Penultimate Bosses that were harder than the actual final boss
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Definitely not penultimate, but it must be said:
Metroid Prime 2
Boost.
Fucking.
Guardian.
Compared to Samus' abilities at the time, this so-called mini-boss encountered at about the 1/3-point is by far the toughest fight in the game, IMO. You're in first-person perspective, your health is constantly rapidly draining due to the poisonous atmosphere, and the boss jets around the arena like a pinball while invincible most of the time. I'm pretty sure this is the only boss you have to fight without safe areas before getting the dark suit (which eliminates almost all of the damage from said atmosphere).
Metroid Prime 2
Boost.
Fucking.
Guardian.
Compared to Samus' abilities at the time, this so-called mini-boss encountered at about the 1/3-point is by far the toughest fight in the game, IMO. You're in first-person perspective, your health is constantly rapidly draining due to the poisonous atmosphere, and the boss jets around the arena like a pinball while invincible most of the time. I'm pretty sure this is the only boss you have to fight without safe areas before getting the dark suit (which eliminates almost all of the damage from said atmosphere).
Ah, no no no no... Matador is still a stand-up fight using the kinds of abilities you already see in the game normally. Even most of his fellow compatriates are only challenging in the sense that they are called Fiends for a reason. If I were asshole enough too, that means I crush them instead. And wouldn't you know it? I am.Shawn MacDonald said:The Matador in Noctune kicked my ass the first time I fought him. He beat me so many times that I went back and got someone that lowers evasion. He's damn near impossible if he gets up enough stat boosting moves.
Alot of the bosses in the game are cheap as crap, it feels so good to beat them.
Now...TRUMPETER. Fuck him. Fuck that entire bullshit of his battle. I know I've ranted on this before, so I'll just summarize. His trumpeting either causes elemental area attacks or one of two effects. One is an automatic full-revive for the weakest character. The other is instant death for the weakest character. The death one always comes first. This is a gamble already and then he CLAIMS that this is all according to a specific count. LIES. I tried every interpretation of his words - keeping perfect score and count - and still...bullshit! He is a liar and he dicks with you. Random chance games are shit unless you have an equal chance to dick over your opponent.
Well, I STILL fucked him up. I had a low-level prick that I kept resurrecting that caught the brunt of the special effects no matter what! But that doesn't change who is the biggest pain in the ass to handle and who ISN'T the last boss of SMT: Nocturne.
Matriarch Benezia in Mass Effect 1 was absolute hell. As a soldier that is. She becomes a lot more manageable as an Infiltrator in my opinion.
By comparison, the final boss wasn't that bad.
By comparison, the final boss wasn't that bad.
I we're going by storyline bosses, then Gyorg from Majora's Mask was way harder than any of Majora's forms (thought I did have the fierce deity mask, so make of that what you will). I we include optional bosses, than Dullahan from Golden Sun: the Lost Age wins hands down. High stats, powerful attacks (including a instant kill move), to even reach him you needed to import all 28 djini from the first game as well as find all 56 in this one. On top of all that, he can use the 2nd most powerful summon in the game at will. Beating this guy rewards you with the most powerful, and most expensive,summon (even still, the final story boss is no pushover).
God Damn, don't remind of this little jerk. I was stuck for a long time against him until I learned that super missile can stun him in solid form. After that, it just boiled down to brute force repetition. Also its the light suit that negates dark world damage, the dark suit just reduces the drain to 1hp per second. As difficult as the Boost Guardian was, the Alpha Blogg and the goram Spider Guardian were 10 times more difficult.Aiedail256 said:
Demi-Fiend.
He has an attack that will ALWAYS KILL YOU unless you happen to be asleep and waste an ability on an otherwise useless move that allows you to dodge attacks while sleeping.
On that note
He has an attack that will ALWAYS KILL YOU unless you happen to be asleep and waste an ability on an otherwise useless move that allows you to dodge attacks while sleeping.
On that note
FUCKING MATADOR! By the time I hit Satan, I had leveled up enough and had three Hindu gods in my party but Matador just comes right the fuck out of nowhere and kicks your ass unless you're VERY well prepared.
I said "eliminates almost all of the damage".Legomaniac91 said:
I don't know why so many people had trouble with the spider guardian; sure he's frustrating with the precise timing required, but at least you're unlikely to die. And I beat the Alpha Blogg on my first try; it was only annoying because most of my shots missed for no apparent reason.
I can understand how you might feel that way. I see it a bit differently. Sort of like this...Shawn MacDonald said:
ME: Okay, I've trekked a long way from the city on my way to the next important plot poi-
(You feel a dark presence.)
ME: What? NOW? Can we do this later? This is sort of a bad time.
(You feel a dark presence!)
ME: Dammit, there's a save point right nearby! Can't you wait?!
(YOU FEEL A DARK PRESENCE, GOD DAMMIT!!)
The Fiends are, of course, my extra challenge, and they are trouble to no end. My battles are usually a case of either beating them or working around their powers/strategy next time I fight with 'em. With Trumpeter, logic is essentially out the window. He doesn't have a strategy, other than to lie to your face and do what he likes, which is doubly-infuriating because he claims that it's the power of GOD or some bullshit doing this. That's practically an admittance that he's essentially a nobody tooting his horn for the hell of it.
My anger runs deep for him for good reason. I am good at these games. Where other people are saying the trope should now say "ATLUS-HARD", I say "It's a fun challenge.". For the game to be spoiled for me, it has to be a particular ass whom even becoming an overwhelming Balrog is not enough for this Gandalf wannabe. This is not a random uber-dragon. I've chewed up and spit out random evil dragons, clearly by my Fiend record. This is where the dragon comes out, spewing fire, and then says...
"I have a wheel of chance, a D-20, and a ouija board that must be used in order to defeat me. And also...THEY ARE RIGGED FOR FAILURE!!!"
The power of the Fiends has nothing to do with the territory. It has EVERYTHING to do with your ability to get anywhere you want to, and they're often in your path to somewhere important.