People who haven't played ME3: What's your take on all this rage?

[Tiswas]

The way I'm finding its that some people put the game on such a high pedestal that they were bound to be disappointed no matter what happened.

 

[Palmerama]

play all 3 games , then finish me3. Then you will understand why people don't like it

This! It makes every single decision you made in all 3 games absolutely pointless!
Not to mention the ridiculous plotholes that it creates & perplexing situations that occur!
I think what's worse though is that you don't get closure on any of the characters! You don't find out what hapens to them & out of all of them THIS game needed an epilogue!

 

[MetalMagpie]

The Nazi's must have been swell guys to unite so much of the world against them.

I call Godwin's Law. Thread over.

OT: I haven't played any of the games (RPGs are not really my thing) so my view on the whole thing is one of mild bemusement. People must have been really invested in this story to get that upset over the ending, no matter how badly written!

I guess I just can't imagine ever being so into a game that how the story ends would make me upset. I play games for the gameplay, not for the story.

 

[Avatar Roku]

I find that I hate both sides. The hater side for their utter depravity and depths that they are stooping to to get what they want. The fanboy side for their utter dismissal of any and all criticism under the pretense that the haters just want a "happy rainbow" ending.

Now, this vitriol only extends to the extremists on both sides. People who like the ending and leave it at that, I'm fine with. People who hate the ending and point out it's valid flaws without attacking others or doing stupid stunts are fine as well.

So aboslutely this. I was soured on the franchise by the time I finished ME2 and on board with some of the legitimate complaints of ME3 before and around release. Shit has gotten out of hand, though.

What's more, having read the endings on the ME wiki, which is my substitute for actually playing a game when the gameplay bores me, I find I'm not particularly bothered by the endings. Not great, but not "Oh, my God, burn everything!" bad either. Then you read the threads about people trying to sue them and I can't help but think:"Guys, chill the fuck out."

It's like, I really enjoy squid, you know? And if a restaurant made sub-standard squid, I wouldn't throw a fit or burn the whole place down. I'd just stop going there, man. Metaphors, yo.


EDIT: I've only read the endings and not actually watched video footage of them. I don't know if the execution/presentation is any good.

Really, the presentation is the worst part. The endings COULD have been serviceable if developed, but you get to the end and it's literally like

Spoiler: Spoilered for the sake of the other guy I'm quoting

"synthetics are evil. Here's a vaguely defined choice. Go."

Honestly, I'm assuming it's just a bunch of people who are butt hurt over an ending that apparently isn't has "happy" as they wanted it to be. I honestly don't know but that's the gist of it from my accidental quick glances at those kinds of comments. I've managed to keep the ending spoiler free for myself other than it might be sad.

Honestly the only way I could see myself being enraged about the ending like these people (and still I doubt it would ruin the whole trilogy for me) is if Bioware pulled a deus ex machina and had the humans call upon a different super powerful race that had never been heard of before which defeats the Reapers.

IF THAT IS IN FACT WHAT HAPPENS, I'LL BE PISSED BUT LET ME FIND OUT ON MY OWN! DO NOT REPLY CONFIRMING OR DENYING MY WORST CASE SCENARIO!

Sorry for the caplocks but that had to be said. I really don't want anyone spoiling the ending of what is turning out to be my favorite gaming trilogy of all time.

Edit: turns out I can't even read the other posts in this thread because some assholes are drawing comparisons to other series and saying: it would be like in "Harry Potter" or in "Return of the King" only this happens instead. Seriously! Idiot people, the thread is for people who haven't played the game yet. Fuck off and go talk spoilers in a different thread!

I'm not going to spoil it, but the whole "it's not happy enough" thing has largely been a strawman by the people who DID like the ending. Most people against it do have much better stuff to say than that.

 

[Nelle]

I haven't played it yet. And i am somewhat annoyed of those ME3 threads popping out in the Gaming Discussion board. I mean, lets go back to different games/genres already. I know some threads are also fighting without the theme of ME3. I know also that people want to flame on the ending of ME3. Which i never heard of!

