I think the problem with it is that women in GTA don't really take an active role. The men may be murderers and thieves, but at least they're in control of the situation. I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just saying I think that's the problem she had. I'd like to see a woman criminal in that game gunning dudes down along with all the other guys who do itTBPH, it'd be kinda cool. It could be a crooked cop or something.VanQ said:
People freak out over Gamespot GTA V review
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That is indeed something. I actually really like equal opportunity mooks, it was one of my favorite parts of Bioshock Infinite, and Iron Man 3. I gotta see if I can recreate that...wait, there are random drive bys in the game? That's awesome!VanQ said:
Well, it appeared as though a police officer was in high speed pursuit of the car that gunned me down. I think I was more a random victim of a stray bullet that was aimed at the police unit giving chase. Or more like a couple of dozen bullets because ***** had terrible aim and mowed down more than one pedestrian.erttheking said:
That'll teach me to go for a run to increase my stamina in broad daylight. Also, one of the random muggers I beat down for purse snatching turned out to be a rather butch female. That was cool.
Well, I never actually played a GTA game and not about to start now, but after reading this thread and Gamespot's comments section, I award gamers a score of 4/10 on this day. This is a little bit embarrassing to witness, 9/10 is still an excellent score...
You know, I spent ten minutes writing a long, emotional indictment of the juvenile behavior I am seeing today. But I erased it, because it's pointless. Whether it's on Gamespot, or Youtube, or here on our lovely little Escapist, ignorance will prevail. It always will, because when anyone can express their half-baked opinion anywhere and to anyone they want, the uninformed and the knee-jerk reactors will always outnumber and out-shout the knowledgeable and the reasonable.
The fact that so many people, soooo many people (and don't tell me it's a vocal minority, I KNOW it's a minority, and it's STILL EVERYWHERE) feel that their safe little world is under personal and deadly attack because one person out there expressed a sentiment that they dislike, or did it in a way that it "shouldn't" have been done, makes me sad. That these people feel it is necessary to take up arms to defend their tiny little corners of the world from this perceived threat, and do it in such a moronic and/or hate-filled way, makes me want to give up.
So this is me, giving up.
The fact that so many people, soooo many people (and don't tell me it's a vocal minority, I KNOW it's a minority, and it's STILL EVERYWHERE) feel that their safe little world is under personal and deadly attack because one person out there expressed a sentiment that they dislike, or did it in a way that it "shouldn't" have been done, makes me sad. That these people feel it is necessary to take up arms to defend their tiny little corners of the world from this perceived threat, and do it in such a moronic and/or hate-filled way, makes me want to give up.
So this is me, giving up.
Because a review shouldn't be about what someone thought of a game. I mean, that's just ridiculous, right? Everyone knows reviewers should be nothing more than machines that evaluate all factors of a game completely objectively and spit out the EXACT NUMBER WE EXPECT THEM TO SPIT OUT. Anyone discussing their hu-mon emotions about a game is doing it wrong.Sack of Cheese said:
So it isn't misogynistic because it is satirically laughing at wives and feminists. Yeah I'm not sure you really thought that through ...MuffinMan74 said:
No one is saying it does. That objection was that there are no developed female characters, the only females in the game are ones to laugh at or view as sex objects.MuffinMan74 said:
People are saying that the reviewer isn't correct in this regard, but then they also say that if it was true it was ok because well reasons. That sounds like a bit of a confused response, and to be honest makes it sound like the reviewer is correct but people just don't want to admit it.
Because it would be bad if it did?MuffinMan74 said:
That is the freaking point. You have to "boil down" the male characters, precisely because the writers have developed them as characters.MuffinMan74 said:
I'm going off the fact that this reviewer said there was an issue with women in the game, to which the interwebs exploded saying both there isn't but also if there was it is ok because "satire". Any time that happens I'm inclined to suspect the original reviewer is probably correct.MuffinMan74 said:
It is like the child in the playground saying they didn't steal the football but if they did steal the football it was because Billy made them.
In a game the size of GTA V, with such a large cast of characters, you really need to ask yourself if more characters couldn't have been women though. The problem with your statement is that it is essentially not an argument, because the story is written by the writers and so they determine what is relevant to their story. Calling them out on not making women more relevant to the story is the entire point.MuffinMan74 said:
If you played a video game where all black people were presented as under developed characters simply present for the player to laugh at, would you consider that video game problematic, even racist?MuffinMan74 said:
That is circular logic. If you write a story without any developed women in it then of course you aren't going to have any developed female characters. But then why are you writing a story without any developed women in it?MuffinMan74 said:
You seem to be slightly missing the point here. The internet is full of people defending the game from what the reviewer said was troublesome aspects about the game. You are now saying all those people are actually defending an issue that doesn't exist.deloftie said: