People still can't hold a disc properly after 15+ years

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Vault101

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back before the turn of the century when I was alittle kid I knew how to handle discs

hell I didnt even think to use the hole in the middle...I stratched my little fingers till they felt like they were going to snap off....thats how much I knew YOU DONT TOUCH THE DISK

I once came home from school to find my copy of metroid prim 3 face down on the carpet (my sister had used the wii for sports) I was like WHAT THE FUCK!!!??

seriously theres $80 in that fragile thing...why not look after it?
 

Vault101

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Abandon4093 said:
Who the fuck uses disks anymore?

Didn't they go the way of the beta-max?
just because digital distrubution had some around doesnt mean Im going to throw out all my DVD's and just download all my movies
 

Insanity72

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Eri said:
I know in the scheme of things this rant is very "important" but I'm aggravated.

I used to go to Blockbuster a long time ago. In the present, I now use Redbox or Netflix.

Every time, without fail, there are multiple finger prints all over the discs.

Why are people still doing this?

It's been FIFTEEN YEARS since dvds came out and people still don't know how to hold the disc correctly. It's even worse when I get blu-ray and they have fingerprints, you'd think, at least those people especially would know better. But no, they don't.
Most places around where I live have a disc cleaner there, check the disc when you get it and if it's dirty ask them to run it through the cleaner.
 

Pebblig

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I get so annoyed by fingerprints on shit, and I insist everyone in my house hold a disk correctly. What pisses me off, is I bought a 250Gb Xbox 360 slim last year, which was a shiny black, now, it is bloody matte black. When will people learn that matte colours are superior in every way as there are NO fingerprints!
 

evilneko

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Kendarik said:
Anal much? Dust and scratches matter, finger prints don't.

From the Optical Storage Technology Association:

Should fingerprints and dust be cleaned off a writable DVD disc?
Like CD, DVD technology is robust and employs several design elements to minimize the effects of fingerprints and minor scratches on data integrity. The first line of defense comes from the physical structure of the disc and the location of the data-bearing marks and lands. The reading laser beam shines through the disc?s substrate focusing beyond the contaminated surface directly onto the marks and lands beneath. In concert with advanced error detection and correction capabilities minor debris and abrasions are largely ignored. That said, handling care should always be taken as above. A dusty disc should be blown off so that the dust does not enter the drive mechanism and accumulate on the lens or other optical components. It should be noted as well that fingerprints, dust and scratches have a greater impact on recording than is the case with reading a disc since contaminants reduce the effectiveness of the writing laser by obscuring its beam from the disc?s recording layer.
If dust matters, fingerprints matter.
 

Random Fella

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Most people don't really care
1: Because they just give no shits wether they touch it or not
2: Because it isn't theirs

Also, have you met the average person? Or been on facebook lately? 90% of people lack basic common sense, you can't say you're surprised can you?
 

Supertegwyn

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I HATE it when people touch my discs on the disc end. I just want to hit them.

If I see fingerprints on a disc, I will OCD the hell out of it.
 

Funkysandwich

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Abandon4093 said:
Who the fuck uses disks anymore?

Didn't they go the way of the beta-max?
People who live in countries with shitty internet use discs. It's faster for me to drive to the store and buy/rent a DVD then it is for me to download it. Remember, the entire planet is not like America.

Also, no Netflix out here.
 

Deadyawn

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HOLY SHIT, that bugs the hell out of me too. I hate it so much and yet just about everyone I know does it. It makes me want to scream.
 

Esotera

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Kendarik said:
Anal much? Dust and scratches matter, finger prints don't.

From the Optical Storage Technology Association:

Should fingerprints and dust be cleaned off a writable DVD disc?
Like CD, DVD technology is robust and employs several design elements to minimize the effects of fingerprints and minor scratches on data integrity. The first line of defense comes from the physical structure of the disc and the location of the data-bearing marks and lands. The reading laser beam shines through the disc?s substrate focusing beyond the contaminated surface directly onto the marks and lands beneath. In concert with advanced error detection and correction capabilities minor debris and abrasions are largely ignored. That said, handling care should always be taken as above. A dusty disc should be blown off so that the dust does not enter the drive mechanism and accumulate on the lens or other optical components. It should be noted as well that fingerprints, dust and scratches have a greater impact on recording than is the case with reading a disc since contaminants reduce the effectiveness of the writing laser by obscuring its beam from the disc?s recording layer.
That sort of misses the point that a disc can only take being dirty to a certain degree, and you're more likely to scratch a disc & render it unusable if you're holding it incorrectly. Having younger brothers, I've experienced both of these countless times.

