Piers Morgan VS. Alex Jones :guns

[MorganL4]

Somehow Alex Jones manages to mix refreshing viewpoints on history and its implications (dictatorships taking away guns resulting in unchecked tyranny) with nutty conspiracy theories about 9/11. -_-

In fairness he was "answering" Piers' question about who he thought caused 9/11.


My first thought was this guy (Alex) is off his rocker, my second thought was CNN is off their rocker for giving him a platform.

 

[Slitzkin]

Piers Morgan has his head so far up Arsenal FC's arse, I can't take him seriously. But the other guy...geez.

He is one delusional gooner.

 

[srm79]

First Amendment win!

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/when-discussing-second-amendment-keep-first-mind-too

 

[Zipa]

Its ok America, you can keep that walking dickhead, no really we in the UK insist.

 

[Patathatapon]

I clicked on this because I watched it in my social class today, and I could not stop laughing. If the American wasn't being an idiot, and actually arguing his point intellectually, It may have made his side seem better. MY interpretation on what the British guy (look I don't know their names, nor do I care, but you understand who I'm talking about) was that we wasn't trying to support BANISHMENT of ALL guns. Only Semi-automatic weapons (Uzi's, AK's, etc) which are not needed for protection OR sport and hunting.

I live in Canada, which last I heard has the most Guns per people (My social teacher's words, bring it up to him) despite most* people not having guns. Only the Farmers, Hunters, and "Kill for sport" people tend to have them (No, not including gangs, I'm talking in general). Though I'm sure they have them, it's not necessary to shoot down a thief with an Ak-47, when a pistol would probably be a cheaper option anyway.

I'm not saying the American's side is stupid. I'm saying HE is stupid, and his argument was stupid, and I'm not saying the British guy is Jesus or anything either. The British guy was at least a smart prick, picking his battles well, the American was prepared, but his argument had so many flaws it was just unbearable. I think gun's can be necessary, but if what I understood is correct, I don't see the point in a Semi-Automatic weapon unless you need to wipe down a row of people, which you probably won't need for protection.

 

[Sigma Castell]

This interview was the funniest thing I have seen all week. Just saying.
As far as gun law goes...I don't really see why people need guns. For sport, yeah, for Farmers trying to keep pest numbers down yeah, that's all understandable. But I genuinely cannot see why so many people feel the need to own a gun. The part of the Constitution concerning a persons right to own a gun has always seemed outdated to me, seeing as it was written several hundred years ago.

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

You know what? I think Piers Morgan comes off as the sensible one in this debate. He's just trying to ask a few questions, have a conversation (biased of course but that's how it works), and holy fuck Alex Jones is just off the wall! Nobody asked him about conspiracy theories, and the accent definitely wasn't needed. Calm down.

 

[Dangit2019]

I realize you Brits hate Piers, but here, he was trying to have a discussion, whereas Mr. Jones wanted to have a rant.

 

[NiPah]

Didn't Jeremy Clarkson punch Piers Morgan once? Yeah I liked that.

 

[Olas]

Thread about a debate between Piers Morgan and Alex Jones and PIERS is the one everyone calls crazy? What the hell's going on? Piers was the one trying to act civil and have a conversation while Jones was having his little eruption.

 

[Xanadu84]

Gun control debates bug me because I am generally okay with gun ownership, but the pro-gun side spews out such a constant string of stupid, it's painful. Trying to deport people for expressing an opinion? ranting about new world order conspiracies? Calling someone stupd for suggesting that limiting availability of guns will limit guns availability to bad people? Or genuinely thinking that your hillbilly buddies and you are any sort of defense against a tyrannical government?Can we just say that you can keep your guns, but if you do, you have to shut your big stupid mouth? Because that would improve life a lot.

 

[Rule Britannia]

Don't get everyone's problem with Piers Morgan...I kinda like his tv personality. He's certainly not in the wrong here, not morally anyway (I don't agree with his view on guns). The asshole was just shouting at him, shouting the same almost meaningless, irrelevant, things to Piers. My favourite part was when he said he'd wear the red white and blue in the boxing ring and he can wear jolly roger; does alex realise the british flag is also composed of red white and blue, composed of red white and blue before the american flag mind you.

Don't think it's necessary but, Flame Shield up

 

[Ryotknife]

Piers Morgan is a massive bellend and I have no idea who Alex Jones is.

Alex Jones is a lunatic who has made a living out of convincing insecure/insane people that 9/11 was an attack committed by the US government and conspiracy theorist nonsense in general. He has no mental capacity for critical arguments- his only tactic is to shout catch phrases at the top of his lungs and babble incoherently.

Putting him up against Piers Morgan shows just how dire the state of journalism is in the US.

sounds like the perfect person for piers morgan to talk about guns with.

 

[ResonanceSD]

I loved the followup video Alex Posted where he claimed that Bloomberg's Mafia were stalking him.

-_- seriously.

 

[Abomination]

Well played by Mr. Morgan. This is the best use of ad hominem I have ever seen - when your opponent does it to themselves.

I don't understand the hate towards Mr. Morgan either, he's certainly preferable to many other talking-point journalists out there. At least he has a brain, he might not use it to argue things many folks agree with but you can't call him stupid.

 

[Something Amyss]

Jones points out decline of violence since the end of the Assault Weapons Ban, but it was declining before the ban expired, as well. It's almost as if this decline is unrelated to the return of assault weapons.

First Amendment win!

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/when-discussing-second-amendment-keep-first-mind-too

We don't want free speech in America!

Its ok America, you can keep that walking dickhead, no really we in the UK insist.

Can we compromise and ship him off to Australia or something?

Thread about a debate between Piers Morgan and Alex Jones and PIERS is the one everyone calls crazy? What the hell's going on? Piers was the one trying to act civil and have a conversation while Jones was having his little eruption.

People don't seem to like siding with people they don't like.

 

[Barciad]

It takes quite a performance to make Piers Morgan likable, yet Alex Jones has somehow managed it.

 

[Headdrivehardscrew]

Dont deport him unless its to the north pole, we don't want him back here in the uk.
I tend to agree with the furious man but to a much lesser degree, and disagree with him on a lot of points (he really isn't doing his side any favours by being as irate as that and hes fucking deluded about prozac, of course people on anti depressants are going to have a higher suicide rate, its a fucking drug for depressed people). 2nd amendment is for a reason but more controls are needed, it should be a harshly punishable crime to not have guns properly locked up, especially if you have kids.

Honestly I think what they did here is to get a very uptight paranoid man who cant argue for shit to make piers morgan look better and more correct by comparison.

The more liberties you have the better, and the 2nd amendment is just one.

Hmmm, here's my tuppence:

Prozac does, indeed, elevate the risk of giving in to the impulse of offing yourself on a whim. There's absolutely no conspiracy theory level delusion going on there. It's, as of now, pretty much acknowledged and scientific fact until proven otherwise.

I agree with you on people locking their guns away so kids can't get to them. But I also believe it's important to raise your kids to not be complete idiots that shoot themselves or each other in the face during, say, a facebook photo shoot.

Here, I suggest you also watch this video featuring Alex Jones in his studio, his home turf, with Doug Stanhope:

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As for Alex Jones being uptight and paranoid... meh, thing is, most of what he says when he's just a little less riled up is pretty much spot on, but I must admit that sitting opposite supercunt Piers Morgan tends to bring out the worst in everyone. Piers Morgan is a sad, sad person. Alex Jones is not. A lot of people will not just beg to differ, they'll hate on sight, in a rather trigger->response kind of fashion.