PlayStation CEO Hopes 2008 Was "As Bad As it Gets"

[Treblaine]

To summarise, Sony have a new IP that Rockstar says is better than GTA, a better version of Tomb Raider, an exclusive from Capcom, 3 excusive Final Fantasy's, and are still sitting on the best internal development team in the industry, while the 360's exclusives are dropping like flies. Bravo, you just managed to completely misrepresent whats actually happening. Sony just took Bioware away from Microsoft, what does that tell you? They are trying to be the generic brand Sony, but can't because they're just npot smart enough - every time they try to take one of Sony's games, they show off two more.

Are you implying that Uncharted is somehow a replacement for or is *Better* than Tomb Raider? You clearly were never a Tomb Raider fan and I'm sorry but I found Drake the most annoying video game character of this generation and the gameplay honestly falls WAY short even if you don't look at it as Tomb Raider-esque.

3 exclusive Final Fantasies?
First of all, Final Fantasy XIV is Online which I could not give a crap about (MMORPGs are just grind grind grind and no story) and Sony pulled a bit of an MGS: Rising with this one, Square Enix has not confirmed that it will be PS3 exclusive, they are already co-releasing on Microsoft Windows. They only said "coming out for PS3".
Err, the other 2... let me think... Final Fantasy Verses XIII, that is just a spin off and has been stated to have nothing to do with the plot of FF13 and is going to be a lot like Dirge of Cerberus... I'm not going to hold my breath for this title. 3rd one... I really had to do research for this one and the only SONY exclusive I can find is Final Fantasy Agitas XIII... for the PSP. Right. And for those two, to spite FF13 being released in less than 6 months there is no Gameplay footage for any of these games or a release date. Who wants to bet we'll still be waiting by E3 2010?

And that Capcom exclusive is a complete rumour plus considering how Capcom have been recently in terms of Bionic Commando, RE5, DMC4 and how they have fired all their top talent who made RE4, and DMC1... the rumour does not fill me with hope for my PS3. Plus every time Sony gets their exclusive hands on something they insist on screwing it up.

I would have it disagree with you on the best internal development team in the industry... but then we would get into an argument of taste and trying to quantify quality... which is pointless really.

"360's exclusives are dropping like flies"

This just doesn't make sense, Dead Rising 2 is the only franchise (that I care about) that has gone multiplatform when it had previously been 360 exclusive, and Dead Rising 1 was only 360 exclusive because it came out before the PS3 had even been released. Lost Planet 2 was never claimed to be exclusive, which is why I am so wary of Sony's implication that FF14 is and always will be PS3 exclusive.


However... to spite all this I am still not selling my PS3... why?

Agent.

Rockstar North, they have made nothing but solid gold, but I pray to god that Sony doesn't fuck this one up like they do for almost everything else. Actually, they kinda already did, they announce it with absolutely no details, not a screen shot or even a genre whether it is sandbox/linear/first person. Yet at the same E3 they announce another PS3 exclusive with a completely distinguishable name... The Agency... W. T. F...
Except this is an MMO made by the Everquest guys, and screen-shots have been released and now associated with Agent. Lets just hope this isn't handled like most PS3 exclusives where it spends an interminable period in development. I mean there were three consecutive E3s where Killzone 2 gameplay footage was shown, and it was supposed to be a PS3 launch title. Now look at it... outsold by Littlebigplanet.

 

[Pendragon9]

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Considering that my Ps3 works on a lower definition TV and still looks great, I'm afraid I can't take your words seriously.

And considering you're just saying all first party games are crap, I'm quite surprised you would say such a thing.

50 million people bought PSPs, 24 million bought Ps3's. And I'm sure they aren't disappointed.

Again, not insulting you, but I think you should reconsider your bias. Even if the PS3 never outsells it's competitors, it made a wonderful amount of games in the process. Kinda like the Dreamcast.

Say it all you want, but the point of the consoles are to make games and bring people joy. That's what the Ps3 did, thus it wins like the other consoles.

End of argument.

