buy a whole new desktop ( i have a laptop thats been fine for civ 4, and sims2), or do i buy a console, witch would be easer, and then be set for now.
now, i will never buy a rts, or a turn-based game on a console, but i have no objection to playing smax, or civ4 ( although smax dosent work on my computers anymore and suport droped faster then britney spears baby after release),
its not that the industry as a whole is dieing, but parts of it are. because people now have consoles that are pcs, what pcs need to do is find there nitch, they need to become, said 'pop-cap games' not these power games where only power gamers will/can play. they need to create games that off the shelff pcs can play.
Ahem.
Spore.
Thank you.
Okay, let me expand on that. Spore is going to be a PC only title, and is the next big step in Gaming; a game that is impossible to complete 100%. Now, this will bring hundreds flocking back to the PC. While big things such as Fallout 3 or Gears Of War II may deal a massive blow to the PC gamer race, just think, WE HAVE SPORE! Well, it simply cannot be beaten. Seriously.
Spore.
Thank you.
Okay, let me expand on that. Spore is going to be a PC only title, and is the next big step in Gaming; a game that is impossible to complete 100%. Now, this will bring hundreds flocking back to the PC. While big things such as Fallout 3 or Gears Of War II may deal a massive blow to the PC gamer race, just think, WE HAVE SPORE! Well, it simply cannot be beaten. Seriously.
spore will be on consoles as well, it will be on x360, i dont know about ps3, the wii, and nds.
but will write has (kinda), the right idea, like i said in an earlier post, the computer i bought over 4 years ago, and have not updated, hardware wise scence, will be more then adiquit to run spore.
but will write has (kinda), the right idea, like i said in an earlier post, the computer i bought over 4 years ago, and have not updated, hardware wise scence, will be more then adiquit to run spore.
Mainly a rumour about the Xbox 360, there WILL be a Wii version, and the DS and Mobile versions are merely spinoffs.Leorex said:
i used to love pc gaming. for years the best games came out only for the pc. people with 386 or 486 comps, the first pentiums, all through the 90s, had the best games. but as the computers gained in power faster and faster i found it hard to keep up. with the rise of the n64, ps1 i started to switch more and more to the consoles. it was eaiser to find more games and cheaper as well. i didnt have to upgrade my pc as much. its been at least five years since i bought my last pc game
I don't see why everyone just accepts it as fact that keyboard/mouse support isn't ever going to come to consoles.
That's a totally artificial barrier between PCs and consoles, and it's pretty much the only thing holding certain genres back from making the jump.
That's a totally artificial barrier between PCs and consoles, and it's pretty much the only thing holding certain genres back from making the jump.
I bet you could build that beast yourself for half the price.shatnershaman said:
but seriously, that's one of the best of the best, like a "damn, I can't believe this exists", top of the tech tree.
Don't even look at those if you aren't wiping your ass with baby seal fur. Although one thing is for certain, that PC will last you for like, 2 generations.
im going to convert the prices into american, just because its outragous, not that i think your lieingDexter111 said:
Case: Antec Three Hundred = $62.06
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 = $217.21
MoBo: ASUS P5K-series (like P5KC with Intel Chipset) = $124.12
GFX: ASUS EN8800GT = $232.73
RAM: Corsair 4GB PC2-6400 (800Mhz) CL4 = $124.12
Powersupply: Enermax Liberty 500W = $124.12
HDD: Western Digital 250GB = $62.06
= $946.42
If you don?t already have a monitor and want to add a 22? with 1680x1050 = $310.30
Additional stuff like keyboard, DVD-drive, mouse = $77.58
A PS3 costs $620.60-$775.75 here depending on where/which you buy
A XboX360 costs around $418.91
A good 720p 32"+ TV starts at $698.18+
actualy the prices arnt as bad as i thought.
