People with similar beliefs that make you want to scream

[concrete89]

I'm a Swede, and right now everyone is on about the Immigratio question...
The thing is that there are those terrified of everyone who is different, and who have no national pride, like racists and old people, and those whoclaim not to, who are so insufferably PC that they toss out old traditions in or example school, not because immigrants complain, but because they are affraid that they MIGHT...
In essence, whichever side you stand on, you are surrounded by idiots...

 

[WOPR]

I just see people as people and hate bigotry.
-and coincidentally all the bigots here are catholic (there's a LOT of Catholics here... Catholic and druggies)

So, you see all people as equal, yet your next sentence is "all the bigots here are Catholics".

I guess some are more equal than others then.

I'm a Catholic myself and all religion and atheism is comparable to videogame fandom: There's the casual fans who enjoy the good parts and critisize the bad parts. And there's the hardcore fanboys who cram their opinion down your throat and who turn into wolverines when someone critisizes their believes.

That's a good way to put it; but I think you mis-interpreted what I said as well as I mis-worded it.

I didn't say "All Catholics are bigots" I said that "all the bigots are catholic"

which I suppose isn't 100% true; I mean the bigots that pass bigot laws are ALL catholic (again in this area)

I'm not kidding with you; I did not see a SINGLE non-catholic person fighting FOR prop 8

(if you're out of the loop Prop 8 was to ban gay marriage... which is a load of bull; they're people too and they don't vote on YOUR marriage so why should you control theirs?)

 

[Sayvara]

What beliefs? Either I know or I don't. Simple as that. The only beef I have is with people who mistake belief for fact or knowledge.

EDIT: Well... not true. Anyone who mistekenly confuses belief for knowledge may be excused on the grounds that they had no malintent. I can't be angry at someone for being unintentionally confused.

People who have been informed and still keeps selling their believef as if it is fact however... that's a whole different game. They can expect only very little mercy...

/S

 

[Slysliver]

And can we just permanently shut the fuck up about religion being the sole driving force behind genocide, or do I need to remind you of Stalin, Mao, and Hitler? Lack of a god does not mean lack of ideology, and the kinds of ideologies common to atheist states are far scarier than anything this side of an Islamic fundamentalist country.

Gah, I just need to comment on this cause it drives me up the wall. Hitler was a known Roman
Catholic, and he worked closely with the church during his rule, so can we please stop citing Hitler as the ultimate Atheist as it's getting old. As well, Mao and Stalin never killed anyone in the name of atheism. Unlike the Crusades and Inquisitions which were done in the name of God. And last time I checked Sweden was one of the most atheistic countries in the world, and they aren't off killing everyone.

In case you hadn't guessed, I am an atheist myself. I'm not normally annoyed by too much of the atheist side of things, I do get bothered when people go to the extremes on either side. Obviously militant atheists do give us a bad rep. In reality, most of us probably don't actively care that we're atheists, it's just a day to day thing. However, at the same time, atheist who talk about how they would love to believe in a god but just don't because there isn't enough evidence make me rage. Either believe in a god or don't, I hate people who say they're one thing but act another.

 

[SimuLord]

And can we just permanently shut the fuck up about religion being the sole driving force behind genocide, or do I need to remind you of Stalin, Mao, and Hitler? Lack of a god does not mean lack of ideology, and the kinds of ideologies common to atheist states are far scarier than anything this side of an Islamic fundamentalist country.

Gah, I just need to comment on this cause it drives me up the wall. Hitler was a known Roman
Catholic, and he worked closely with the church during his rule, so can we please stop citing Hitler as the ultimate Atheist as it's getting old. As well, Mao and Stalin never killed anyone in the name of atheism. Unlike the Crusades and Inquisitions which were done in the name of God. And last time I checked Sweden was one of the most atheistic countries in the world, and they aren't off killing everyone.

In case you hadn't guessed, I am an atheist myself. I'm not normally annoyed by too much of the atheist side of things, I do get bothered when people go to the extremes on either side. Obviously militant atheists do give us a bad rep. In reality, most of us probably don't actively care that we're atheists, it's just a day to day thing. However, at the same time, atheist who talk about how they would love to believe in a god but just don't because there isn't enough evidence make me rage. Either believe in a god or don't, I hate people who say they're one thing but act another.

OK, you don't like Hitler, Mao, and Stalin, how about the French Reign of Terror in the 1790s? Before Napoleon came along and restored some sanity (and boy, is THAT ever setting the bar low), Robespierre, Barras, Fouché, and the rest of the thugs in the Jacobin Directorate dragged priests out of their churches and in the name of "reason" (read: atheism) committed some of the worst atrocities of the entire 18th Century "Enlightenment". That was explicitly in atheism's name.

