People with similar beliefs that make you want to scream

[zehydra]

Well, I'm also a Christian, although I don't share OP's views on homosexuality. (Congrats OP, you're an example of an answer to your own question!)

Politically Speaking, I'm one of a few, so I don't find many people who share my political views spouting nonsense.

For a while I was anarchist (not anymore) though, and believe me, that has a LOT of people all yelling random things, many of which I wished would shut up at the time.

 

[AquaAscension]

I wish I could point to a party or a religion and say, "Those views encapsulate mine perfectly." But I can't. It's impossible. Never will I be able to point to another person outside of me and say, "They think exactly like me," but now that I know this, the world is a much freer place. I realize that even though someone says they're Christian it doesn't mean much beyond that they are human and believe in Jesus and God to varying degrees of belief. I kind of can't believe the amount of categorization we have going on in the country and throughout recent history... it's like because of this postmodernization identity crisis thing we've had other people fervently guarding their boxes and wanting to create categories for everything. It's very much like trying to hold air in your hands without a bag or box...

But anyhow, not to derail the conversation, but I don't feel that many other people hold my beliefs, but I could rant all day about how people call themselves one thing and their idea of that thing is far away from mine.

 

[ElTigreSantiago]

Why facepalm? They're just as Christian as you are, my friend. A rather large amount of Christians have extreme ideas like that, and by calling yourself a Christian, that's something you're going to have to deal with. Me, I look at you and all the rest in the same bunch. You said it yourself that you think that homosexuality is wrong, and that is the same kind of senseless discrimination that makes you disgusted at the KKK.

There is just so much ignorant hatred behind so many Christians, and it makes no sense that you all split up. Although the idea that there are suddenly going to be magical things awaiting us when we die is ridiculous to me, I will not disrepect people for believing it. But when they start angrily preaching about hatred and burning in hell, and that their god guides them everyday (I guess God just loves celebrities more than the starving, or the raped) it slightly angers me.

But I guess my point is that, while I describe myself as an atheist, if atheists suddenly go psycho and start doing things I don't agree with, I will no longer label myself as one of them. Plain and simple. I'm not going to say "I'm one of the good atheists. Don't mind those other ones."

/rant

 

[SimuLord]

One reason I refuse to use the word "pagan" to describe my classical polytheistic-inspired religious beliefs is because the very word seems to be associated with fluff-bunny McWiccans who think that the Rede entitles them to act like amoral hedonists because they're "not hurting anyone".

Religion---even nature worshipping pagan religion---is supposed to be about personal enlightenment and frequently involves sacrifice and moral discipline. Unless you're a fluff bunny. Then it just involves writing shitty poetry, putting on a medieval-looking dress, and acting like a child.

I'd rather not get lumped in, so please don't call me a "pagan". Polytheist, I'd prefer. It emphasizes the gods first.

 

[WOPR]

So I'm a Christian. I believe that a guy came down for about thirty years, preached peace, love, and understanding, and got the nail and hammer for it. As such I try to be as peaceful and accepting as possible of others beliefs as long as they aren't openly harmful to others. You're gay? Your choice, I'm obligated to tell you that I think what your doing is wrong, but invite me to the wedding and I'll probably show up for support. You're Atheist? Fine with me, I'm gonna preach the gospel, but let's hit the arcade when I'm not trying to convert you to the darkside.

But every once in a while their are people who will hold the same banner as you, but the words aren't quite right. Example,many members of the KKK would call themselves Christian (Facepalm).

So what are your beliefs, and what people who claim to have the same beliefs make you wanna deck them in the face (Yes I'm aware that wasn't very Christian of me to say, but you get what I mean)?

Gay isn't a choice, Christianity is, wait for them to turn the tables- but at least you'd show up to the wedding rather then ban them from the state


Yes I'm Atheist and that's an argument you can't win; I won't start it, I just don't deal with it; Treat your Religion like your dick, Don't show it off in public, and don't shove it down peoples throats- But I would greatly appreciate the arcade offer, just don't challenge me to KI or MvC because you'll lose all your quarters.

Umm... The KKK IS christian by definition; they're just a LOT more literal, evil, and bigger bigots about it (The bible DOES support slavery and master race [Lev.25:44-6, Exod.21:2-8, Eph.6:5, Col.3:22] yes I'm an atheist that DOES his research before random bashing)

The last person I wanted to deck in the face, was someone who called me "Stupid" because I thought the idea of a man in the sky making our planet in 6 days was completely idiotic

my point on it- if the world wasn't established to determine how long a day was, how could it have been created in X number of days?

