Huh...renegade7 said:
Now I don't know about you... but this is directly from Oxford's definition of 'Art' and I'd say EVERY videogame fits that mould. Anything created by man, whether a simple doodle or a marvel of engineering is a work of art. Might want to tell your teacher to stop being such an art snob. Just because videogames don't fit into her personal definition of art doesn't mean that they don't fit into the general definition of art. Objectively she cannot dock you points for that.
do you live in the US? if so then Video games are legally considered art by the US National Endowment for the Arts. this makes her argument invalid. if the US Government consider it art then there not much point in arguing since games can now get funding from them.renegade7 said:
Ask her if you can do another assignment, in which you attempt to make the case that video games are art. You can cite the fact that the National Endowment for the Arts recognizes them, for instance. You an also talk about how movies are "entertainment that contains art," but can also be works of art in their own right which people now accept--acceptance that video games are just now starting to gain, too. By doing this, you show her that you were acting in earnest, and that you want to fulfill the requirements of the assignment.renegade7 said:
So Pokemon red is not pretty enough to be art, is that what your saying? Would you say that a picture carved into a rock by a ancient human is less of a art than a painting? Sure,the rock carving more primitive and has less detail than the Mona Lisa, but that's due to the limitations of the time. Pokemon red was made on the original game boy. Assassins creed was made for a modern computer. Pokemon red has a unique world, interesting game mechanics and a simple story that ties everything together perfectly. The limitations prevented it form having a long and detailed story like Assassins creed, but it makes up for that by having fun gameplay and many places to explore (AC has that too, just for the record).Radelaide said:
The thing I see about Pokemon is that it wasn't intended to be thought about. There's no heavy subtext, there's nothing to engage you past "Holy crap, a rare candy!" (Which really weren't that rare.) Batman/Assassin's Creed are meant to engage you. There's stuff there to think about. That's what real art is, it's made to leave you thinking. The visuals of Pokemon are something to consider, but I prefer to think of the storyline and background information to be more substantial than the visuals. Think about Mona Lisa, it's a pretty picture, but the closer examinations of it show many smiles. That makes me think about perfection and imperfection and going on from there.master-jedi said:
Well you're completely right and there should be a /thread.Ixnay1111 said:
Oh look, my opinion's already been neatly stated for me, this saved me some trouble of writing a longer post.Dags90 said:
Batman is literally just a game about batman collecting parts to a hovercraft as you can see by clicking this link [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDK5nkHrczc].Radelaide said:
While I agree with that, I'd still tell you to go to your counselor. It was your fault for going for something that would obviously be controversial, but you were still technically right.daftalchemist said:
When I was in school, my English teaches graded me on my ability to convey my point in a way that the person who was reading it could understand what I were trying to say. The OP said that the teacher wrote that the paper was well written. Weather or not Pokemon red is art or not is Irrelevant. He should not have gotten marked down for that.jonyboy13 said:
I think the person you are quoting didn't mean think as it 'think of a relevant strategy', but think of something such as a moral message, something that stays with you, or something that questions an established belief in our society.master-jedi said:
