Piracy...can it kill PC gaming?

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Trolldor

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Vault101 said:
Ok we all know that PC is far from dead, and im sure this has been discussed to death

with all this talk of crysis 2 being leaked, some people mentioned that mabye crysis 3 (if there is going to be a crysis 3) wouldnt be released on PC, I find it kind of sad that developers get turned off producing for PC because of stuff like this

It also annoys me that legitimate buyers like me get punished for some self-entitled person who dosnt want to pay (justify piracy or not no one on eather end is going to change their mind)

so do you think less and less are developing for PC? will this trend continue?
Less and less are developing for PC because anti-piracy doesn't work. Less and less are buying for PC because they get stuck with the anti-piracy measures.

Pirates need to learn to stop acting under this 'self-entitlement' delusion.
 

Vault101

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Souplex said:
It's already mortally wounded it, there's no way it can survive another half-decade against the various natural predators out there.
Arcade people were convinced arcades weren't going anywhere when they died.
PC game sales make up aboot 7% of the market, and that figure is shrinking.
I dont know if those figure factor in digital distribution...because if steam sales are anything to go by then there are still alot of people buying PC games
 

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IBlackKiteI said:
It could severely cripple the industry even more than it is now but it won't outright kill the PC.

The real danger to PC gaming is consoles.
but there have always been consoles alongside PC, now I think PC and consoles are on even ground and somtimes having a console can seem apealing in comparison to the negatives of PC's

but as long developers keep developing/porting to all platforms its not much of an issue, thats what Im worried about, the day all I can play are shooters or MMO's is the day I get a console
 

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Vault101 said:
Souplex said:
It's already mortally wounded it, there's no way it can survive another half-decade against the various natural predators out there.
Arcade people were convinced arcades weren't going anywhere when they died.
PC game sales make up aboot 7% of the market, and that figure is shrinking.
I dont know if those figure factor in digital distribution...because if steam sales are anything to go by then there are still alot of people buying PC games
I got that figure from Michael Pachter, he keeps up to date on things like steam.

Steam users are a loud minority. If you shout loud enough, people will pay attention no matter what.
 

UberMore

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It shouldn't do, cos there are still a high enough level of genuine gamers who buy the content to fund the market.
It's sort of like asking "Will the new PS3 hacks kill the console"?

Alot of people are too lazy to pirate, with game sizes being quite large, so most can't be bothered with the D/l times.
Actually ...um OTHER people use Jdownloader, then leave their computers on over night. With a decent internet connection you can DL just about any game in less than a day on Megaupload. JD does it all automatically even some sites captchas.
That being so, with download limits (for those with archaic connections), peak-time/low-time and other games to play, alot of people still buy the genuine article just cos it's more convenient.
 

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If this was the 1980s/1990s? Maybe. Now? Never. There's an extremely dedicated fanbase of modders and independent studios that wouldn't be able to express their talent/get money anywhere else besides the PC. The real question is if piracy is going to kill big-budget games being made for the PC.
 

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Nova Helix said:
If piracy could kill PC gaming it would have happened LONG ago.
Yes. Piracy is only a desperate measure for most people who have no access or can't afford to buy games without going hungry themselves.
 

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I don't think so. Pirating has been going on for a while now. The amount of pirates probably doesn't fluctuate much, as much of it relies on morals.

I also don't think that this leak will have as much of an affect as it first appears. The pirates who dl it illegally early would have later anyway. And no, they won't buy ligit copies once the game actually does come out. That's not how that works, quite lying to yourselves. Maybe 2 percent of pirates do that SOMETIMES. I wish people would stop using it as an excuse for pirating.
 

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V8 Ninja said:
The real question is if piracy is going to kill big-budget games being made for the PC.
Considering the big studios' mentality of "make something better by throwing ridiculous amounts of money at it instead of just damn well making a good game" is that really a bad thing?

Case in point; Fallout New Vegas. I played it, and throughout I was just thinking; "this is fucking Fo3 with mods built in". It's a pure copypasta of Fo3 with a new story and world tacked on top. At most it qualifies as an expansion or DLC, not a damned full price sequel. Contrast to Minecraft, which is almost painfully addictive and actually treads some new - and very fun - ground (something the larger studios seem to have a phobia of).

But no, unfortunately, AAA developers are never going to stop producing shovelware/games for PCs. Even with rampant piracy, they still make profit off the platform.
 

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Whargarble said:
As long as they can make more money on it than they will lose, PC gaming will always exist. That's all it really boils down to in the end.
And this is the correct answer.

As a business standpoint console is high risk low reward ventures. While PC gaming is low risk high reward ventures.

There are more PC than console. There are more portal devices than console. Development of games are cheaper in PC and portal devices than console. If anything this is the beginning of the end for console.
 

Siyano_v1legacy

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Piracy can hardly kill it, it exist since the start of the home computer. It will cohabit and will still cohabit together with the computer
 

MrGalactus

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Piracy is a massive threat to PC gaming. The best thing you can do to combat the decline of it is to not take part in it yourself.
 

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Console gaming has become more popular because consoles are more convenient and economical then a PC (which requires some knowlege and alot more of an investment) So, PC sales have dropped. Piracy is a very small factor.