Science/Math: 1 Religion/Bigotry: 0

...and sorry for the Religion = Bigotry, but can you honestly name a single religious person that's not?

if you're religious you automatically dismiss all other religions and treat them as "wrong" ...bigot

I just dismiss it as "well I don't think that's true" I don't say "YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING!" and I don't (for example) restrict human rights (Catholics and their problem with gays)

 

[Ranquest]

(speaking from a Christan perspective) For me its some much not when people of the same my faith don't share the same views that annoys me.

But more when people when people of the same religion who don't share the same views (and to a less extent those who do) and either overtly or subtly implys that every else of the same religion has this view is when it really gets under my skin and annoys me.

Well that and people who mistake cultural significants or religious significants. (i.e most of the Christmas holiday stuff)

 

[Xpwn3ntial]

Well as an anime fan, I really hate being paired up with "weaboos" (people who basically think Japan is awesome in every way and is the best country to ever exist, and they also curse their non-Japanese ancestry), mainly because I come across as one, since I watch anime, have anime posters in my room, and speak a good amount of Japanese.

High five. Same problem, minus posters and linguistics.

OT: I am an atheist and the one person I want to stop preaching is an other atheist.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

Same as yours bro! Thou I do believe "Neo Nazi's" are a disgrace to the National Socialist Party of Germany and America. They are just hateful people who go around using the the hail and stuff not knowing at all what it means. But i really really hate people who will criticize what I believe in and fight for. If they had the guts to say that stuff away from the computer and without keyboard confidence i would bust some noses.

 

[SimuLord]

...and sorry for the Religion = Bigotry, but can you honestly name a single religious person that's not?

if you're religious you automatically dismiss all other religions and treat them as "wrong" ...bigot

I just dismiss it as "well I don't think that's true" I don't say "YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING!" and I don't (for example) restrict human rights (Catholics and their problem with gays)

Myself, for starters.

And how about atheists acting bigoted toward the faithful while claiming "if you want to believe, that's OK, but..."

I may be many things for being religious, but a hypocrite I am not.

And can we just permanently shut the fuck up about religion being the sole driving force behind genocide, or do I need to remind you of Stalin, Mao, and Hitler? Lack of a god does not mean lack of ideology, and the kinds of ideologies common to atheist states are far scarier than anything this side of an Islamic fundamentalist country.

(edit: Note that if you really walk the walk about being a tolerant atheist---or Christian, or Muslim, or whatever---I have no quarrel with you. It's the self-righteous Hitchens/Dawkins/Jillette types who REALLY piss me off.)

 

[Saltyk]

Well if I was gay and I was being told what I didn't choose to be is wrong I would be rightfully pissed, but moving on.

Im a liberal and my friends a liberal, we share the exact same opinions on almost everything, though I openly attack the democratic party on being to week on policy while my friend thinks every thing a democrat does is good and everything thing a republican does is unbacked and completely moronic

I think about gay people like this. I didn't choose to like women. I just do. I really like everything about women (all those nice little things that are under their clothes and all). That is not a conscious choice on my part. Why would someone decide to be gay? Especially with all the hate they get?

I get the feeling we would agree on some things and be at each others throats about other things. I get mad when someone flat decries a person's politics or beliefs simply because they are "wrong" and not on the merits of the arguement. I hate it when someone suggests that a Republican or Democrat idea is wrong simply because it originated from them. I've said it before, and I'll keep saying it till people understand, anytime you can describe yourself as an extremist in your views, you are wrong. Just leave the conversation, now. We'll all do better without your input.
[sub]Note: I'm not talking to you directly in that last part. Just people in general.[/sub]

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

I hate authoritarian "Socialists".

They disgrace the true Socialists with their name.

 

[WOPR]

...and sorry for the Religion = Bigotry, but can you honestly name a single religious person that's not?

if you're religious you automatically dismiss all other religions and treat them as "wrong" ...bigot

I just dismiss it as "well I don't think that's true" I don't say "YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING!" and I don't (for example) restrict human rights (Catholics and their problem with gays)

Myself, for starters.

And how about atheists acting bigoted toward the faithful while claiming "if you want to believe, that's OK, but..."

I may be many things for being religious, but a hypocrite I am not.

And can we just permanently shut the fuck up about religion being the sole driving force behind genocide, or do I need to remind you of Stalin, Mao, and Hitler? Lack of a god does not mean lack of ideology, and the kinds of ideologies common to atheist states are far scarier than anything this side of an Islamic fundamentalist country.

(edit: Note that if you really walk the walk about being a tolerant atheist---or Christian, or Muslim, or whatever---I have no quarrel with you. It's the self-righteous Hitchens/Dawkins/Jillette types who REALLY piss me off.)

the "if that's what you want-" blah blah

sorry I'm tired a bit

that part, I didn't say "but this is wrong that is wrong" I don't care what people believe as long as they act humane, the only reason I argued with that one guy was because he was trying to force something easily disproved, doesn't matter if it's religious or not.

as for Hitler/Mao/Stalin... Hitler was killing a religion via scapegoating; so that WAS religious. Mao, he was killing the smart so that no one could over-power him (wow that was a lame reason but it is) ..so point you; and Stalin... Sheash, he's the reason communist has a bad name... enough said...