Bioware made the game. Deal with it. And if they will release a DLC or Free downloadable stuff to add more story, then be happy and download it, If not. then just put this on your mind. "THERE IS STILL MULTIPLAYER and I CAN REPLAY ME3 WITH A NOTHER MODE LIKE STORY MODE OR ACTION MODE."

nuff said

 

[RedDeadFred]

I find that I hate both sides. The hater side for their utter depravity and depths that they are stooping to to get what they want. The fanboy side for their utter dismissal of any and all criticism under the pretense that the haters just want a "happy rainbow" ending.

Now, this vitriol only extends to the extremists on both sides. People who like the ending and leave it at that, I'm fine with. People who hate the ending and point out it's valid flaws without attacking others or doing stupid stunts are fine as well.

So aboslutely this. I was soured on the franchise by the time I finished ME2 and on board with some of the legitimate complaints of ME3 before and around release. Shit has gotten out of hand, though.

What's more, having read the endings on the ME wiki, which is my substitute for actually playing a game when the gameplay bores me, I find I'm not particularly bothered by the endings. Not great, but not "Oh, my God, burn everything!" bad either. Then you read the threads about people trying to sue them and I can't help but think:"Guys, chill the fuck out."

It's like, I really enjoy squid, you know? And if a restaurant made sub-standard squid, I wouldn't throw a fit or burn the whole place down. I'd just stop going there, man. Metaphors, yo.


EDIT: I've only read the endings and not actually watched video footage of them. I don't know if the execution/presentation is any good.

Really, the presentation is the worst part. The endings COULD have been serviceable if developed, but you get to the end and it's literally like

Spoiler: Spoilered for the sake of the other guy I'm quoting

"synthetics are evil. Here's a vaguely defined choice. Go."

Honestly, I'm assuming it's just a bunch of people who are butt hurt over an ending that apparently isn't has "happy" as they wanted it to be. I honestly don't know but that's the gist of it from my accidental quick glances at those kinds of comments. I've managed to keep the ending spoiler free for myself other than it might be sad.

Honestly the only way I could see myself being enraged about the ending like these people (and still I doubt it would ruin the whole trilogy for me) is if Bioware pulled a deus ex machina and had the humans call upon a different super powerful race that had never been heard of before which defeats the Reapers.

IF THAT IS IN FACT WHAT HAPPENS, I'LL BE PISSED BUT LET ME FIND OUT ON MY OWN! DO NOT REPLY CONFIRMING OR DENYING MY WORST CASE SCENARIO!

Sorry for the caplocks but that had to be said. I really don't want anyone spoiling the ending of what is turning out to be my favorite gaming trilogy of all time.

Edit: turns out I can't even read the other posts in this thread because some assholes are drawing comparisons to other series and saying: it would be like in "Harry Potter" or in "Return of the King" only this happens instead. Seriously! Idiot people, the thread is for people who haven't played the game yet. Fuck off and go talk spoilers in a different thread!

I'm not going to spoil it, but the whole "it's not happy enough" thing has largely been a strawman by the people who DID like the ending. Most people against it do have much better stuff to say than that.

Ah, see the only reason I used that complaint as an example is because it is the only one I've seen. That's just because it was a top comment on a video review of the game. The guy essentially said that the ending made him so sad that he could never play another Mass Effect game without weeping. This got TOP comment so that's the only reason I saw it. Otherwise I've managed to shelter myself from all Mass Effect 3 threads/videos/articles ever since.... until this one but I honestly figured that because of the title people wouldn't be discussing spoilers. Luckily I didn't get a very good look at the comparisons before my mouse shot up to click a different tab.

 

[karcentric]

When it's in the budget bin, I'll think about buying it, like I did with ME 1 & 2...