Look I?m guessing this is one of those typical forums where people take turns and spread their delicious hatred about so and so like a hybrid bukkake.. conspiracy but the PC myth's are true, as technology has no for see able end to what it can accomplish it comes with a great price tag, as consoles are released in simultaneous gaps of 5 years each bearing a reasonable lump sum retail and their own unique brand of game.. PC's are a painstaking huddled together mass of bug's glitches and poor programming each released in small doses of new hardware equals new software equalling new advertisement protocol equalling more assholes spreading victory Trojans fortifying the rage that is popups and simultaneous computer meltdown's.. Followed by the immediate ridicule of family members
BUT the plus side is, PC's will always be around and like most people on this forum point to on this forum has been read and accredited; for as long as there are PC's there will be companies dedicated to its constant expensive painstaking upgrading and updating in the game play market.. now what the doomsayers had left out was that the most popular usage of the PC in gaming are FPS and RTS, TBS, MMORPG and considering internet provider, free access rather than the 360's approach hiss hiss.. YOU cannot produce these genre's for gaming consoles as Yatzee has clearly stated console games lack depth and furthermore the idea of playing say C&C 3 in a Xbox format was laughable at best, strategy gamers need a PC or at least the keyboard and mouse which yes can be bought and have been compatible with some consoles but all lack the greatness that is a PC with its many MANY flaw's but with its reassuring perks and easy day to day use and more so awesomeness in the front of other features aside from gaming we dearly rely on
Oh and DExter those are some awesome prices the currency transfer rate in $ to £ are 2:1, those are piss cheap considering what I have forked out for... christ it cost me in translation $100 for simply 1GB of Ram never mind fecking 43 pound!... I WANT THAT CPU!
BUT the plus side is, PC's will always be around and like most people on this forum point to on this forum has been read and accredited; for as long as there are PC's there will be companies dedicated to its constant expensive painstaking upgrading and updating in the game play market.. now what the doomsayers had left out was that the most popular usage of the PC in gaming are FPS and RTS, TBS, MMORPG and considering internet provider, free access rather than the 360's approach hiss hiss.. YOU cannot produce these genre's for gaming consoles as Yatzee has clearly stated console games lack depth and furthermore the idea of playing say C&C 3 in a Xbox format was laughable at best, strategy gamers need a PC or at least the keyboard and mouse which yes can be bought and have been compatible with some consoles but all lack the greatness that is a PC with its many MANY flaw's but with its reassuring perks and easy day to day use and more so awesomeness in the front of other features aside from gaming we dearly rely on
Oh and DExter those are some awesome prices the currency transfer rate in $ to £ are 2:1, those are piss cheap considering what I have forked out for... christ it cost me in translation $100 for simply 1GB of Ram never mind fecking 43 pound!... I WANT THAT CPU!
i think that with the release of StarCraft 2 it will pull some gamers back to the pc, or maybe its just me
Well, in response to Karns reply, it doesn't dominate, I would prefere to play a driving game, or fighting game on a pad. I try to play killer instinct on my PC through mame, but I need a pad. The stick is good for driving because it feels more natural than a mouse.
As to FPS gaming, it depends on the game. Battlefield and steam (counterstrike, zombie panic, natural selection, all that jazz) I prefere on the PC, as you get more control over your movements. But games like Halo and Rainbow Six Vegas I prefere on Xbox, as it provides smoother aiming, and in some cases better performance. If you only need about 18 buttons and a move stick or two, why not use a pad?
As to FPS gaming, it depends on the game. Battlefield and steam (counterstrike, zombie panic, natural selection, all that jazz) I prefere on the PC, as you get more control over your movements. But games like Halo and Rainbow Six Vegas I prefere on Xbox, as it provides smoother aiming, and in some cases better performance. If you only need about 18 buttons and a move stick or two, why not use a pad?
Why are all these consoletards whining about having to upgrade their pc every so often?
I spend $100 a year upgrading my pc so that all my games run on high and newer games run on medium, which is like high on my older games because the standards are higher.
You spend $300 every 3 years to buy a new console. None of the newer games work at all on your old console.
Next argument!
I spend $100 a year upgrading my pc so that all my games run on high and newer games run on medium, which is like high on my older games because the standards are higher.
You spend $300 every 3 years to buy a new console. None of the newer games work at all on your old console.
Next argument!
Hmm let's see; you spend 100$us every year right? Console players spend 300$us every 3 years (according to you're numbers). So you too end up spending 300$us every 3 years also. Plus PC's don't get a shitload of games that are released for consoles only and viceversa. Hey man that's just the way it is; there are some that just don't like gaming on PC's, because of reasons that are really irrelevant to you (consoles HAVE their advantages over PC gaming), and the people that do prefer the PC as their prime gaming platform do so because of the endless posibilities in terms of costumization. But the most important thing is that although we have seen a lot of cross- platforming (Pc games to consoles, console games to PC) consoles and PC's offer very different gaming experiences.Asehujiko said: