Please Sign This Petition, Racism/Sexism Isn't Okay If Its Against Straight White Men

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Zontar

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AccursedTheory said:
Also, what is non-binary? Was she... discriminating against people with non-match ethnicity parents?
I think she was referring to people who are trans, those who identify as neither male nor female, but I could be wrong due to my admitted ignorance on that particular subject which gets only more confusing as people try to explain it to me.
 

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Worth noting that this has been gaining traction. News reports today:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/bahar-mustafa-goldsmiths-university-diversity-officer-could-lose-job-after-being-accused-by-students-of-racism-against-white-men-10260697.html

http://metro.co.uk/2015/05/19/goldsmiths-university-diversity-officer-could-be-sacked-after-tweeting-kill-all-white-men-hashtag-5205013/

She might be sacked from the role. Especially given how that petition linked in the OP is gaining traction and that apparently there's a petition going around at that university calling for for a vote of no confidence in her. A quick search for the official twitter account she was using reveals it seems to be deleted (I'm guessing people retaliated to her hate speech and she closed it in response).

Considering the position was WELFARE and Diversity Officer (not just Diversity, but apparently supposed to also be looking after student welfare in general) its pretty absurd her attitude.

Anyway...there always seems to be people around claiming that these kinds of people don't really exist. Well...here's one. An unapologetic sexist and racist who insists that she isn't because of her own race and sex.

I really do not understand why people can't just get along and see others as other people, not "X, Y and Z different to me".


Edit: One thing that's being missed in all of this is that UCL Union BACKED them for their original stance:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/05/01/ucl-excluding-men-white-people-anti-racism-events_n_7187302.html?utm_hp_ref=conversations-on-campus
 

L. Declis

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Oh look, a cultural marxist.

Looks like they are getting into some positions of power.

Looks like we were right, yet again.
 

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Jack Action said:
Provided they did indeed buy it at 200.000 back in 2005 (though I somehow doubt it), that still seems like something way out of reach for the average Brit. But, if you'd like, we can call this one a fuckup on my part.
The average salary in 2005 was £24,500. So a couple on the Uk average salary in 2005 would have a combined income of £49,000 which is close enough to carry a 4 times salary mortgage. Thats working on basis of a first time buyer with no deposit.

Zontar said:
You know, I've one of her speeches in video form and I have to say it's laughable in its absurdity to think she is not white. Last time I checked Turks where Caucasian. If you have to tell someone you're not white for them to know you're not white, then you're white.
The Turks are not Caucasian. Turkey is the westernmost end of the an ethnic group that extends to the borders of China. The Turks only arrived in Turkey in the 9th century AD. The Turks originated in central asia.
 

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AccursedTheory said:


She does look pretty white, doesn't she?

I would most definitely assume she was of European descent if I saw her on the street.

Also, what is non-binary? Was she... discriminating against people with non-match ethnicity parents?
Oh fucking hell, that's one of the most punchable faces I've ever seen in my life. Seriously, I just got this sudden urge to soc it to her. And I'm not normally a violent person.

Though, tragically, I think a petition like this won't harm her as much as it'll help her. She'll just use this as "proof" of how oppressive and evil men are.
 

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I havn't seen anyone post or mention any actual statements on her behalf (Mostly seeing secondary sources), so I looked it up.

My day keeps getting sadder.


There's the most ridiculous line. Roll back to the beginning to hear her explanation of the event where she told white men not to show up (Basically, it wasn't supposed to be an event to promote understanding, or tolerance, or anything constructive. It was just a 'We're not White Men' self-wank).

EDIT: Is queer an acceptable term in the UK?
 

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L. Declis said:
Oh look, a cultural marxist.

Looks like they are getting into some positions of power.

Looks like we were right, yet again.
How do we know she's a cultural Marxist?

OT: These were stupid things for her to say.

That said, the petitioner claims this is a breach of the 2006 Terrorism Act, which is ludicrous nonsense.
 

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Petition signed. What I find the most concerning about this whole debacle is that there were actually a buch of people who thought that it would be a good idea to elect this woman as a "diversity officer". Pretty funny.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
Zontar said:
You know, I've one of her speeches in video form and I have to say it's laughable in its absurdity to think she is not white. Last time I checked Turks where Caucasian. If you have to tell someone you're not white for them to know you're not white, then you're white.


She does look pretty white, doesn't she?

I would most definitely assume she was of European descent if I saw her on the street.

Also, what is non-binary? Was she... discriminating against people with non-match ethnicity parents?
Yeah if need to tell people you're not white you're white. I look less white than that woman. If only because of my eyes an hair. My eyes make me look slightly Asian, and my hair makes me look slightly Native American.
 

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Silvanus said:
That said, the petitioner claims this is a breach of the 2006 Terrorism Act, which is ludicrous nonsense.
Er...no. I'm pretty sure the petitioner is claiming that "#killallwhitemen" (mentioned in the petition), which she used and helped to propagate, is in breach of the 2006 Terrorism Act under section 1 "Encouragement of Terrorism". Which is something you'd have to take into a court of law to argue against because frankly I think that case could go either way. Having actually read that act one could easily argue that she's in breach of it for the following:

(2)A person commits an offence if-

(a)he publishes a statement to which this section applies or causes another to publish such a statement; and

(b)at the time he publishes it or causes it to be published, he-

(ii)is reckless as to whether members of the public will be directly or indirectly encouraged or otherwise induced by the statement to commit, prepare or instigate such acts or offences.

Source: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/11/section/1

Point 5 notes that it doesn't matter whether or not an offence was actually committed and I think she'd have a hell of a time trying to argue that the statement "didn't have her endorsement" (point 6) since she was trying to propagate it.

