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AzrealMaximillion

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Eddy-16 said:
yuval152 said:
His powers only work in the water.

Batman is even better than him.
WRONG! His powers get weaker the longer he is out of water but he survived in a desert for at least a day so its not that bad, plus he's faster, stronger and more immune to damage than Batman. Aquaman would fuck up Batman in a straight up fight any time, if Bats didn't wear the thickest plot armour in the universe. Sorry it pisses me off when people are like "herp derp aquaman can only talk to fish he's crap, herp de derp derp" while never having read a aquaman comic ever. Also he can give people seizures: http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t349/IMDBsuperman/jla00410.jpg
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OT: Probably Superman I find his character really boring.
Batman has the weaknesses of every Justice League character loaded onto his freakin' PC. He's already figured out 9 ways to kill/defeat Aquaman if needed. Hell, Batman has defeated Superman in combat using just his intellect multiple times over the years. Aquaman isn't even the master of his own domain as long as Batman has his head attached to his shoulders.

OT: I have a couple for this. Why reasons why too.

Spider-Man:his media has been destroyed. The games now suck, the movies now suck, and ever since he sold his soul the comics now suck.

Superman: He's boring now. He's died already and came back, so he has what I call "Jesus Syndrome". He's already died and returned so what's the point of reading the comics any more? He defeats anything that comes across him when he eventually works up the testicular fortitude.
 

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yuval152 said:
So now do you understand that it was a joke?

I linked a video for the big bang/family guy, did you excpect a serious post?
Sorry it still angers me. Aquaman is possibly my favourite hero and most people just put him off because The Big Bang Theory or Family Guy says he suck.

[small]I do like The Big Band Theory though, don't hate me...[/small]
 

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Eddy-16 said:
yuval152 said:
So now do you understand that it was a joke?

I linked a video for the big bang/family guy, did you excpect a serious post?
Sorry it still angers me. Aquaman is possibly my favourite hero and most people just put him off because The Big Bang Theory or Family Guy says he suck.

[small]I do like The Big Bang Theory though, don't hate me...[/small]
Then I apologize If I made you mad.

by the way I also like the big bang theory :).
 

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In Marvel.... Wolverine, not because i dislike the character, I was actually a huge fan way back in the days, but back then he was mortal. Yes he had unbreakable bones and claws that could cut through anything and a healing factor that was believable that could heal wounds and diseases but in no way made him a one man army. Now he can't die, the whole superhero registration act plot line proved that where everything was destroyed except his skeleton in a blast and in under a minute he grows back everything while the guy talks on the phone about how bad ass he is. Healing requires cell division, just how fast was that single cell hiding in his spine dividing? Even with exponential growth he would be just a smudge if it divided 20 times a second in the course of him dying and the guy calling his buddy. It has just reached stupid levels and he needs to be put out of his misery.

DC, Superman obviously, there is just nothing compelling about a character that is an invincible god so long as he stays away from a particular object. At-least the rest of the heroes have weaknesses but they are also vulnerable to non-weakness based strategies. The addition of him having no personality outside of "I'm the good guy" is tedious, theres no moral gray, no conflict and without the ability to grow the character is just dead inside. He has no depth and no risk and is an insult to the genre, he needs to die.
 

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SpectacularWebHead said:
Mine would be aquaman.
I hate that guy.
Man, lots of hate for Aquaman, I never really understand why so many people dislike him.

Then again my exposure to him is limited to his brief appearances in Justice League, where he was fairly awesome. The guy cut of his own hand for fucks sake!

And in Batman: The Brave and the Bold where Aquaman can only be described by one word.

[HEADING=1]OUTRAGEOUS[/HEADING]​

I honestly cannot think of any superhero who I either hate so much that I want them gone, or one whose death would have a positive affect story-wise.
 

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AzrealMaximillion said:
Batman has the weaknesses of every Justice League character loaded onto his freakin' PC. He's already figured out 9 ways to kill/defeat Aquaman if needed. Hell, Batman has defeated Superman in combat using just his intellect multiple times over the years. Aquaman isn't even the master of his own domain as long as Batman has his head attached to his shoulders.
Kinda made this point in my original post, Batman has the thickest plot armour in the universe. Sure he may have a plan to defeat Aquaman, but in a straight up brawl there is no way he would win. Batman only really ever fights if he has an advantage over his opponent, case in point Batman: Hush. Batman is "fighting" a brain washed Superman, he runs like a ***** until he gets a Kryptonite ring and even then he hides, punches him once or twice, hides some more and waits for Catwoman to stop Ivy.
 

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Superman, Aquaman and any other DC hero who's power set consist primarily of 'super strength/invulnerability'
 

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So, if I could hypothetically suspend the "Status Quo is God" trope for one character, who would I kill?

Lets go through a short list of candidates.
My criteria are based on two things:
1) How expendable is the candidate? Can they be easily replaced? Are they essential?
2) How much fan-rage and friction could I create by undoing the Status Quo? Will there be improvement? What kind of fallout am I expecting if I snuff this candidate?

(I am not a comic buff. This is going solely by what I've been able to glean from exposure)

**DC**
-Teen Titans: From what I've heard, it's a revolving door of death already. So, kind of pointless.

-Wonder Woman: It'd get a few fanboys to seethe and rage, but not nearly enough. Props for being fairly unique among the icons, and inspired by a bondage fetish.

-Batman: Actually, I think offing Bruce Wayne for good would bring a breath of fresh air to DC. Batman has a great successor, but they just can't go through with it.

-Superman: Probably the best choice of the DC icons. He's (at least in theory) "The Last Son of Krypton". You lose him, you lose both a major world-known icon and an important figure in the DC Universe.
He isn't easily replaced. Writers would have to work without Superman. Definitely my pick for DC.

-Green Lantern: Uh...aren't there like a whole bunch of these assclowns already?
Someone else from earth would get the ring and the Status Quo would continue. Plus, if I recall, the torch has been passed before. Twice.
Maybe if they make the next Green Lantern a woman, just to end the sausage-fest.

**Marvel**

-Thor: Pointless. It's been done. Hell, it was done a hundreds of years before Marvel even existed in Thor's ACTUAL mythos.

-Iron Man: This one would hurt me more than the other picks because Iron Man is my favorite superhero, but I actually would not be opposed to seeing how Stark passes the torch before cacking (if at all).
On the other hand, I absolutely hated Tony Stark's messiah complex during Civil War, so there might be some catharsis in it for me after all...but only a tiny bit.

-Hulk: Never really cared much for Hulk. I did read Hulk vs Wolverine over the summer, and that had some pretty entertaining dialog (but some atrocious pacing and pandering).

-Captain America: Didn't this happen already?

-Deadpool: I'd do this purely to see the fans rage like rabid animals.
In truth, yeah, I like Deadpool. He's good comic relief...usually.

-Spiderman: Just the thought of snuffing Peter Parker out for good brings warmth to my soul.
I do not know what it is about him, but I just cannot stand most Spiderman media. Neither the books, the games (barring MvC1), nor the movies.

Spidey is my definitive pick. It'd shake things up, plus, we'd get to see some genuine polarity among the fans. Why?
"One More Day"

One of the biggest 'FUCK YOU' retcons in comic history. All done to reset and preserve the Status Quo for the business, rather than having Peter Parker actually grow up and evolve as a character.

Even as someone who has NEVER liked Spiderman, to me that's kind of sickening.

Offing Spiderman and making it stick would create friction for sure; rendering One More Day simultaneously superfluous and infinitely more infuriating.
 

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I hate most of the super heroes with actual super powers. Superman in particular is boring because he is pretty much invincible.
 

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Eddy-16 said:
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I guess I am saying Aquaman is better than Batman. IF they were truly fighting as enemies, so Bats just trying to stop or disable Aquaman and Arthur going for a kill (which he would, new 52 Aquaman has no problem killing people) there's no way Batman could win. Firstly Bats is out-sped and out muscled, all aquaman has to do is land one punch (He can lift about 10000 tonnes) or one stab with his trident and Bats is out for the count. Sure Bats may be better at fighting but people like the Joker have managed to fight with him and hit him more than once and he has been frequently got shot and stabbed by regular people.

The only way I see Bats winning is if he has some bullshit plot armour like usual, like he had some ray continently installed to dehydrate Aquaman and leave Bats unharmed.

ALSO Aquaman is bullet proof not just his armour and I like Aquaman.
Dude, in a straight up fight batman would kick aquamans ass any day of the week. He can take a hit from superman for crying out loud. Plus he has contingencies for every superhuman known. He'd take out aquaman easily. Because lets be honest, a straight up fight involving batman, he can still use gadgets.

And I'm still fairly sure even without gadgets batman could kick the living crap out of aquaman. Because he's the godamned batman.
 

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I've never liked comics. My brother is reading all of them (personal estimate) and always harps on about how great they are and he made me read a lot, but they are always this weird mixture. Not as well written as a mediocre book, not as visually pleasing as a mediocre movie.

It's Superman though. Kill him! He can do everything he wants and has only one random and totally bogus weakness. And to make it work, fucking Kryptonite is everywhere. And when he encounters Kryptonite, 9 out of 10 times somebody's gotta help him or the villain must be stupid enough to gamble his sure vistory away.
Any Superhero who is in no danger of dying should go: Hulk, Wolverine, Neo (Matrix 2 was so annoyingly boring because you always knew he'd win).

The Hulk can work if they'd focus on the burden it is on Bruce Banner. The cheesy 70s TV show tried. If they can do a great remake of Battlestar Galactica, they can make a great remake of The Incredible Hulk. Just don't turn him into an angel in the end...
In the movies/comics the Hulk is embarassingly ridiculous. Cringeworthy.

Smallville had a great premise too, the powers being a curse, the struggle of Lex Luthor between good and evil. The show had no production value, no writing and no acting talent though. Another candidate for a remake, even this soon.
 

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Eddy-16 said:
SpectacularWebHead said:
I guess I am saying Aquaman is better than Batman. IF they were truly fighting as enemies, so Bats just trying to stop or disable Aquaman and Arthur going for a kill (which he would, new 52 Aquaman has no problem killing people) there's no way Batman could win. Firstly Bats is out-sped and out muscled, all aquaman has to do is land one punch (He can lift about 10000 tonnes) or one stab with his trident and Bats is out for the count. Sure Bats may be better at fighting but people like the Joker have managed to fight with him and hit him more than once and he has been frequently got shot and stabbed by regular people.

The only way I see Bats winning is if he has some bullshit plot armour like usual, like he had some ray continently installed to dehydrate Aquaman and leave Bats unharmed.

ALSO Aquaman is bullet proof not just his armour and I like Aquaman.
Aquaman is king of the oceans.
Oceans cover most of the earth.
Legally that makes him the most powerful man on earth.
I'd honestly kill off anyone whose character came about in the 60's or earlier, because simply relying on the same character for all those years is bad for creativity.
 

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Captain America or Superman. Either one is fine with me, i just want them gone.

Superman has always bored me to tears, even when i was a child. Short of a single rare element found in tiny quantities across the universe, superman is 110% immortal, and thats lame! He could eyebeam someone from ten miles away and never even give them the chance to fight if he wanted. God mode hacks are to boring, they take all the fun out of being a hero.

And Captain America is just..... Lame. Hes basically a pansy Thor with a shield instead of a hammer. And who would choose a shield over a hammer?

Now Spawn, theres a real hero! He doesnt stick a hundred villains in the same prison over and over so they can break out, kill people, and get put back in prison. He knows the only way to stop evil is to utterly destroy it! And while he may resurrect after death, he is by no means anywhere as "immortal" as superman. He gets his ass handed to him quite often, and can be killed by anything holy. Hes also rendered mortal in any place where the powers of hell cannot reach.
 

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Ravinoff said:
Superman or maybe Cyclops. Superman is just so massively outdated and overdone at this point, and Cyclops (unless things have changed dramatically recently) is a whiny little *****.
Yes, Cyclops. I fucking hate that douche. The only good thing Cyclops ever did was re-establish X-Force and put Wolverine in charge of it.