I never said it does cause ideology, and... lost my train of thought... got a phone call from my CHRISTIAN FRIEND (yes that DID need emphasis)

but I hope I made a point; or something; I'm just saying that I'm not saying this and that and the other thing to OFFEND people or convert people

I just see people as people and hate bigotry.
-and coincidentally all the bigots here are catholic (there's a LOT of Catholics here... Catholic and druggies)

 

[D YellowMadness]

You're gay? Your choice, I'm obligated to tell you that I think what your doing is wrong, but invite me to the wedding and I'll probably show up for support.

So after a gay guy goes his whole life being bullied and outcast you have the gall to tell him he chose it? You're a rude, self-righteous, closed-minded, hypocrite. Until they start having gay sex right in front of you, you have no excuse to judge 'em.

 

[Naheal]

...and sorry for the Religion = Bigotry, but can you honestly name a single religious person that's not?

if you're religious you automatically dismiss all other religions and treat them as "wrong" ...bigot

Not all religious folk do that, mate. I'm an example of one.

 

[TomLikesGuitar]

So I'm a Christian. I believe that a guy came down for about thirty years, preached peace, love, and understanding, and got the nail and hammer for it. As such I try to be as peaceful and accepting as possible of others beliefs as long as they aren't openly harmful to others. You're gay? Your choice, I'm obligated to tell you that I think what your doing is wrong, but invite me to the wedding and I'll probably show up for support. You're Atheist? Fine with me, I'm gonna preach the gospel, but let's hit the arcade when I'm not trying to convert you to the darkside.

But every once in a while their are people who will hold the same banner as you, but the words aren't quite right. Example,many members of the KKK would call themselves Christian (Facepalm).

So what are your beliefs, and what people who claim to have the same beliefs make you wanna deck them in the face (Yes I'm aware that wasn't very Christian of me to say, but you get what I mean)?

Why would you try and preach your gospel to an Atheist? Its like sex with a black guy, you never go back.

To us, your religion is about as ridiculous as any other religion that has come or gone in history (or is still around), and I urge you to convince me that Jesus' miracles are any more believable than any of the other "messiahs'" or "chosen ones'".

I don't really believe you are Christian. I believe you think you are, but don't quite know what that entails (This is true of 90% of Christians).

I contend that the only reason you are Christian is because you were born into it and you think the ideals are great. Part of being a Christian, by definition, is believing the Bible through faith. I went to Catholic school for a long time, and maybe during my 3rd read through of the Bible (Yes, the whole thing. I would honestly bet that more Atheists have read the whole Bible than Christians.) I stopped and thought to myself, "Wow, this is retarded." (no offense) and have not picked it up since.

If you read the Bible though, you'll find out why fundamentalist Christians are almost globally hated. Both Testaments are horrible in their methods and scare tactics. First you have the Old Testament, which is jam packed with sexism, racism, and gay bashing (not to mention it advocates all of these). Then, you have the New Testament, which is more subtle about its prejudices, but tops it all off with the worst fear mongering scheme of all time: Christian Hell.

What could possibly better way to convert Jews to Christianity than by convincing them that if they don't believe in some completely nonsensical, unexplainable trinity, they will burn in a lake of fire until the end of time?

But yeah, regardless, I don't think most Atheists believe in zombies or magic, so you really should just give up preaching to us.

P.S.: My Atheistic preachings are justified only because you said that you preach your religion.

 

[Death God]

I have my own twist on just about everything, be it religion or games or anything. I never like or agree on anything 90% of the time. Like being a christian for example. I go to a chatholic church because my family goes there and I can agree with them about God and Jesus and the such. But their beliefs, I don't agree with. Same with teaching methods, video game ideas, the list goes on forever. I agree on the basics but when asked for details, I've always got a different twist on things.

 

[WOPR]

...and sorry for the Religion = Bigotry, but can you honestly name a single religious person that's not?

if you're religious you automatically dismiss all other religions and treat them as "wrong" ...bigot

Not all religious folk do that, mate. I'm an example of one.

Yeah sorry about that generalization; I live in a bad area, I'm rather tired... I know it's no excuse but I hope my situation helps explain it.

 

[Something Amyss]

I'm a bleeding heart liberal, but I dislike putting any candidate on a pedestal. In 2004, I voted for Kerry but only begrudgingly so, and got ranted at by my friends for calling Kerry a poor choice.

I'm not going to go on about my complaints with him, because that's not really the point. The point was more that I had to explain to my friends that yes, Kerry's shit did stink.