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You're obviously misinformed-I know it's not everyone's opinion, however it IS fact. The popularity, consistency and general quality of the games aren't of the high standards people expect.

Did I mention Microsoft? No. Stop dragging your fanboy drivel into this. Yeah, they're losing money, but guess what-I don't care about that either. They should make a less flimsy console next time around.

So a popularity contest of which console is better automatically makes fact? I feel sorry for you if you believe that.

 

[nova18]

I read through every post on this thread and can honestly say around about half of the posts were flat out retarded. Especially the ones who were complaing about how the PS3 doesnt just play games...

But I just spent the last 4 hours playing Prototype, Infamous and Disgaea 3. Which was awesome.

Then I went on HOME to quickly meet a friend, because it was better than phoning him or messaging, plus we played Poker. Which was awesome.

Then I watched Mallrats, on DVD. Which was also awesome.

I quickly used the PS3 Internet browser to check my bank balance and Facebook, because I was too lazy to turn on my laptop. It was awesome.

Then I read a book. With background music coming from my PS3.[small]It was double awesome.[/small]

 

[Jumplion]

But I just spent the last 4 hours playing Prototype, Infamous and Disgaea 3. Which was awesome.

How's Disgaea 3, I've been thinking of getting it.

 

[nova18]

Very good.
I was suprised at the graphics, not as updated as I'd liked but its still Disgaea. Combat is still the same with a few extra flourishes and the cutscenes are nicely done and pretty funny.

I would definetely recommend it to any fans, but if your not into strategy or RPG then its probably going to be annoying.


Also, music is cool as hell

 

[Treblaine]

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Considering that my Ps3 works on a lower definition TV and still looks great, I'm afraid I can't take your words seriously.

And considering you're just saying all first party games are crap, I'm quite surprised you would say such a thing.

50 million people bought PSPs, 24 million bought Ps3's. And I'm sure they aren't disappointed.

Again, not insulting you, but I think you should reconsider your bias. Even if the PS3 never outsells it's competitors, it made a wonderful amount of games in the process. Kinda like the Dreamcast.

Say it all you want, but the point of the consoles are to make games and bring people joy. That's what the Ps3 did, thus it wins like the other consoles.

End of argument.

Loads of people went to see Transformers 2... that doesn't make it a good movie. I didn't bring up number of sales quite simply because they are irrelevant. Millions of people will buy into crap and never complain, but are they getting the best they could? Probably they don't even want to know. It is a bit of buyer's regret and part Cognitive dissonance, people spending $400-$600 on a product means it would just be too painful to realise they got short changed so do not seek out information about their bad decision and are more likely to dismiss information that indicates the failure of prophecy.

I used to be Biased, I used to be a terrible PS3 fanboy and saw Xbox 360 as just some jazzed up 6th gen machine, just Xbox 1.5 that could only compete with the PS2. I believed the corporate propaganda, paid up and it was years before I finally bothered to see what the competition was offering.

I am one of those 22 million people who bought a PS3 (don't know where you got the figure of 24 millions PS3's sold)... and was disappointed.

I now realise that Sony has shown a complete lack of focus, effectiveness or vision. In fact they have been rotten for a while that I think can be traced back to the PS2's absolutely record breaking success that injected a fatal sense of hubris into the corporation and finally culminated in the "2006/2007 SCEI management shuffle" that gave us Tretton and Hirai.

I mean statements like "the next generation doesn't start till we say so" and "just work a couple more hours per week" show how incredibly out of touch they are.

Ken Kutaragi, the Father of Playstation, basically invented a new demographic of young adult gamers that revolutionised the industry forever. But when he made a speech criticising DRM methods used by Sony as harming the consumer, Sony removed him from Presidency and eventually forced him into retirement... for opposing DRM.

I don't know where Microsoft gets the reputation for being the big bad corporation when Sony Corp gets away with crap like this.

And I'm sorry but "wonderful little console" is not the prophecy that was foretold. Was it really that long ago? Do you not remember the hype for the PS3? if people had know the best you could say about it in 2009 is it's "Kinda like the Dreamcast" people would never have spent $600 on it.

