People you believe should be looked upon more favorably by history.

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JayDub147 said:
Like some others on here, I would have to say Nikola Tesla. This is not to say that people don't have a high opinion of Tesla. It's simply that not enough people have heard of him. This was due to the very unfortunate rise of one Thomas Edison, a no-talent hack who revolutionized the American monopoly. Aside from cheating Tesla out of money, he proceeded to mount a smear campaign against Tesla because he managed to invent alternating current, a method of transmitting electricity that was superior to Edison's own direct current. He even went as far as electrocuting an elephant in front of a large crowd using Tesla's method, just to scare people. In fact, this was what led to the development of the electric chair by Edison's company, which used alternating current to kill its victims.
Tesla's problem is that he was just too fucking awesome for his time. He was a visionary who thought up inventions that were just too out there to be of any good use. He did claim that he could split the Earth though (I think I heard this from Mythbusters).
 

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There's alot of things they should teach in school, which would make it both far more entertaining and far more inclusive as to the whole truth.

Like how awesome Teddy Roosevelt was (the guy was practically a superhuman). Or how Franz Ferdinand's true assassin happened to catch the opportunity to kill him by coincidence while enjoying his lunch. Not to imply that the Rape of Nanking was by any means awesome, but it is one of those "oh shit, that's brutal" things that every person should know about the darkness of human history.
Or how Rasputin was actually part Satan.
True facts.
According to the lengths they had to go just to kill the guy, I wouldn't put it past him.
 
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guy fawkes
a guy fighting for the right of free speach (nevermind the fact that he was a mercenary)
the idea of people celebrating his death disgusts me
Guy Fawkes wasn't trying for free speech, he was trying to get Britain back under the thumb of the Catholic Church, i.e. he was a wanker.
no he wasnt
he was hired by catholic rebels who were upset because it was illegal (sometimes under punishment of death) to be catholic at the time and they wanted to practice their religion in freedom

people are just upet about it cause he tried to blow up the houses of parliment and it's a famous landmark which represents (ironically) democracy
 

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dmase said:
Micheal Jackson, i figure there are going to be a few confessions from the families that sued him that they lied and he never really did anything to any children. Its more of a hope tho I'm not a huge micheal jackson fan but he was a great artist whos name could possible have been slandered by lies.
I agree on Michael Jackson.

Also Nikola Tesla is another one since he isn't as well known as he should be, especially when compared to how well known Edison is.
 

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avykins said:
He was doing what was best for his people. He is no different than the american founding fathers who slaughtered the indians for their land or any other leader in history.
Eh, no. He got the German people into a war they could never win and got c7 million of them killed. In the '30's and '40's German was repressed under the heal of the Nazis. Freedom of speech was not allowed with many hunted down by the Gestapo. The German people were, in the end, victims of Hitler as much as anyone else.
 

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Swollen Goat said:
While I agree that Hitler had many useful qualities for a politician, I must disagree with some of the "pro-Hitler" comments I have seen. First, he did not come to power peacefully. the book, "The Coming of the Third Reich" by Richard Evans paints a good picture of his methods of gaining power. The Reichstag fire and the Night of the Long Knives are two good examples. Arson and mass murder are hardly peaceful to me. Also, I would say Germany's losing the war is probably 90% his fault. While it is true that most of his inner circle told him lied to him, it was because anyone who dared to challenge his view of things was at best dismissed, and at worst sent to a concentration camp. While he had an excellent strategic view, his tactics were horrible. He had no concept of logistics either. And as for his pulling Germany out of their crippling depression, he did so by fraudulent means which would have failed even sooner without his plundering of Poland, France and the Low Countries. I do admire his ability to lead by any means necessary-he was truly the last conqueror the world has seen. But let's not make him any more than he really was.
W00t someone who knows what they're talking about :D

Also, I'm guessing from your name that you're a Clutch fan. If so, good on ya.
 

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la-le-lu-li-lo said:
Anarchy In Detroit said:
Nikola Tesla is ignored when he shouldn't be.
three cheers for tesla!!
Even if he went crazy in his winter years!
Or did he really build a friggin ray gun?

That is the question.
who knows. he probably has buried treasure somewhere of the craziest shit we can imagine. he probably hung out with aliens.
 

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I think all white cultures should be,not that we weren't wrong but simply put,by trying to make ourselves look like the dominant race we destroyed other histories so that the only parts left of the cultures we conquered survived, this makes us look like the only ones to do a lot of terrible things that were actually universal, so everyone thinks that white people were horrible at a time,which we were i might add BUT, other people did the exact same thing at other times but since we decided to do what we did, mostly it was the gems of their history that survived and the smudges went into obscurity, but white history was so dominant that everyone knows all the bad parts.
 

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Anarchy In Detroit said:
I think Julius Caesar has a reputation he doesn't deserve. Somehow he is always glorious when in reality he was a power hungry usurper and a genocidal maniac.
He sayeth Caesar was ambitious! Of course, brutus Anarchy in Detroit is an honourable man!

On a serious note, Caesar was actually a ruthless bastard, but he was a roman: what do you excpect?

I think John Monash should be more well known. Here was a man who went from being a civil engineer to being the greatest general of world war one (although that admittedly wasn
t that hard). A man who shortened the war by one year should be better remembered, I think.
 

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Ivan the Terrible, Henry II, and Maximillian Robbespierre along with Louis XIV, of Russia, England, and France, respectively.

All men of power who influenced the world as they lived and after they died.
 

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Xiado said:
Paperplanes79 said:
But that being said I believe Sigmund Freud shouldn't be so highly revered. I think most of hist theories are unfounded fodder for people who like psychology in an easily digestible manner without trying to hard to study it.
I agree, Freud's theories are pretentious assumptions with no proof, he essentially just made stuff up off the top of his head.
NeutralDrow said:
Has Nietzsche shaken off his undeserved association with Nazis, yet?
No.
MaxTheReaper said:
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Also, you are talking about WWII as well.
As an American student, I didn't learn about any of the horrific things America did during the war - they left it out to give the impression that the Allies were a bunch of saints descended from Jesus or some bullshit.
I know about the stuff the Allies did, but the Japanese were still ten times worse. Ever hear of the "Rape of Nanking"? It was a city, but rape could still be taken quite literally. Don't try Google Image search.
I've read a bit on Freud (not extensively), and everything I know about him points to the conclusion that he had severe Freudian issues (Oedipus complex and preoccupation with sex, mostly) that he then generalised to the rest of the human race in an attempt to justify himself.

I dislike how Germany is vilified so much, considering the Japanese atrocities. Unit 731 is my "favourite". I'm not saying that we should hate the Japanese, I'm just hating how, whenever we mention Germany, we have Hitler at the backs of our minds, while the Japanese get no such treatment (unless you were unlucky enough to come from a country previously under Japanese rule in WWII). This isn't a condemnation of Japan, more simple astonishment at the double standard.
 

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-Orgasmatron- said:
Myself, I'm looked on quite unfavourable by most, but it's all lies and slander.
With a name like Orgasmatron, how could it NOT be lies and slander?