Because it's too awesome to be constrained by the petty boundaries of logic!DukeisClay said:
Stephen Lang was hands down the best part of that movie, heh.
Plot holes in "Avatar"
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Stephen Lang was hands down the best part of that movie, heh.
I think some people are sort of misinterpreting what I thought the plot hole was. The rephrase it, I was essentially asking where was Norm when Jake was suffocating? Did the movie ever show him leave?
I think the questions were answered (he went off into the jungle again, apparently), but I don't remember that happening so I can't be sure.
I think the questions were answered (he went off into the jungle again, apparently), but I don't remember that happening so I can't be sure.
He's not condemning them to death, he's saving his won people from the exploitation of a greedy corporation. The RDA don't represent the entirety of humanity, obviously we must've been pretty well off if we could afford such a venture. I hardly think a lack of "unobtanium" will starve anything except a few greedy businessmen's wallets. But the means they used to gain it would cause extensive damage to Pandora's ecosystem. Let's also not forget that Quaritch was about to effect genocide by bombing the tree of souls, the hub of all the synapses between the Pandora wildlife. Without that, creatures couldn't link, the forest wouldn't function. Pandora would literally die, and the Na'vi with it.Internet Kraken said:
Am I the only one who notices the irony in trying to get a resource called "unobtainium" at all costs?Godavari said:
That's bullshit. Why would there be such a high demand for this resource if it wasn't necessary?dantom1 said:
It's called consumerism.Internet Kraken said:
Also, how many people die in gang wars over illegal drugs and how many people have died for things like blood diamonds? They're certainly not necessary.
Do people lose billions of dollars worth of future tech when fighting over drugs? I don't think so. The value of the unobtanium would have to somehow outweigh all the money they spent trying to get it. And the only way something could be that valuable was if it was neccesary for human survival/expansion.ReincarnatedFTP said:
Or humanity/the particular people funding this project are greedy bastards who are really well off and don't give a damn about anybody but the bottom line.There are CEOs like that, even if they haven't taken it to the extent of Avatar (because they can't).Internet Kraken said:
If you're arguing that it's a plothole in the movie fine, but from the movie it appears their motivation is nothing but greed.
And even if it hasn't all been in technology, the War on Drugs and the illegal activities it encourages have been a waste of billions of dollars in the US budget alone.
You see a masked human run briefly and fight on the Na'Vi side. It's very VERY quick, but I think it's him. Norm was awesome, and got a great "death", I wish they'd done a bit more with him.MONSTERheart said:
That's what my problem is with the movie. You can't just say the only reason to do that is because of greed. It doesn't make sense.ReincarnatedFTP said:
Okay, none of those are plot holes. And you can't use "it has plot holes" as one of your plot holes.Booze Zombie said:
I also have no idea what you mean by "no reason for being the way he is". Do you mean why he's in a wheelchair? Or why he turns against the greedy, aggressive, authoritarian humans in favour of the harmonious, romantic, wonderful Na'Vi and a super strong super fast body that he could only dream of as a human?
And, more importantly: Have you seen Dances with Wolves? Because I'd not even heard of it until all the "Dances with Smurfs" bullshit, and now it's suddenly become extremely prevalent. Have I somehow completely missed a phenomonally well known classic or is everyone just jumping on the bandwagon?
Of course it makes sense. Why was the conquistadores' motto "Gold, God, and Glory"? Gold wasn't necessary. The only useful thing we do with gold now is to make wire out of it. During the exploration, they didn't need it for anything other than making things look pretty. And yet here I am in the New World talking to you because people were greedy, and for no other reason.Internet Kraken said:
a minor concern for Norm might have been that he could have been killed by the Na'Vi once he was out of his avatar.... I cant remember if they ever saw his human self before the fight but even if they did he's just another human with a face obscuring mask and isn't daubed in blue warpaint, also the majority of the ground force was made up of the horse riding tribe who have never met Norm... just a small worry for his safetyStevieWonderMk2 said:
Methinks that you're looking a bit TOO far into it Kraken, and from what I could see during the film, it was purely a consumerism aspect.
As the main character says, it's not the army that are in the forest, they're all hired guns, merceneries. If it was a survival thing surely the army wouldn't be getting paid?
Also, the value of the unobtanium was $20 million per kg. Imagine how many tonnes you'd get from the huge deposits.
Simple thing is it's a LOT of money.
(And I would have done the same thing that he did. He was crippled as well remember, the Na'vi effectively gave him his legs back and a love.)
As the main character says, it's not the army that are in the forest, they're all hired guns, merceneries. If it was a survival thing surely the army wouldn't be getting paid?
Also, the value of the unobtanium was $20 million per kg. Imagine how many tonnes you'd get from the huge deposits.
Simple thing is it's a LOT of money.
(And I would have done the same thing that he did. He was crippled as well remember, the Na'vi effectively gave him his legs back and a love.)
Both have necessary uses when manufacturing certain items. And again, we don't have to waste billions (actually, it's more likely to be trillions) of dollars trying to obtain these resources.mb16 said:
I know the movie says that they are just mercenaries, but it's so painfully obvious that they represent the actual army.Aloran said:
And again, that's what I dislike about the film. It just doesn't make sense. In reality nobody would waste this much money trying to acquire a resource unless it was incredibly valuable. And the only way such a resource could be so valuable was if it was necessary to maintain the current status of human society.