As to the 50 millions PSPs sold in 5 years... yet PSP games hardly even break into the top 30 of game sales yet DS games regularly do all the way to the top 10. Why? Perhaps they are like me, I have a PSP and it has been in my desk draw for the past few months as I have yet to find a decent game for it. Or maybe they are like my friend, he doesn't buy games just loads custom firmware to get around all the restrictions that Sony Corp imposed on him, basically run it like a mini computer to play retro rom games via an emulator. I just have too look in any game store by the amount of shelf space the PSP takes up... not a lot.

Oh yeah, and if you think a 720p game on a HDTV look just as good on a regular analogue TV with 480 interlaced lines and likely via composite video (hardly any regular SDTVs have component input) then you are very naive and pretty biased. I think you would only say an SDTV "looks great" because the PS3 has such a dependence on expensive HDTVs.

 

[AceDiamond]

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Considering that my Ps3 works on a lower definition TV and still looks great, I'm afraid I can't take your words seriously.

And considering you're just saying all first party games are crap, I'm quite surprised you would say such a thing.

50 million people bought PSPs, 24 million bought Ps3's. And I'm sure they aren't disappointed.

Again, not insulting you, but I think you should reconsider your bias. Even if the PS3 never outsells it's competitors, it made a wonderful amount of games in the process. Kinda like the Dreamcast.

Say it all you want, but the point of the consoles are to make games and bring people joy. That's what the Ps3 did, thus it wins like the other consoles.

End of argument.

Loads of people went to see Transformers 2... that doesn't make it a good movie. I didn't bring up number of sales quite simply because they are irrelevant. Millions of people will buy into crap and never complain, but are they getting the best they could? Probably they don't even want to know. It is a bit of buyer's regret and part Cognitive dissonance, people spending $400-$600 on a product means it would just be too painful to realise they got short changed so do not seek out information about their bad decision and are more likely to dismiss information that indicates the failure of prophecy.

I used to be Biased, I used to be a terrible PS3 fanboy and saw Xbox 360 as just some jazzed up 6th gen machine, just Xbox 1.5 that could only compete with the PS2. I believed the corporate propaganda, paid up and it was years before I finally bothered to see what the competition was offering.

I am one of those 22 million people who bought a PS3 (don't know where you got the figure of 24 millions PS3's sold)... and was disappointed.

I now realise that Sony has shown a complete lack of focus, effectiveness or vision. In fact they have been rotten for a while that I think can be traced back to the PS2's absolutely record breaking success that injected a fatal sense of hubris into the corporation and finally culminated in the "2006/2007 SCEI management shuffle" that gave us Tretton and Hirai.

I mean statements like "the next generation doesn't start till we say so" and "just work a couple more hours per week" show how incredibly out of touch they are.

Ken Kutaragi, the Father of Playstation, basically invented a new demographic of young adult gamers that revolutionised the industry forever. But when he made a speech criticising DRM methods used by Sony as harming the consumer, Sony removed him from Presidency and eventually forced him into retirement... for opposing DRM.

I don't know where Microsoft gets the reputation for being the big bad corporation when Sony Corp gets away with crap like this.

And I'm sorry but "wonderful little console" is not the prophecy that was foretold. Was it really that long ago? Do you not remember the hype for the PS3? if people had know the best you could say about it in 2009 is it's "Kinda like the Dreamcast" people would never have spent $600 on it.

As to the 50 millions PSPs sold in 5 years... yet PSP games hardly even break into the top 30 of game sales yet DS games regularly do all the way to the top 10. Why? Perhaps they are like me, I have a PSP and it has been in my desk draw for the past few months as I have yet to find a decent game for it. Or maybe they are like my friend, he doesn't buy games just loads custom firmware to get around all the restrictions that Sony Corp imposed on him, basically run it like a mini computer to play retro rom games via an emulator. I just have too look in any game store by the amount of shelf space the PSP takes up... not a lot.

hear hear. Although admittedly my route of disliking Sony as a whole came from things like their music arm being draconian and their computer tech support being stupid, and the actions of SCEA and Sony's marketing gaffes were just the icing on the cake that made me stick with my PS2 and not move forward.

Also, it's important to realize that the PS2 was advertised as a games console, wheras the PSP and PS3 have consistently been advertised as doing things other than that. To the point where they even had ads for the PS3 wherin a guy attempts to tell his girlfriend it's his new movie downloading machine instead of a game console. What does that even mean? That it's emasculating to own such a thing?

Does the PS3 have good games? yes. I'm not arguing that. What I am arguing is that Jack Tretton and the rest of the people in charge of Sony do not see the PS3 as such, instead trying to use it to force the Blu-Ray format on a world that has not adopted HD as a standard yet, and are probably not going to do so given how the economy is still in shambles. And that decision has and will continue to cost them dearly.

 

[Goldbling]

I really don't think there's going to be a big issue with Sony making a decent profit this year. I mean, the one complaint that I've always heard from people has been that the PS3 doesn't have enough games to warrant buying it. But, with recent releases, and the amazing amount of upcoming releases in the remainder of this year and next, I feel pretty confident in saying that the PS3 is going to see a marked increase in sales.

Which is good for everyone, I think.

But on the other hand, the other consoles get more games as well.

I'm still thinking of getting one (PS3) so it's nice to know wether or not to wait for a price cut.

I don't know. Stuff like inFamous, Resistance: Fall of Man and Resistance 2, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4, Killzone 2, and upcoming titles like Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, Heavy Rain, God of War 3, The Last Guardian, and the exclusive Joker content for Batman: Arkham Asylum are all exclusive titles for the PS3 only. Those are all some really big name games, and, though I admit to not doing a ton of research on it, the only exclusive title for the 360 that I've heard any hype about lately has been Halo 3: ODST.

I don't enjoy the whole exclusive debate, but I do see the point that it has from an economic standpoint, and, as far as the PS3 is concerned, they are pretty set for the foreseeable future in that regard.

The PS3 is losing exclusives as well, like FF13 and MGS.

 

[Jumplion]

The PS3 is losing exclusives as well, like FF13 and MGS.

FF13 was ages ago, we got over it, and FF13 Versus and Agito for PSP are exclusive to PS3 (so far). MGS: Rising has Raiden in it, which for some reason people hate, and Kojima isn't very involved in it and is more involved in the PSP game MGS: Peacewalker.

I don't care how fanboyish that sounded, I'm just sayin'.

 

[Pendragon9]

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Wow. The second you started defending Microsoft I just tuned you out. I refuse to listen to bantering about someone saying that once again Microsoft is the innocent child while Sony is the evil one.

Come back when you have a legitimate reason for hating the PS3. You damn fanboy. Because constantly I ask for legitimate reasons why they don't like the PS3 and why Sony is the evil company here. Yet you all skip the question and go right into your "predictions" for what will happen. Why is it so hard to think up something to hate about the PS3? Oh yeah, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BAD CONSOLE.

Ooh, a hundred bucks more. Get over it.
Ooh, three less exclusives. There are still a hundred or so games to choose from! So pick one.

I'm sickened. This is why I don't want a 360 or a Wii. Because of the horrible fanbases.

 

[ActualOvaltine]

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Wow. The second you started defending Microsoft I just tuned you out. I refuse to listen to bantering about someone saying that once again Microsoft is the innocent child while Sony is the evil one.

Come back when you have a legitimate reason for hating the PS3. You damn fanboy. Because constantly I ask for legitimate reasons why they don't like the PS3 and why Sony is the evil company here. Yet you all skip the question and go right into your "predictions" for what will happen. Why is it so hard to think up something to hate about the PS3? Oh yeah, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BAD CONSOLE.

Ooh, a hundred bucks more. Get over it.
Ooh, three less exclusives. There are still a hundred or so games to choose from! So pick one.

I'm sickened. This is why I don't want a 360 or a Wii. Because of the horrible fanbases.

I agree that most fanboys have a hard time saying why the PS3 is bad, but lets call a spade a spade... The PS3 has just as many psychotic fanboys as Microsoft and the Wii. Is it a bad console? Heck no. The most limiting factor for most is just simply the price and out of all the bad stigmata to have, that's not one of the worst. Also, just because you buy a 360 or a Wii doesn't make you part of the fanboy club so don't be afraid to think, "God I want a Wii." It doesn't turn you red and Italian looking screaming, "THE WII IS DA GREATEST EVAR!!!."

 

[Treblaine]

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Wow. The second you started defending Microsoft I just tuned you out. I refuse to listen to bantering about someone saying that once again Microsoft is the innocent child while Sony is the evil one.

Come back when you have a legitimate reason for hating the PS3. You damn fanboy. Because constantly I ask for legitimate reasons why they don't like the PS3 and why Sony is the evil company here. Yet you all skip the question and go right into your "predictions" for what will happen. Why is it so hard to think up something to hate about the PS3? Oh yeah, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BAD CONSOLE.

Ooh, a hundred bucks more. Get over it.
Ooh, three less exclusives. There are still a hundred or so games to choose from! So pick one.

I'm sickened. This is why I don't want a 360 or a Wii. Because of the horrible fanbases.

Lot of talk, not a single valid point.

I mean the part when you said you "tuned out" as soon as it turned just to merely defending Microsoft, actively blocking out any information that challenges your opinions... yet you call ME a fanboy? Maybe if you didn't have such a closed mind you would realise I have already made plenty of legitimate reasons in my last post.

Don't forget buddy, we are the same, we are both PS3 owners. If you have a problem with my views, know that it was Sony who shaped them!

 

[Pendragon9]

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Wow. The second you started defending Microsoft I just tuned you out. I refuse to listen to bantering about someone saying that once again Microsoft is the innocent child while Sony is the evil one.

Come back when you have a legitimate reason for hating the PS3. You damn fanboy. Because constantly I ask for legitimate reasons why they don't like the PS3 and why Sony is the evil company here. Yet you all skip the question and go right into your "predictions" for what will happen. Why is it so hard to think up something to hate about the PS3? Oh yeah, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BAD CONSOLE.

Ooh, a hundred bucks more. Get over it.
Ooh, three less exclusives. There are still a hundred or so games to choose from! So pick one.

I'm sickened. This is why I don't want a 360 or a Wii. Because of the horrible fanbases.

Lot of talk, not a single valid point.

I mean the part when you said you "tuned out" as soon as it turned just to merely defending Microsoft, actively blocking out any information that challenges your opinions... yet you call ME a fanboy? Maybe if you didn't have such a closed mind you would realise I have already made plenty of legitimate reasons in my last post.

Don't forget buddy, we are the same, we are both PS3 owners. If you have a problem with my views, know that it was Sony who shaped them!

Actually, let me rephrase that. I read what you said, but when it turned into all out bashing of things Sony did YEARS ago, then I just simply stopped caring. They've learned from their mistakes and are trying to cater to the gamers.

But you ungrateful gamers want more and more. Backwards Compatibility, a three hundred dollar price drop, fifty million exclusives, a personal executive to come to your house and rock you to sleep everynight. Where does it end, I ask you?

And if they do cater to all the demands of the people on this site, guess what? Nobody will buy it. Nobody will hold to their promise of getting a PS3. Every person who said they would get a PS3 as soon as the price dropped is a flat out liar. They just want to complain because they obviously don't want to play the console they have at the moment, because apparently they need to be catered to at every whim.

see, that's the problem with gamers these days. They want everything and yet they're not willing to work for it. And frankly, I'd rather stop gaming altogether if these gamers comprise a majority of the fanbases.

Can't we agree to that at least? They could be doing better, but they're not doing too bad.

 

[Treblaine]

Actually, let me rephrase that. I read what you said, but when it turned into all out bashing of things Sony did YEARS ago, then I just simply stopped caring. They've learned from their mistakes and are trying to cater to the gamers.