The hashtag is literally an encouragement of mass murder in an attempt to strike fear into a group of people. So effectively terrorism. Her defence of it appears to be "but its just a joke" which is basically no defence at all.

Hate speech is not acceptable. Neither is encouraging people to murder others. Regardless of whether you claim "its just a joke".
 

Zontar

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Silvanus said:
How do we know she's a cultural Marxist?
I believe she called herself that in the video in post 26, and if she didn't she does expout the views which define cultural Marxism.
 

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KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime said:
Dalek Caan said:
I have always viewed UK as a cultural melting pot, but some people want to make it into smaller divided pots and try to make some pots better than others. We'll nuts to those people, I'll sign.
That's actually what happened in the USA, they used minority racism to fracture the culture in to smaller segregated groups. You know rather than spread unity and sharing across all the cultural groups.
It's the nature of human society unfortunately. Once a group reches a certain point the members themselves eek to differentiate themselves from each other. When a group is formed people in the group feel elevated from those outside the group.. in away they feel 'Special'. When a group becomes more populous that feeling grows as every new member increases each other member's feeling of belonging.. but there comes a point where the size of the group starts having an inverse effect... there is when people start dividing, the groups... usually between the old guard and the new commers. The ones creating the division usually feeling their side of the division is better. And the process leads to intergroup strife, schisms, resettling and the process starts again.

You ever wonder why Christianity has so many damned sub-branches? Why even political parties have sub-groups? Heck look at GamerGate. That movement basically illustrated this in fast forward. The faster it grew the more fragmented it became to the point where the group may as well have been two groups.
 

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I think when she does lose her job, it'll reinforce her statement with "white males cost me my job".

AccursedTheory said:
Is queer an acceptable term in the UK?
It depends on who you ask and what the context is.
 

Zontar

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inu-kun said:
Hey, I'm a straight white cis male, and jewish,
You know I've been thinking, as a Jew myself I've been trying to figure out if, for those of us outside of Israel, is being Jewish a privilege or... whatever the term is for the opposite of privilege in new speak (disprivilage?), since while there are the stereotypes about Jews having high education and getting into lucrative lines of work, there's also the anti-Semitism.

Though if my girlfriend and I ever spawn new players, it would be interesting. I don't think there are that many half-Vietnamese/Half Jewish people out there.
 

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Oh my, how did she get through a law school without knowing racism and sexism is of hate/ignorance, not power? Do we call racially motivated crimes "power crimes" or "hate crimes"?

There are so many things in this world that would be absolutely hilarious if only they weren't so tragic. This is one of them.
 

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Silverblade said:
https://www.change.org/p/expel-bahar-mustafa-from-goldsmiths-university-for-criminal-misconduct-bahar-mustafa-should-be-removed-from-study-at-goldsmiths-university


Bahar Mustafa, the University Diversity Officer of Goldsmith's University in the United Kingdom has made very public and hateful comments toward a racial subtype and also sexist comments of misandry. This "statement" was to exclude people from a social gathering according to their racial type and sex; which remarkably was to discuss Goldsmiths Universities diversity policies. Furthermore, the killing of the white race for reasons unknown.

After planning attempts to "diversify" the campus of Goldsmiths, Bahar Mustafa posted the following on Facebook:

?If you?ve been invited and you?re a man and/or white PLEASE DON?T COME just cos I invited a bunch of people and hope you will be responsible enough to respect this is a BME [Black and Minority Ethnic] Women and non-binary event only,?

She later posted a photo of herself wiping away fake tears near a sign reading ?No White Cis Men Please.? Beneath the sign posted on the university owned rooms is a collection cup of "white male tears".

She has also consistently used hash-tags such as #killallwhitemen and #misandry, and publically calling someone ?white trash? under the official GSU Welfare and Diversity Officer twitter account."

To defend her actions she said in a You Tube video: "There have been charges made against me that I am racist and sexist to white men?"

"I, an ethnic minority woman, cannot be racist or sexist towards white men because racism and sexism describe structures of privilege based on race and gender and therefore women of colour and minority genders cannot be racist or sexist, since we do not stand to benefit from such a system."

"We will not be silenced; we are militant. The world is not ready for minorities to challenge the status quo, but resistance to our resistance is futile,? she added.

I am extremely disturbed and frightened by a university law graduate with a position of authority at this university openly practicing discriminatory policies in an education institution and advocating the killing of people based on their gender and ethnicity, particularly as that gender and ethnicity are my own.

Please sign the petition at the top of this post and prove that anti-hate and anti-discrimination policies protect men and white people and non just non-whites and females.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/bahar-mustafa-goldsmiths-university-diversity-officer-could-lose-job-after-being-accused-by-students-of-racism-against-white-men-10260697.html
Wait, it's a woman? Named Mustafa? No wonder she all mad. The first that comes to mind when I hear that name is a swarthy moustache in an Indiana Jones movie (the real movies, not that alien freakshow).
 

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Or, how not to do a diversity effort meeting.

If she had just said that the event was specifically geared towards minorities or LGBTQs, then that would have been fine. Instead, she took it upon herself to act like a combative brat, the antithesis of what the behavior should be of a person running a diversity initiative. She should not be in that job, behavior like this just makes things worse.

But expel her? No, the purpose of an education is to prevent people from acting exactly like this. The maturity that comes with an education enables people to be more careful about causes they choose to follow. Instead, chucking her out would just cause her to go home and live off her rich parents, effectively cutting her off of the influences she needs to unlearn this behavior.