 

[Avatar Roku]

I find that I hate both sides. The hater side for their utter depravity and depths that they are stooping to to get what they want. The fanboy side for their utter dismissal of any and all criticism under the pretense that the haters just want a "happy rainbow" ending.

Now, this vitriol only extends to the extremists on both sides. People who like the ending and leave it at that, I'm fine with. People who hate the ending and point out it's valid flaws without attacking others or doing stupid stunts are fine as well.

So aboslutely this. I was soured on the franchise by the time I finished ME2 and on board with some of the legitimate complaints of ME3 before and around release. Shit has gotten out of hand, though.

What's more, having read the endings on the ME wiki, which is my substitute for actually playing a game when the gameplay bores me, I find I'm not particularly bothered by the endings. Not great, but not "Oh, my God, burn everything!" bad either. Then you read the threads about people trying to sue them and I can't help but think:"Guys, chill the fuck out."

It's like, I really enjoy squid, you know? And if a restaurant made sub-standard squid, I wouldn't throw a fit or burn the whole place down. I'd just stop going there, man. Metaphors, yo.


EDIT: I've only read the endings and not actually watched video footage of them. I don't know if the execution/presentation is any good.

Really, the presentation is the worst part. The endings COULD have been serviceable if developed, but you get to the end and it's literally like

Spoiler: Spoilered for the sake of the other guy I'm quoting

"synthetics are evil. Here's a vaguely defined choice. Go."

Honestly, I'm assuming it's just a bunch of people who are butt hurt over an ending that apparently isn't has "happy" as they wanted it to be. I honestly don't know but that's the gist of it from my accidental quick glances at those kinds of comments. I've managed to keep the ending spoiler free for myself other than it might be sad.

Honestly the only way I could see myself being enraged about the ending like these people (and still I doubt it would ruin the whole trilogy for me) is if Bioware pulled a deus ex machina and had the humans call upon a different super powerful race that had never been heard of before which defeats the Reapers.

IF THAT IS IN FACT WHAT HAPPENS, I'LL BE PISSED BUT LET ME FIND OUT ON MY OWN! DO NOT REPLY CONFIRMING OR DENYING MY WORST CASE SCENARIO!

Sorry for the caplocks but that had to be said. I really don't want anyone spoiling the ending of what is turning out to be my favorite gaming trilogy of all time.

Edit: turns out I can't even read the other posts in this thread because some assholes are drawing comparisons to other series and saying: it would be like in "Harry Potter" or in "Return of the King" only this happens instead. Seriously! Idiot people, the thread is for people who haven't played the game yet. Fuck off and go talk spoilers in a different thread!

I'm not going to spoil it, but the whole "it's not happy enough" thing has largely been a strawman by the people who DID like the ending. Most people against it do have much better stuff to say than that.

Ah, see the only reason I used that complaint as an example is because it is the only one I've seen. That's just because it was a top comment on a video review of the game. The guy essentially said that the ending made him so sad that he could never play another Mass Effect game without weeping. This got TOP comment so that's the only reason I saw it. Otherwise I've managed to shelter myself from all Mass Effect 3 threads/videos/articles ever since.... until this one but I honestly figured that because of the title people wouldn't be discussing spoilers. Luckily I didn't get a very good look at the comparisons before my mouse shot up to click a different tab.

Well, as I said, I'm not going to spoil it. I will say this: I would have been fine with a sad or bittersweet ending. What we got was an ending that made no sense.

EDIT: And I've seen a lot of other people saying the same thing.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

I'm kind of annoyed that I have to keep hearing about it.

Also, it's a good ending if it gets this much emotion out of people. That's my stance on it, anyway.

That's basically my interpretation of events. This [http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/why-the-ending-of-mass-effect-3-was-satifying-and-worthy-of-the-series-mass] article summed it up rather nicely.

 

[repeating integers]

It's making me want very much to buy the game and find out what all the fuss (positive and negative) is about. I'm waiting for now, though.

