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spartan231490

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Well, all the disney fans on this page, I have a present for you, an awesome disney youtube playlist in order based on their order in the various movies. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD6AA542C5102306E&feature=mh_lolz
read the comment on it I wrote to get a more detailed explanation of why the music was so important to "disney magic"
 

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Vault101 said:
the problemw with being a studio like PIXAR is "good" somtimes isnt good enough
Pretty much this.

My wife and I went to see it. It was cute, and some parts were legitimately funny, but i honestly wished it was closers to what the trailer looked like.

It was by no means bad, but it certainly wasn't "How to Train Your Dragon." It was, after all is said and done, a decent family flick with a decent message. No harm no foul.
 

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BlumiereBleck said:
Can't a studio have a few bad movies? Pixar isn't the perfect movie company.
Sums it up pretty well, but I think it's because it's been happening more lately which is also understandable.
 

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It was alright. Not really a big fan of children's movies, so I probably won't see it again.

If someone were to ask me if they should see it, I would recommend Pixar's other stuff.

I don't remember who said this, but I agree with them on it: Brave would have been a better movie if it didn't involve magical bears.
 

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ZeroMachine said:
Are the friend I saw it with and I seriously the only people that fucking loved that movie?

Seriously, everyone else I know gave it a "meh", "decent", or were like you (sans the "losing faith in Pixar" because that's a silly sentiment that gets thrown around on these forums like food during a food fight.)

It's my 2nd favorite behind a tie between Wall-E and Up.
loved it dont know why people are knocking it /shrug
 

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Vault101 said:
the problemw with being a studio like PIXAR is "good" somtimes isnt good enough
This.

I'll admit I didn't care much for the story, but I figured the animation (dat hair), family dynamic, realistic characters and little touches more than made up for it. It's about as good as The Incredibles, I think. Not as great as WALL-E or Up, but I'm not worried.
 

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BNguyen said:
I didn't even want to see it from the first trailer, it looked pretty much like the old Disney films of a princess character wanting to prove she's better and thus wants more out of life. It didn't look creative and it felt tiring and boring.
I mean sure, I enjoyed a lot of the old Disney films because to me it did not feel cliched back then, but now, it seems that tired story arc is being used everywhere.
It isn't a Disney Princess movie.

http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/just-another-princess-movie/
 

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Monsters Inc and Finding Nemo are the only films I've thought were truly great. Their stories, like most kids films, are purely conceptual. Sure, the writing is good in many of them, but they're not really very creative.
 

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Tono Makt said:
BNguyen said:
I didn't even want to see it from the first trailer, it looked pretty much like the old Disney films of a princess character wanting to prove she's better and thus wants more out of life. It didn't look creative and it felt tiring and boring.
I mean sure, I enjoyed a lot of the old Disney films because to me it did not feel cliched back then, but now, it seems that tired story arc is being used everywhere.
It isn't a Disney Princess movie.

http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/just-another-princess-movie/
It doesn't matter where it came from it still uses that formula, and for the record, I didn't give away anything that they didn't already give in the trailers. So, no need for a spoilers alert.
 

Tono Makt

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BNguyen said:
Tono Makt said:
BNguyen said:
I didn't even want to see it from the first trailer, it looked pretty much like the old Disney films of a princess character wanting to prove she's better and thus wants more out of life. It didn't look creative and it felt tiring and boring.
I mean sure, I enjoyed a lot of the old Disney films because to me it did not feel cliched back then, but now, it seems that tired story arc is being used everywhere.
It isn't a Disney Princess movie.

http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/just-another-princess-movie/
It doesn't matter where it came from it still uses that formula, and for the record, I didn't give away anything that they didn't already give in the trailers. So, no need for a spoilers alert.
Dude, it uses the princess movie formula in the same way that Stephen Colbert uses the O`Reilly Factor formula. It takes the formula and makes something new. It tosses out the typical cues - Princess is a master horsewoman and archer - and puts the princess in a situation where those have little value. It tosses in a witch... who is neither evil nor scheming, and who gives the princess exactly what she asked for. AND gives her a way to change her mind. (she also keeps the last end of the bargain she made with the princess in a hidden gem of a scene after the credits) It gives a monstrous enemy that threatens the princess... and neither the princess nor any of her suitors defeat the enemy; someone else does. It doesn't have a wicked stepmother, or a grieving father, or someone trying to hurt the princess for their own gain. It doesn't have anyone who thinks the princess is incapable and so has to prove herself to them. All of the peril that the princess was in was entirely her fault - and beyond the monstrous enemy (who is more red-herring and metaphor than actual enemy), everyone in the movie would move heaven and earth to help her if she could think of a way to ask them.

In short? It's not a Disney Princess, nor any other typical Princess movie.


And the spoiler alert was for the link I provided, not for your post.
 

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Tono Makt said:
BNguyen said:
Tono Makt said:
BNguyen said:
I didn't even want to see it from the first trailer, it looked pretty much like the old Disney films of a princess character wanting to prove she's better and thus wants more out of life. It didn't look creative and it felt tiring and boring.
I mean sure, I enjoyed a lot of the old Disney films because to me it did not feel cliched back then, but now, it seems that tired story arc is being used everywhere.
It isn't a Disney Princess movie.

http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/just-another-princess-movie/
It doesn't matter where it came from it still uses that formula, and for the record, I didn't give away anything that they didn't already give in the trailers. So, no need for a spoilers alert.
Dude, it uses the princess movie formula in the same way that Stephen Colbert uses the O`Reilly Factor formula. It takes the formula and makes something new. It tosses out the typical cues - Princess is a master horsewoman and archer - and puts the princess in a situation where those have little value. It tosses in a witch... who is neither evil nor scheming, and who gives the princess exactly what she asked for. AND gives her a way to change her mind. (she also keeps the last end of the bargain she made with the princess in a hidden gem of a scene after the credits) It gives a monstrous enemy that threatens the princess... and neither the princess nor any of her suitors defeat the enemy; someone else does. It doesn't have a wicked stepmother, or a grieving father, or someone trying to hurt the princess for their own gain. It doesn't have anyone who thinks the princess is incapable and so has to prove herself to them. All of the peril that the princess was in was entirely her fault - and beyond the monstrous enemy (who is more red-herring and metaphor than actual enemy), everyone in the movie would move heaven and earth to help her if she could think of a way to ask them.

In short? It's not a Disney Princess, nor any other typical Princess movie.


And the spoiler alert was for the link I provided, not for your post.
it still doesn't sound at all interesting, it just sounds like Jasmine or Ariel with more independent attitudes. The witch, although having no ill intentions still sounds like Ursula, the monster threat kind of sounds like Jafar, because Aladdin doesn't really defeat him, Jafar defeats himself with his own wish.
And based on what you're giving me, it sounds almost exactly like the movie Soul Surfer - a girl who's practically on top of the world with her position, puts herself at risk by surfing in shark infested waters, has to undergo a change from herself before to herself after (no change really except learn how to surf with one arm), and everyone in the movie wants her to get over her depression (she treats it like she has it the worst out of everyone). In short, if it reminds me of a terrible movie, odds are that I won't find it interesting.
 

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Shia-Neko-Chan said:
Keoul said:
After so many movies they're gunna run out of ideas, that or they're making something big, and brave was just to keep you guys occupied for a while like an entree before a main meal. Personally I don't mind a few bad movies if it's overshadowed by the amazing ones.

That would be consolation, but Wreck-it Ralph is actually not Pixar, but Disney's in-house animation studio. The same one that did Tangled.

Pixar's next movie is actually Monsters University.
I'm not expecting much from this film. The moment I saw the ghost, some street fighter characters, and Bowser, I was instantly turned off from this movie.
 

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I haven't yet seen this (taking the girlfriend to see it Wednesday) but think about it - Pixar has used the same story three times (the Toy Story films. Don't tell me they're entirely different because they're really not) but each time it's been given a different spin so it feels completely new, which just goes to show how creative their studio is.

Brave is using a formula that has proven great for kids in the past, but is using medieval Scotland and a female protagonist (not used before by Pixar) which shows SOME originality.

At least it can't be worse than the Cars films or WALL-E (WALL-E was okay, but nothing happened. It was an hour and a half of a robot running around with an eco message shoved down my throat).
 

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I thought it was incredible. Its storytelling was amazing from a technical standpoint and everything in the story actually made sense. I found it avoided cliches and deus ex machina's unlike Tangled and had a very realistic family dynamic.