It's not really that hard to learn either. It irritates me more when discs are left out of a case though.
 

The Funslinger

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Eri said:
Kendarik said:
Anal much? Dust and scratches matter, finger prints don't.

From the Optical Storage Technology Association:

Should fingerprints and dust be cleaned off a writable DVD disc?
Like CD, DVD technology is robust and employs several design elements to minimize the effects of fingerprints and minor scratches on data integrity. The first line of defense comes from the physical structure of the disc and the location of the data-bearing marks and lands. The reading laser beam shines through the disc?s substrate focusing beyond the contaminated surface directly onto the marks and lands beneath. In concert with advanced error detection and correction capabilities minor debris and abrasions are largely ignored. That said, handling care should always be taken as above. A dusty disc should be blown off so that the dust does not enter the drive mechanism and accumulate on the lens or other optical components. It should be noted as well that fingerprints, dust and scratches have a greater impact on recording than is the case with reading a disc since contaminants reduce the effectiveness of the writing laser by obscuring its beam from the disc?s recording layer.
By your logic it shouldn't matter if someone touches and puts their hand-prints all over your cars windows and your houses windows. It doesn't harm it right? It's annoying and there's no need for it, is the point.
Despite how OCD it sounds, I'm going to quote Chandler from Friends: "Just remember that your fingers have destructive oils!"

Seriously, how did you think they even leave an imprint?
 

The Funslinger

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Funkysandwich said:
Abandon4093 said:
Who the fuck uses disks anymore?

Didn't they go the way of the beta-max?
People who live in countries with shitty internet use discs. It's faster for me to drive to the store and buy/rent a DVD then it is for me to download it. Remember, the entire planet is not like America.

Also, no Netflix out here.
And those of us who like having physical copies of the games or movies for various nerdy reasons and don't want to be open to being jerked around by shitty third party DRM. I download most computer games, but as for my Xbox, I've used Games On Demand all of once.

A partially related example was when I bought the Miracle of Sound: Level 1 album. Yeah, I downloaded it, but I bought it off bandcamp rather than iTunes, so I could have the raw MP3 files rather than having it loaded into an application I don't have all that much control over. I value the extra freedom a lot.
 

Guffe

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Not theirs = not care
I usually take good care but might be a bit clumsy with my own stuff, if it's someone elses I really take good care of it.
 

Jiffex

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Insanity72 said:
Eri said:
I know in the scheme of things this rant is very "important" but I'm aggravated.

I used to go to Blockbuster a long time ago. In the present, I now use Redbox or Netflix.

Every time, without fail, there are multiple finger prints all over the discs.

Why are people still doing this?

It's been FIFTEEN YEARS since dvds came out and people still don't know how to hold the disc correctly. It's even worse when I get blu-ray and they have fingerprints, you'd think, at least those people especially would know better. But no, they don't.
Most places around where I live have a disc cleaner there, check the disc when you get it and if it's dirty ask them to run it through the cleaner.
I've recently had a problem with that, where I went through 3 copies of a pre-owned DA:O because they'd been through a disc cleaner so many times the data that told the console it was a game had been "cleaned" off
 

BENZOOKA

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Discs are not that fragile. Fingerprints alone don't really do damage.

Regarding disk handling: The thing that most people haven't seemed to know and realize is that the bottom, reading side, has nothing on it. It's just a transparent plastic disc, and the data is on top of that, with a protective coating and a printed image on top of that.

The protective topmost coatings now seem to be very robust, but before, you might have accidentally scratched the data itself, while trying to protect only the reading side (with the thought, that the top only has an image for the title on it).
 

Theminimanx

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A Raging Emo said:
I don't understand;

Why people get their fingers all over disks. You put your middle-finger through the centre, and your index finger along the edge! That is how you hold a disk!

Why people put disks in cases that don't belong to that particular disk.
Wait, middle-finger and index finger? I always use my index finger in the middle and my thumb on the edge.

OT: It's not just kids, my neighbour, who's the same age as I am, scratched the disk of one of my games, and now I'll have to rebuy it.