PC gamers have been laughing in the faces of console gamers for the longest time. Their persistence keeps them alive. Not to say that one's better than the other but consoles aren't a threat, just a different choice.IBlackKiteI said:
Piracy...can it kill PC gaming?
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Weather or not you think new veags was jsut a glorified expansion pack is subjective, I loved that game and thourght it improved upon fallout 3 in every wayOm Nom Nom said:
alot of good games are big releases, such as anyhting from bioware or valve, I like flashy graphics epic cutscnenes and lots of voice acting (if the game is good anyway) and I wil go to console if all I can ever play is minescraft or MMO's
and isnt AAA the oposite of shovelware? like that stuff you get on the wii
Piracy could kill PC gaming. Will it? Maybe, maybe not. What is more likely in my opinion is that we'll see more and more intrusive DRM and other anti-piracy measures. As a result of that prices for games will go up even further even for non AAA releases. From there it's not all that much of a stretch to realize that the cost of gaming and games will more than likely be the undoing of the gaming industry.
Piracy can hurt PC gaming. A little. But it can't kill it.
It could, theoretically, drive away big developers like EA, Activision, and so on. But there are many thousands of smaller individuals that don't need over a hundred thousand sales to break even. You'd be saying goodbye to the huge budgets and vast quantities of content, but gaming would go on without them. Games would become more niche as the remaining companies sought out blocks of loyal and dependable customers.
I don't think this scenario is too likely, I think we'll just continue to see the big boys punch their customers in the face with unnecessary DRM in the vain hope that someday they'll actually hit a pirate. Prices will continue to go up to produce ever more impressive graphics for the CG-worshipping public. At some point, they're simply going to price themselves out of the market, but not for a little while yet. And that will hurt more than all the pirates ever born.
It could, theoretically, drive away big developers like EA, Activision, and so on. But there are many thousands of smaller individuals that don't need over a hundred thousand sales to break even. You'd be saying goodbye to the huge budgets and vast quantities of content, but gaming would go on without them. Games would become more niche as the remaining companies sought out blocks of loyal and dependable customers.
I don't think this scenario is too likely, I think we'll just continue to see the big boys punch their customers in the face with unnecessary DRM in the vain hope that someday they'll actually hit a pirate. Prices will continue to go up to produce ever more impressive graphics for the CG-worshipping public. At some point, they're simply going to price themselves out of the market, but not for a little while yet. And that will hurt more than all the pirates ever born.
Aren't Wii and DS games super easy to crack? (I dont have either) I never hear that piracy will be the downfall of those systems.
DRM (at it's least obtrusive) winds up being like seeing the "you wouldn't steal a car..." PSAs they used to put on DVD's (remember those). The studios know it wont help the issue, but put it there as a glorified legal disclaimer. Like "hey we gave it our best shot, now please don't rip this"
DRM (at it's least obtrusive) winds up being like seeing the "you wouldn't steal a car..." PSAs they used to put on DVD's (remember those). The studios know it wont help the issue, but put it there as a glorified legal disclaimer. Like "hey we gave it our best shot, now please don't rip this"
Its easier to to play day one 360 games than day one PC games, so no.
File sharing is generally a moot issue as you can not easily make something from nothing and that is what a copy is.
File sharing is generally a moot issue as you can not easily make something from nothing and that is what a copy is.
I think the issue with PC is its easyer to pirate all you really need is an internet connectionstiffy said:
anyway when I say PC gaming I don't mean WOW or farmville, games like that are a given, Im more worried about other genres like RPG's or action games or even FPS
I think people will still develop for the PC. At some point, the internet will be so pervasive that requiring internet access is going to be like requiring hands. Nobody will care and the continuous internet checks will help prevent piracy (it will still get cracked but its an ongoing process not a stagnate goal).
in the mean time internet is still an issue for people like me but yes I do see things heading that way in the futureTwilight_guy said:
I hope Australia gets in new broadband thing into action, we are still stuck in the dark ageis (ok some of us are.....well I am)
That's a valid point. I always worry when a new title is released if I'll get a simultaneous PC release. AAA titles seem to be 'more of a hassle' to get released consistently on PC (Alan Wake, Gears2, AssCreed: Brotherhood, Deadspace 2 dlc, RED DEAD!!!!) I believe the motivation for developers is and always will be money. They simply sell more units on consoles. Their excuse is that the PC wont sell as much because of piracy is a cop out.Vault101 said:
well yes in a way, but if your like thos ppl like me that play video games form the old days where you can't get it anyway, well i use ebay, by thos developers that or long died go for it, i think same body made a video heres the linkhttp://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/2653-Piracy
agreed though Im pretty sure Assins creed brotherhood is coming to PC eventuallystiffy said:
as for the Dead space DLC theres a bit of confusion there...but wasnt it actually on the disk? therefore technically with a bit of know-how possible to access? because DLC thats technically already there is a rip-off anyway
aIve always wanted ot play gears of war but its not worth getting an xbox...
Honestly if anything is "killing" PC gaming... its PC gamers. I think it does a lot to put off people to have this constant superiority complex when it comes to PCs. People get this misconception that you have to have a 1000$ + gaming rig to even scratch min specs on games which is almost always false.
In a way devs want to kill it because of the misconceptions of Piracy on the PC. Also DRM techniques like Steam are not the solution because steam games are just as pirated as non steam games. Hell even VALVE games are pirated.
Could it happen? No. Not directly. The only way Piracy could kill PC gaming is if Devs just out and out refuse to develop for the platform. (which honestly seems silly, considering how most titles that come to release on PC are either piracy protected MMOs, or ports of existing console titles that 8/10 were initially developed on PC in order to create console versions.
I dunno, I see this as the merging of two obnoxious concepts that keep popping up individually, is PC gaming dying, and Piracy R bad.
In a way devs want to kill it because of the misconceptions of Piracy on the PC. Also DRM techniques like Steam are not the solution because steam games are just as pirated as non steam games. Hell even VALVE games are pirated.
Could it happen? No. Not directly. The only way Piracy could kill PC gaming is if Devs just out and out refuse to develop for the platform. (which honestly seems silly, considering how most titles that come to release on PC are either piracy protected MMOs, or ports of existing console titles that 8/10 were initially developed on PC in order to create console versions.
I dunno, I see this as the merging of two obnoxious concepts that keep popping up individually, is PC gaming dying, and Piracy R bad.
Well, it certainly has scared of triple A developers doing PC-centric games.
Will it kill of the PC gaming as a whole? No. Will it scare of more Triple A studios? Maybe, though it feels like we already hit the bottom.
Will it kill of the PC gaming as a whole? No. Will it scare of more Triple A studios? Maybe, though it feels like we already hit the bottom.
agreed and to be honest I can cope with ports..even bad ones just as long as I am able to play most games that come out Im happyviranimus said:
there are only two games I can think of off the top of my head the are PC exclusive and not MMO's
The witcher- which was boring as hell but Mbaye I should give it a secodn chance, plus if youre into that kind of thing more power to you
Starcraft- actually looks pretty cool and I havnt any RTS for a while though Im not sure the songle player holds up on its own
No, Mr. Pachter don't keep tabs on Steam. No one but Valve themselves keep tabs on the Steam sales and they never release salesnumbers. Thus making your argument invalid.Souplex said:
Though counting in digital distribution I don't think PC-game sales are over 20 % anyways.
