People who haven't played ME3: What's your take on all this rage?

[McMullen]

I'll buy the game eventually, just when its used price drops below $30.00, because at this point it seems like I'd regret giving EA money.

Still, all this rage surrounding the game has got me intrigued to say the least. Petitions? FTC complaints? Seems rather unprecedented. I find myself having to resist the temptation to watch it on youtube or read it on tvtropes just to find out what was so bad. Never had this experience with a game I haven't played before.

Of course, I imagine that I'll be in for disappointment of the "We must go deeper!" kind. I can see myself getting done with the game and saying "that was it?!", and referring both to the ending itself and all the fan rage about it. Disappointment with the game, and disappointment with the disappointment with the game.

It's just a weird situation.

Those of you who, like me, haven't played it, what's your perspective on this?

 

[Marter]

I'm kind of annoyed that I have to keep hearing about it.

Also, it's a good ending if it gets this much emotion out of people. That's my stance on it, anyway.

 

[Lithan]

I'm kind of annoyed that I have to keep hearing about it.

Also, it's a good ending if it gets this much emotion out of people. That's my stance on it, anyway.

The Nazi's must have been swell guys to unite so much of the world against them.

 

[Marter]

The Nazi's must have been swell guys to unite so much of the world against them.

Really? I'm talking about a video game ending (or, really, any artwork), and you decide to try paint me in a light where I'm supporting the Nazis?

 

[Lithan]

That's an odd way to read it. I'm making a point that it's a logical fallacy to assume that because something attracts attention it is "good", particularly when that attention is in fact a reaction to how bad it is.

 

[Marter]

That's an odd way to read it. I'm making a point that it's a logical fallacy to assume that because something attracts attention it is "good", particularly when that attention is in fact a reaction to how bad it is.

I didn't say attention. I said "emotion," specifically in relation to a video game ending. I didn't say anything is good because it induces negative emotion; I said that this specific ending is good if it managed to make people that upset. It was effective. It drew emotion out of people. It got people talking. It did its job.

That's without having played the game, mind you, and since I haven't been reading about it, I don't know why people are saying it's bad.

 

[Windcaler]

Im still boycotting the game since the PC version requires origin to run on it and I refuse to give them access to my private information for any reason. That and the day 1 DLC bugs the heck out of me too

That said, as an outsider looking in Im proud of the fans for making this kind of movement. Finally we see entire movements coming up to stand up for consumer rights. In a smaller and less organized way we see genuine complaints and concerns being presented which can only help bioware improve in the future.

It seems silly to me, that anyone wouldnt support the consumers that have excersised their rights but here we are with some people calling it immature, childish, and idiotic.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

Haven't played it yet, to be honest. My brother said he might be buying it for the multiplayer.

Personally, I pretty much agree with the angry fans. Not to the extremes some fans take it, but I do understand the anger.

If I were more paranoid, I might say that they made the ending the way it was on purpose so people would demand an alternate ending DLC and they could sell it.

Personally, I enjoy a good internet lynch mob from time to time. I may take up raging with them as well, should I grow bored.

 

[Aircross]

I think people being upset about not getting what they were promised in a product that they paid for is extremely natural.

See more empty promises here: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10056886

 

[Lithan]

But that makes exactly as much sense as declaring that COD:BOps must have a terrible ending since it aroused so much emotion... what with it getting voted the best game ending of all time.

You're presuming that only good things arouse emotion, which is no different from presuming that only bad things do. Of course if people only care about things which are good your argument is sound, but that presumption is flawed. It's what's known as petitio principii.

 

[BathorysGraveland]

Well I haven't played any of the Mass Effect games, as my interest in futuristic sci-fi is pretty much non-existent. That said, if the ending to an entire series that you really enjoy was complete shit, I can understand being pissed off. I think there might be some entitled opinions though, in the end it's the developers game and their right to write the storyline however they wish. You wouldn't tell an author how to write the ending to their series. I think it is a similar situation here. But again, I haven't played any Mass Effect, so maybe it's something you just have to be attached to, to get.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

I find that I hate both sides. The hater side for their utter depravity and depths that they are stooping to to get what they want. The fanboy side for their utter dismissal of any and all criticism under the pretense that the haters just want a "happy rainbow" ending.

Now, this vitriol only extends to the extremists on both sides. People who like the ending and leave it at that, I'm fine with. People who hate the ending and point out it's valid flaws without attacking others or doing stupid stunts are fine as well.

 

[shadow skill]

Well I haven't played any of the Mass Effect games, as my interest in futuristic sci-fi is pretty much non-existent. That said, if the ending to an entire series that you really enjoy was complete shit, I can understand being pissed off. I think there might be some entitled opinions though, in the end it's the developers game and their right to write the storyline however they wish. You wouldn't tell an author how to write the ending to their series. I think it is a similar situation here. But again, I haven't played any Mass Effect, so maybe it's something you just have to be attached to, to get.

A similar situation where authors have in fact changed things to suit the fans like in the case of Sherlock Holmes right?

 

[roushutsu]

I kinda feel divided. On one hand, I would like to get the game eventually and give it a chance. From what I've been hearing, outside of the ending, the rest of the game is really good, and I want to support good games being made now and in the future. At the same time, I understand that a bad ending is a bad ending and we have every right to voice our opinion on it and such. But to go so far as to file government complaints? I dunno, seems like a little much.

But regardless, I have NEVER seen such an outcry of this magnitude and we won't be hearing the end of this for a looooooooooooooooooooooong time. I can only hope that some good will come out of all of this in the end.

 

[Jodah]

Well I haven't played any of the Mass Effect games, as my interest in futuristic sci-fi is pretty much non-existent. That said, if the ending to an entire series that you really enjoy was complete shit, I can understand being pissed off. I think there might be some entitled opinions though, in the end it's the developers game and their right to write the storyline however they wish. You wouldn't tell an author how to write the ending to their series. I think it is a similar situation here. But again, I haven't played any Mass Effect, so maybe it's something you just have to be attached to, to get.

The difference is the time and cost investment. A book costs 10 dollars at most and takes a few hours to get through. The Mass Effect series cost 100+ dollars and takes 100+ hours to get through for the average gamer.

All the time and money invested into a product that someone truly enjoyed only to have the developers spit in their face in the end IS something people should be up in arms about. It would be like if the Harry Potter series ended because Snape came back from the dead and shot Harry with a shotgun. None of it would make sense and it would piss a lot of people off.

 

[Monster_user]

I am laughing my head off at this controversy. Hilarious.

I need to buy the game.

 

[GonzoGamer]

The worse part is that some kid in Mozambique is probably dying right now. and all we have are a bunch of zealous fans arguing over five minutes of cinematics. I'll be happy when all this blows over. And we can have some real SERIOUS gaming discussion. Like about Battlefield 3 and their new crapload of DLC maps.

fanboys and such.

So in the post-KONY video world we're going to have one of these posts on every game forum? Not complaining (people need to be reminded of these things and I'm glad that's finally happening), just checking.

OP - I'm one of those people who hates online pass, day one dlc, drm, as well as gamestop's practices. I find it annoying that with this gen of gaming we seem to be paying more for less.
However, for me to demand a new ending for a game... I would only do that if they didn't actually make an ending.