But you ungrateful gamers want more and more. Backwards Compatibility, a three hundred dollar price drop, fifty million exclusives, a personal executive to come to your house and rock you to sleep everynight. Where does it end, I ask you?

And if they do cater to all the demands of the people on this site, guess what? Nobody will buy it. Nobody will hold to their promise of getting a PS3. Every person who said they would get a PS3 as soon as the price dropped is a flat out liar. They just want to complain because they obviously don't want to play the console they have at the moment, because apparently they need to be catered to at every whim.

see, that's the problem with gamers these days. They want everything and yet they're not willing to work for it. And frankly, I'd rather stop gaming altogether if these gamers comprise a majority of the fanbases.

Can't we agree to that at least? They could be doing better, but they're not doing too bad.

Let me just focus in on this:

"But you ungrateful gamers want more and more. Backwards Compatibility, a three hundred dollar price drop, fifty million exclusives, a personal executive to come to your house and rock you to sleep everynight. Where does it end, I ask you?"

Now that is an utterly ridiculous hyperbole, do you really thing you will ever garner any support for your argument with such nonsense. How about you face up to REAL issues that I have already brought up.

-Cost effective HD video: Xbox 360 has a solution but it is a bit too late for Sony to do anything about their PS3. There is complaining about what Sony could do, and then there is simply stating the fact of what they have done wrong. Their decision to implement such restrictive DRM on blu-ray locked out HD gaming on PS3 only to those rich enough to afford a decent HDTV.

-Loss of exclusives: People accepted the price of PS3 due to it's reputation for getting all the best exclusives, it FAILED to keep up that reputation and continues to fail, every year their most steadfast franchises desert from Sony exclusivity. Agent is the single solitary third party that is becoming exclusive for PS3 and we don't even have concept art. I mean we know more about the next Zelda game.

-Lower quality on PS3: this is a FACT, if you bother to do the research you will know it to be true, when it comes to multiplatform titles, far more often than not the PS3 version will have inferior performance to the 360 version. Why pay more for a console that delivers LESS?!?? More and more games are using the 360 as a lead console, it is a fact, Sony did not consider the importance of developers, and continue to neglect third parties. Even when PS3 is the lead console like Ghostbusters to spite having a 6 month lead in development time and was merely ported to 360, the 360 version was in 720p (2xAA), the PS3 version was only 960x540 resolution, inferior frame-rate and no-one can deny inferior model and texture detail as well as lacking many key graphical effect. The PS3 version was literally lower than Standard Def (European standard) and almost half the resolution of the 360 release.
So many developers have said the same thing, it is not that the Wii, PC or 360 are unusually easy to develop for... it is simply that the PS3 is HARD to develop for. Too hard for so many developers and it is not that they are lazy, it just takes so much more time, money and resources that it is not worth the investment.

-Online support: It is TERRIBLE in the UK and throughout Europe, unlike Wii or Xbox 360 or PC, PS3 locks out so much content to this region, no Movies, Tv series, short films, music, podcasts, or anything, just a couple of Movie Trailers... all for Sony owned movies. Game downloads are equally poor, so many great PS1 titles re-released on PSN in Japan can be downloaded to PSP... not for us bastard Europeans. And the service in general is terrible, any download is painfully slow, ANY other platform beats it and adding someone to your profile and communicating with them is buggy and literally takes weeks for messages to get through if they get through at all. Trying to meet up with them online has consistently refused to work.

These are just a few of the genuine issues I and I know many others have with the PS3, there are many more issues and the same goes for the PSP but this post is already getting too long.

You may not expect a lot from the PS3, but not all of use are so willing to lower our standards.

"bashing of things Sony did YEARS ago"

Yeah, 2007 was YEEEEEEAAARS ago, only technically. So I suppose there are no consequences for a company's actions after 2 years, everything just resets every year. Is that right?

 

[Pendragon9]

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1. My Ps3 did better than my friend's 360 when it came to HD, even on my crappy low res TV. So you're wrong about that being pure fact.

