Playstation 3, another lost feature.

[Silva]

incessant whining

So basically you want the company AND the consumer to pay out the ass for features that the vast majority will never even look at just because there's a remote possibility that someone out there might use it one day?
What kind of fantasy world do you live in where everyone is rich upper class kids that have mommy and daddy buy their expensive toys for them all the time?

No one's paying any more or less for Linux functionality, as it was a feature that was in the original PS3 model. Do you really think that Sony would lower the price of the console after removing the feature? How naive.

 

[shadow skill]

The point here is that they aren't making new units that don't have new functionality, they are reducing the functionality for already existing units. You don't see car manufacturers trying to ban the tools necessary to disassemble a vehicle because some people into modding cars drag race. You don't see Microsoft removing nic card support from their OS because some people do bad things with the internet. Yet we see Sony removing functionality (Linux support.)from already purchased systems because some people might do bad things with it.

 

[Rancid0ffspring]

SNIP

Trust me, it was only the original 60's that had all the mentioned features. I think you are getting a lot of flak for creating this thread that you really don't deserve. Sorry that I nit picked with the "thousand" remark.

On the flip side of the removal of features it has had a hell of a lot of things added especially in the last 6 months or so. Store has become better, it now has iPlayer...

hmmm lots of things... erm can't think of anything else

 

[Silva]

He, nor I in this specific post, was not talking about linux exclusively. Rather EVERY removed feature. Because a hurr hur hurrr DEY REMOVED IT AND WE DESERVE IT.

Some of us are power users, and we like having all possible features. Some of us also have principles, and believe that advertising a product as better than it will be, then removing six features over the course of three years, is contrary to good company ethics. I happen to fall into both of those sections, and I'm not the only one.

There's no reason not to have a variation of the PS3 on the market that costs slightly more but has all six of these features. The old 80GB at least should never have been removed from the shelves. There was simply no reason to do it.

 

[Snotnarok]

incessant whining

So basically you want the company AND the consumer to pay out the ass for features that the vast majority will never even look at just because there's a remote possibility that someone out there might use it one day?
What kind of fantasy world do you live in where everyone is rich upper class kids that have mommy and daddy buy their expensive toys for them all the time?

What is it with you people and being unbelievably rude to me? I know how unreasonable that I a consumer ask for sony to make an option for the many people who enjoyed the backwards compatibility function they used in the PS3 originally. Having two models is unreasonable I know like the PSP3001, PSPGo and the upcoming PSP handheld. How absurd the thought.

Do me a favor, next time you want to insult me, think about being more creative like calling me a doodie head.

And where did this mommy buying my consoles come up? Are you insulting kids now that can't get a job to buy their consoles? I bought all 21 of mine, so if you're going to call me out, at least have your facts straight friend

 

[Snotnarok]

SNIP

Trust me, it was only the original 60's that had all the mentioned features. I think you are getting a lot of flak for creating this thread that you really don't deserve. Sorry that I nit picked with the "thousand" remark.

On the flip side of the removal of features it has had a hell of a lot of things added especially in the last 6 months or so. Store has become better, it now has iPlayer...

hmmm lots of things... erm can't think of anything else

Yeah this is the first time I've gotten flack for making a DISCUSSION. Honestly you'd think I made a topic on why the PS3 is crap.

I love the PS3s games and all that but I'd like to see some of the options featured maybe in a perhaps optional model that you pay more for. Because they're options that I think many users want, well the backwards compatibility anyway.

Either way, if anyone else wants to call me spoiled for wanting more features on a console be sure to sure to check how much I care about your opinion, just about as much as you care about mine sums it up apparently.

Edit: I just wanted to make sure and refresh the page to check if I was still on the escpaist, the friendly community I joined and loved, not GameFAQs where people attack each other because seriously I'm getting a lot of flack for a discussion on the escapist. GROW UP PEOPLE ITS ALL OPINIONS AND WE ALL HAVE ONE, NO ONE IS RIGHT AND WRONG, that's why they call it a discussion.