 

[cerealnmuffin]

I'm largely indifferent to the issue. I do like more somber endings with a bit of hope over the very happy endings. Perhaps since I am older, I don't get wrapped up in game issues and don't play them as much since they were my way of coping growing up. I guess I can understand the outrage, because I remember when Baldur's Gate was turned into a generic hack and slash. I look back now and laugh at how I was, but I was really upset when that happened.

 

[Manji187]

I don't care for the franchise anymore. There are WAY better games out there, in all aspects (storytelling, roleplaying etc).

 

[T3hSource]

If I didn't get the games once I got a strong enough rig I think I'd say: Why should I care?It's the internet,it can rage about a pebble in someone's shoe...

 

[Queen Michael]

That's an odd way to read it. I'm making a point that it's a logical fallacy to assume that because something attracts attention it is "good", particularly when that attention is in fact a reaction to how bad it is.

I didn't say attention. I said "emotion," specifically in relation to a video game ending. I didn't say anything is good because it induces negative emotion; I said that this specific ending is good if it managed to make people that upset. It was effective. It drew emotion out of people. It got people talking. It did its job.

No it didn't. Its job is not to be a huge disappointment, and from what I've heard it didn't do that. It's a bit illogical to say that it's a good ending if it managed to draw emotion out of people, since that means that an ending that was so bad that every single player got mad about how bad it was would be a good ending in your opinion. An ending isn't just supposed to "draw emotion out of people," it's supposed to be a satisfying conclusion and it wasn't. Fairly simple, really.

 

[Kahunaburger]

It's hilarious, and some authentically interesting discussions do occasionally come out of it. But people need to stop making ME3 threads.

 

[Fredrikorex]

All this talk about the ending being shit makes me want to buy the game and see it for myself, so I say it's a good thing they made it that way.

 

[T3hSource]

It's hilarious, and some authentically interesting discussions do occasionally come out of it. But people need to stop making ME3 threads.

Even if I made one myself,I couldn't agree more.Tried to make a more interesting,fun,versatile topic about ME3,but no one cared and got meme'd in hours.I just want this to end,it's been an interesting 2 weeks,but we all need to move on.

[small]Until DLC comes out ofc.[/small]

 

[Oly J]

I'll buy the game eventually, just when its used price drops below $30.00, because at this point it seems like I'd regret giving EA money.

Still, all this rage surrounding the game has got me intrigued to say the least. Petitions? FTC complaints? Seems rather unprecedented. I find myself having to resist the temptation to watch it on youtube or read it on tvtropes just to find out what was so bad. Never had this experience with a game I haven't played before.

Of course, I imagine that I'll be in for disappointment of the "We must go deeper!" kind. I can see myself getting done with the game and saying "that was it?!", and referring both to the ending itself and all the fan rage about it. Disappointment with the game, and disappointment with the disappointment with the game.

It's just a weird situation.

Those of you who, like me, haven't played it, what's your perspective on this?

I've been avoiding the threads altogether, no spoilers for me thanks, I haven't played any Mass Effect yet, I just never got around to it, and my console of choice is a PS3, which didn't get ME1, and since my 360 died on me and I never replaced it, I can't play the 1st one unless my sister gets it for her 360, and I don't like going into franchises part way through, though I will if their good enough, and I do love the work of Bioware so I probably will get ME2 at some point but not until after Yakuza Dead Souls, and possibly if I can get a graphics card Star Wars: The Old Republic

 

[lRookiel]

Honestly, I couldn't give a rats ass because I'm not interested in the series....

 

[Xannidel]

I just recently got hooked into ME2 (I own a ps3 so no ME1 unless I download it on my computer but I have already invested so much time into ME2) and I know I will buy ME3 regardless to the amounts of complaints because all these people that gripe, they are only saying their opinion on the game and while opinions are good, they should not be used to drive people away from a game/series that others may enjoy just as equally as say someone who is a huge Halo fan or CoD fan.
I am tired of seeing so many ME3 threads on here but that's really about it.