2. They still have exclusives. You're just too arrogant to like them. "zomg! They lost Metal Gear." Not one 360 fan likes Metal Gear, so who cares? Though I do expect any XBOX 360 fan to rate MGS Rising higher than MGS4. It's almost guaranteed.

Oh, and surprise surprise. Look at the page for Ps3 exclusives and multiplat titles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS3_games#D

Yes, it's Wikipedia, I know. But look at all those titles, a fourth of them already out. If you're not content with all those games, then you don't deserve a console.

3. I don't see any low quality. I enjoy my games on the Ps3. They work just fine. What, are you a graphics whore? Oh wait, yes you are.

4. For goodness sake, I don't see anything wrong with the PSN. It lags a bit, but I've seen far worse on other consoles.

So there. You're just trying to push your biased views on me. My PS3 obviously works differently than how you describe it.

So either you stop being so critical or I'll simply have to report you for trolling.

I despise fanboys who can't be happy with what they have.

And for the record, you still didn't give me a valid reason to hate the PS3. My online works fine, I'm glad with the games, and hell, I paid even more for it back then. So you younger kids are not allowed to complain.

You know what? Just sell your PS3 and stop complaining if it's so horrible. They practically go for 600-1000 dollars on Ebay, so you can have sex with the godly Xbox 360 and play a few games while you're at it. You say one or two games don't justify the purchase, so obviously you bought it for another reason. Yet you're not telling.

Yes, I know you're gonna call me immature for saying that, but after seeing half a forum full of posts like yours, I've lost my patience.

So next time if you want to respond to me, I want you to tell me why I should sell my Ps3. I love all the games, I hate paying for online, I love PSN, and I see almost no difference in quality between multiplat games. Only losers would strain so hard to find a difference.

So do go on and amuse me. And if you accuse me of being a Sony fanboy, then keep in mind that such a response is only for when you don't have any witty retorts.

Oh great. I have a headache. Remind me to teach you some more once I get some aspirin.

 

[TundraWolf]

The PS3 is losing exclusives as well, like FF13 and MGS.

Fair enough. But can you list more than five XBox exclusives that are coming out in the near future? Because I can only give you a handful: Halo 3: ODST, Dead Rising 2 and Crackdown 2. Everything else that is making big waves these days are either PS3 exclusives, PC gaming products, or multi-platform releases. Yes, even stuff like Mass Effect is now expanding to the PS3. Meanwhile, I could probably list you double-digits worth of exciting exclusive titles for the PS3 that are going to be released in the near future.

So while I do see the point that the PS3 is losing exclusives, it still has a plethora of them left over to choose from. Far more than the XBox does, at any rate. Thus, I really don't think that that is going to be much of an issue. If exclusives are what sell consoles, then the next year is going to see a sudden increase in PS3 sales, if only because of the disparity between the total number of exclusives for each console.

 

[Neosage]

Its at this point that I would argue that, by the time Sony actually starts doing things right (which it isn't) that the next Nintendo and Microsoft console, or equivilent will be out.

And also I would like to remind everyone what a toll booth is/does.

 

[METC]

I'd love to get a PS3; what with Last Guardian, and inFamous, and LittleBigPlanet. The only matter is the price. If the 40GB version was 299, or even 349, I might consider it, because I'll definitely replace the hard drive with a much bigger one. But in the end, it'll cost about 400 without games under this scenario, which means I'll be at about 600 by the time I've gotten and/or pre-ordered games. So this means that under the current circumstances, it'll cost me about 800 to by a ps3 with games and upgraded storage. My math is estimated and done in my head, so don't berate me for that.

 

[sighh]

You guys ***** too much about a hundred bucks. I mean really... it's not that much money, get over it already.

I dropped 600 on mine and I feel like it was worth it. Now it's 500 (?) great! I'm glad y'all can save a bit of money.

If they're going to cut it to 400 thats great too it's all the same to me but if they aren't going to... You know, like they keep saying they won't and like all of you keep whining about... then you have two reasonable choices. You can either buy the damn thing OR you can not buy it and go cry yourselves to sleep about how mommy will only pay 400 dollars for a console and not 500.