 

[shadow skill]

He, nor I in this specific post, was not talking about linux exclusively. Rather EVERY removed feature. Because a hurr hur hurrr DEY REMOVED IT AND WE DESERVE IT.

Some of us are power users, and we like having all possible features. Some of us also have principles, and believe that advertising a product as better than it will be, then removing six features over the course of three years, is contrary to good company ethics. I happen to fall into both of those sections, and I'm not the only one.

There's no reason not to have a variation of the PS3 on the market that costs slightly more but has all six of these features. The old 80GB at least should never have been removed from the shelves. There was simply no reason to do it.

There is. It's called money. When they were producing the old PS3s they were losing money even at the costs they were selling them at. That's why they cut things like the backwards compatibility and continued to cut things. They wanted to make some fucking profit. You get what they advertise and what you pay for. The slim for example doesn't tell you that it plays ps2 games, it tells you exactly what it does. There is no deceptive marketing or anything going on. You're being an over entitled brat.

None of that has anything to do with the overall topic or the subject of offering two models one with more (or slightly different) functionality than the other. I can't remember the last time I encountered any electronics that lost overall functionality over time without the older models not being sold along side the less functional ones. Nor do I remember electronic devices being retroactively downgraded because of exploits that could not be remotely executed.

incessant whining

So basically you want the company AND the consumer to pay out the ass for features that the vast majority will never even look at just because there's a remote possibility that someone out there might use it one day?
What kind of fantasy world do you live in where everyone is rich upper class kids that have mommy and daddy buy their expensive toys for them all the time?

What is it with you people and being unbelievably rude to me? I know how unreasonable that I a consumer ask for sony to make an option for the many people who enjoyed the backwards compatibility function they used in the PS3 originally. Having two models is unreasonable I know like the PSP3001, PSPGo and the upcoming PSP handheld. How absurd the thought.

Do me a favor, next time you want to insult me, think about being more creative like calling me a doodie head.

And where did this mommy buying my consoles come up? Are you insulting kids now that can't get a job to buy their consoles? I bought all 21 of mine, so if you're going to call me out, at least have your facts straight friend

Oh lawdy, people are being wude to you. You're being a little childish brat but still expect everyone to get on their knees and kiss your feet. Really, what kind of fucking world do you live in? If you want people to be polite to you, be polite yourself first. Nothing you post deserves respect, it's just whining about how you deserve more for no reason. You want a company to make something that would cause them to lose money and cost an insane amount to purchase, the very same thing that very few people originally bought because it was an expensive thing.
As for where mommy buying consoles came up, stop assuming everything is a personal attack on you. You really have a massive persecution complex where you assume everyone is out to get you. It came up because it is absolutely Ab-fucking-surd to expect the average consumer, anyone who isn't rich or insane or perhaps a spoiled brat who has spineless parents, to be able to afford what you want because of how fucking expensive they are and would have to be to prevent sony from losing money on them.

How does this logic explain the PSPgo? A version of the PSP that is too expensive and not really as good as the earlier models? People were saying it was going to bomb when the price was announced and what do you know that is exactly what it is doing. If people don't want to buy something they simply won't do it. Saying that they should offer a model that has everything isn't expecting the consumer to do anything at all.

I say similar things about the 360 mainly because the arcade is a "fake" choice. Not only that most of the units being bought are the ones that come with the HDD unit.

 

[OptimalPrime]

the .01% that actually use linux will be hurt but come on, who gives a hoot?

 

[Snotnarok]

incessant whining

So basically you want the company AND the consumer to pay out the ass for features that the vast majority will never even look at just because there's a remote possibility that someone out there might use it one day?
What kind of fantasy world do you live in where everyone is rich upper class kids that have mommy and daddy buy their expensive toys for them all the time?

What is it with you people and being unbelievably rude to me? I know how unreasonable that I a consumer ask for sony to make an option for the many people who enjoyed the backwards compatibility function they used in the PS3 originally. Having two models is unreasonable I know like the PSP3001, PSPGo and the upcoming PSP handheld. How absurd the thought.

Do me a favor, next time you want to insult me, think about being more creative like calling me a doodie head.

And where did this mommy buying my consoles come up? Are you insulting kids now that can't get a job to buy their consoles? I bought all 21 of mine, so if you're going to call me out, at least have your facts straight friend

Oh lawdy, people are being wude to you. You're being a little childish brat but still expect everyone to get on their knees and kiss your feet. Really, what kind of fucking world do you live in? If you want people to be polite to you, be polite yourself first. Nothing you post deserves respect, it's just whining about how you deserve more for no reason. You want a company to make something that would cause them to lose money and cost an insane amount to purchase, the very same thing that very few people originally bought because it was an expensive thing.
As for where mommy buying consoles came up, stop assuming everything is a personal attack on you. You really have a massive persecution complex where you assume everyone is out to get you. It came up because it is absolutely Ab-fucking-surd to expect the average consumer, anyone who isn't rich or insane or perhaps a spoiled brat who has spineless parents, to be able to afford what you want because of how fucking expensive they are and would have to be to prevent sony from losing money on them.

You're an arrogant rude member of gamefaqs the Escapist aren't you?

I'm twenty four buddy, and I'm not the one acting like a four year old and getting all bent out of shape because someone disagrees with me. Sine you're SO instant on this, I bought my all my consoles and games ,I wasn't fortunate enough to have that bought for me nada one so now that's out of the way.

What is unreasonable to you about a company making a economy model and a upgraded model because everyone from Dell(Dell, XPS), to apple(Ipod 8gb,32gb,64gb), to Sony(PSP,PSPGo) does, even nintendo does it, it's called expanding your product/market. I wasn't saying shove the features back in and charge an arm and leg for it, and if you took 5 seconds to read my post and perhaps understand it instead of trying to poorly insult me you'd see that I said two models, one with said features and one without, both with different price tags so sony can make their money.

 

[King Kupofried]

LordNue your posts are incredibly embarrassing to read which is a real shame because somewhere deep down inside them you seem to have a point you are trying to express. If you want to make a point about people feeling they deserve something compared to a company's ability to make a profit then do so by all means. You don't need to resort to tossing petty baseless insults at a man trying to bring up a discussion from the perspective that he sees.

 

[Blanks]

I have a working PS2, a computer and a PS3 slim ... i have no need for the OS or backwards compatibility so it doesn't bother me at all that these aren't available anymore

 

[Snotnarok]

incessant whining

So basically you want the company AND the consumer to pay out the ass for features that the vast majority will never even look at just because there's a remote possibility that someone out there might use it one day?
What kind of fantasy world do you live in where everyone is rich upper class kids that have mommy and daddy buy their expensive toys for them all the time?

What is it with you people and being unbelievably rude to me? I know how unreasonable that I a consumer ask for sony to make an option for the many people who enjoyed the backwards compatibility function they used in the PS3 originally. Having two models is unreasonable I know like the PSP3001, PSPGo and the upcoming PSP handheld. How absurd the thought.

Do me a favor, next time you want to insult me, think about being more creative like calling me a doodie head.

And where did this mommy buying my consoles come up? Are you insulting kids now that can't get a job to buy their consoles? I bought all 21 of mine, so if you're going to call me out, at least have your facts straight friend

Oh lawdy, people are being wude to you. You're being a little childish brat but still expect everyone to get on their knees and kiss your feet. Really, what kind of fucking world do you live in? If you want people to be polite to you, be polite yourself first. Nothing you post deserves respect, it's just whining about how you deserve more for no reason. You want a company to make something that would cause them to lose money and cost an insane amount to purchase, the very same thing that very few people originally bought because it was an expensive thing.
As for where mommy buying consoles came up, stop assuming everything is a personal attack on you. You really have a massive persecution complex where you assume everyone is out to get you. It came up because it is absolutely Ab-fucking-surd to expect the average consumer, anyone who isn't rich or insane or perhaps a spoiled brat who has spineless parents, to be able to afford what you want because of how fucking expensive they are and would have to be to prevent sony from losing money on them.

You're an arrogant rude member of gamefaqs the Escapist aren't you?

I'm twenty four buddy, and I'm not the one acting like a four year old and getting all bent out of shape because someone disagrees with me. Sine you're SO instant on this, I bought my all my consoles and games ,I wasn't fortunate enough to have that bought for me nada one so now that's out of the way.

What is unreasonable to you about a company making a economy model and a upgraded model because everyone from Dell(Dell, XPS), to apple(Ipod 8gb,32gb,64gb), to Sony(PSP,PSPGo) does, even nintendo does it, it's called expanding your product/market. I wasn't saying shove the features back in and charge an arm and leg for it, and if you took 5 seconds to read my post and perhaps understand it instead of trying to poorly insult me you'd see that I said two models, one with said features and one without, both with different price tags so sony can make their money.

Sparky, I believe you're an adult. I didn't say you were a child. I said you were acting like a spoiled brat. You can be an adult and act more immature then a child. Which you are right now, you're acting like the kid throwing a temper tantrum in the mall.
It's not unreasonable for other things. It's unreasonable for the ps3 because sony was losing money on the older models of the ps3. That was why they started trimming them down in the first place. To make profit they would most likely have to make it cost more then it did on release which would be insane which would be insane and even people who like the idea wouldn't buy it because they'd rather buy something feasible with the ridiculous amount of money it would cost.

Oh and just because you say everyone who disagrees with you "Gets bent out of shape" doesn't make it true. You should stop saying it, you've said it to almost everyone who's disagreed with you thus far.

I'm glad for you that you've still yet to read what I posted. It's called a different model, the more expensive version with more features something as I said before MANY companies do. I'm well aware of Sony not making money on their system that's the same story since the PS2 and it's amazing to see a company do such a thing. They don't lose money if they charge more for an alternative model, which is what I'm saying would be a neat idea.

The only thing I've done is post a discussion about something for people to discuss, I posted my opinion which is me being unhappy about that they're doing this. If you or anyone else feels differently then I don't really care, that's YOUR choice. Only I'm not going around mocking everyone for it. Do what you want with your money, I'd like to have a different model to put my coins into and if you think my opinion is stupid then go ahead and think that seriously.

I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, the only people I've responded to are the ones who are mocking me like you, because that's what you're doing, mocking me for my opinion and honestly the only reason I'm responding is because I think it's hilarious how you probably don't even realize you're doing it. I came to the escapist under the assumption that it's not GameFAQs where people mock eachother and do not respect each others opinions.

If someone doesn't care the PS3 is missing these features then it's their opinion and they have their reasons and that's fine it's their house, their money. Much Like I have my opinion and I'd like to see Sony release a PS3 with more features with a bigger price tag, because if my PS3 breaks I cannot use the functions that I use. If they don't because there's not enough demand, then oh well, I'll have suck it up and use my PS2 that I've got in storage. It just becomes cumbersome to have 35 systems on your wall because of a feature they they subtracted.

Because I'm sure someone will over analyze that statement, I mean I have a lot of consoles because I collect them.

 

[Plurralbles]

well, considering that you can write a program for a linux PS3... they REALLY cut off a LOT of potential off the system. FUCK YOU SONY.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

I never used it and I don't really give a shit?

You're acting as if they took a vital part of your console away, which they didn't.

this. i hadn't heard about it for the longest time and even then only maybe one in 100000000 people talked about it, so obviously its for the about 20 people who possibly pirate or w/e with linux, so just give it a rest already

this thread was done earlier by an even more annoying person, so i know you didn't know that but just stating people knew about this already (probably or possibly, so search bar not approved)