 

[Squarez]

A good friend of mine is Muslim.

I think that's everything you need to know about his situation.

 

[omicron1]

And can we just permanently shut the fuck up about religion being the sole driving force behind genocide, or do I need to remind you of Stalin, Mao, and Hitler? Lack of a god does not mean lack of ideology, and the kinds of ideologies common to atheist states are far scarier than anything this side of an Islamic fundamentalist country.

Gah, I just need to comment on this cause it drives me up the wall. Hitler was a known Roman
Catholic, and he worked closely with the church during his rule, so can we please stop citing Hitler as the ultimate Atheist as it's getting old. As well, Mao and Stalin never killed anyone in the name of atheism. Unlike the Crusades and Inquisitions which were done in the name of God. And last time I checked Sweden was one of the most atheistic countries in the world, and they aren't off killing everyone.

In case you hadn't guessed, I am an atheist myself. I'm not normally annoyed by too much of the atheist side of things, I do get bothered when people go to the extremes on either side. Obviously militant atheists do give us a bad rep. In reality, most of us probably don't actively care that we're atheists, it's just a day to day thing. However, at the same time, atheist who talk about how they would love to believe in a god but just don't because there isn't enough evidence make me rage. Either believe in a god or don't, I hate people who say they're one thing but act another.

Say what? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler#Religious_views]


On topic: Westborough Baptist Church and Pat Robertson. That about covers it.

 

[Slysliver]

OK, you don't like Hitler, Mao, and Stalin, how about the French Reign of Terror in the 1790s? Before Napoleon came along and restored some sanity (and boy, is THAT ever setting the bar low), Robespierre, Barras, Fouché, and the rest of the thugs in the Jacobin Directorate dragged priests out of their churches and in the name of "reason" (read: atheism) committed some of the worst atrocities of the entire 18th Century "Enlightenment". That was explicitly in atheism's name.

Those are examples I'm okay with, because they're back with evidence. I never said there haven't been dumb atheists, or even stupider things done in the name of atheism, I'm just sick of people using the classic "What about Hitler, Stalin and Mao" argument because it's inaccurate. However, I'd still take the Enlightenment over the Inquisitions any day .

 

[RatRace123]

I guess the closest thing I am is an atheist, because I refuse to acknowledge an organized religion.
I freakin' hate the preachy atheists, the guys who'll always tell you how right they are and how wrong you are and how religion is evil and everyone who believes is a gullible, evil idiot.

 

[Slysliver]

Oh what's this?
OH NO! Photos!
The entire point of Hitler being an Atheist vs. him being a Christian of some denomination is obviously up for debate. But there's a lot of evidence on both sides. I didn't want to derail the thread. I just felt that it needed to be said. So, Back on topic if we can please.

 

[Whitenail]

So I'm a Christian. I believe that a guy came down for about thirty years, preached peace, love, and understanding, and got the nail and hammer for it. As such I try to be as peaceful and accepting as possible of others beliefs as long as they aren't openly harmful to others. You're gay? Your choice, I'm obligated to tell you that I think what your doing is wrong, but invite me to the wedding and I'll probably show up for support. You're Atheist? Fine with me, I'm gonna preach the gospel, but let's hit the arcade when I'm not trying to convert you to the darkside.

But every once in a while their are people who will hold the same banner as you, but the words aren't quite right. Example,many members of the KKK would call themselves Christian (Facepalm).

So what are your beliefs, and what people who claim to have the same beliefs make you wanna deck them in the face (Yes I'm aware that wasn't very Christian of me to say, but you get what I mean)?

EDIT: To those who stated that it would be offensive to preach to someone of different beliefs, that's kind of the mission of Christianity really. We're a missionary religion, if that in itself makes us offensive than maybe we all are, but I believe I can spread my beliefs without disrespecting someone elses. I'm still out on the choice/birth debate, but I would hope that my one time mention of my beliefs wouldn't hurt a gay persons feelings too much.

Ditto on the Christian feelings, I'm a Catholic myself and it's quite difficult when you've got people like the WBC to worry about.

 

[Dorian6]

I can't stand people who are incredibly political. Even if this person has similar views to my own, when a person starts preaching their opinion as though it should be common sense to everyone else, it just makes me want to smack him. You will never EVER convert someone to your views that way, and you'll just piss everyone off.

Also, I myself am generally atheistic but it bothers me when others with similar ideals talk down to religious people as though we're somehow superior because we don't believe in gods. Without the evidence to prove conclusively whether or not a supreme supernatural being does exist, no one has the right to call someone else stupid or ignorant, based purely on their religious views.

Well...unless they're Scientologists.