Plot holes in games and films (potential spoilers)

[Blind0bserver]

In Mass Effect it was never really explained why the Reapers continued their cycle of extinction over and over again. One of the party members suggested that they were "harvesting" the sentient races, but Sovereign itself simply said that it's reasoning was far beyond mortal comprehension. It came across as somewhat of a cop-out to me.

 

[Datalord]

well, of course, How could a virus mutate its means of transference that quickly in Resident Evil?
Actually, pretty much any Zombie movie:How the FRICK is a zombie reanimated when the human body stops working for a good f*cking reason when you die.
Then the obvious LOTR one, why don't they ride the eagles to mordor?
Spaceballs, and every other spoof movie, 'nuf said

 

[sirsolo]

There are quite a few in the Harry Potter movies, and Twilight is a bit plot hole.

 

[PAGEToap44]

The Dark Knight, how the Joker just seems to vanish after Batman captures him. We hear nothing of him after he gets captured, and yes I understand this could be due to his death but it still bugs me.

I think the plot hole was left there purposefully. Most of the time they do crap like that they're leaving it open for the next movie to finish it off.

Besides, it was almost the end of the movie anyway.

 

[SmugFrog]

Transformers, when Bumblebee takes the shot that blows his legs off. he's still holding the motherf#$kin' All Spark. Apparently this thing able to fix any Transformer that it comes in contact with (Frenzy was able to restore his body just by standing in front of it). So how come it didn't work its magic on Bumblebee?!

And why was everything the All Spark turned into a robot an EVIL ROBOT?

 

[SmugFrog]

Spoiler: Star Wars episode III

During the opening space battle, Obi-Wan's ship falls under attack by buzz-droids, who proceed to cut into his fighter, disabling a number of systems and leading Anakin to try some decidedly dangerous moves to get rid of them. Both Anakin and Obi-Wan are acknowledged experts in the use of the Force and both have been shown to use the Force routinely, even for relatively mundane activities. It's also been firmly established that the Force works on droids and that the Force-user can still affect others through windows, viewscreens and so forth. Yet neither thinks to use the Force to simply sweep the buzz-droids off Obi-Wan's fighter.

Spoiler: Edward Scissorhands

At the end of the film, we see Edward carving ice sculptures in his mansion. How did he get the ice up there? First of all, it takes place in a warm climate and I didn't see a freezer up there in the castle. He couldn't have gotten ice from town because firstly he had scissors for hands and couldn't have gripped the ice. And, even if by some miracle he could, he wouldn't be able to buy any from town because everyone in town but Kim was convinced that Edward was a killer, so they wouldn't have let him in their shop without calling the police. And Kim didn't bring it to him because she told her granddaughter in the end that she never saw him again after that night. So where did he get that ice?

Spoiler: Spider-Man 2

Harry tells Doc Ock that in order to find Spider-Man he must find Peter first. Doc Ock finds Peter with Mary Jane in the cafe and throws a car through the window straight at them. Any normal man would've been killed instantly, and Doc Ock doesn't know that Peter is Spider-Man. Given that Peter is his only lead on Spider-Man, it makes no sense that Doc Ock would effectively try to kill him.

Wow, I have to say I feel silly for not realizing those glaring problems.

That really bugs me about the Star Wars universe; they'll do some of the most illogical things when a simple answer would work - just to use some snazzy special effects or make a plot twist.

The Spider-Man one; that's just hilarious. *SPLAT* Oh no! I killed him!!! lol.

 

[minarri]

All of Sunshine.

Ummm... Where?

You did see the movie, right?

 

[Random Argument Man]

All of Sunshine.

Ummm... Where?

You did see the movie, right?

Yes,I have it on my computer.

The sun is dying. They're trying to revive it with a bomb. The found the ship that was supposed to do the misson in the first place. They change course. Then every thing starts going slasher film on their ass. The ending was one of the most beautiful ending possible.

Now, WHERE'S THE ************* PLOT HOLE!?!?

It's hard to verify your claim when you're not specific. It's even more important to specify in this kind of thread.

 

[minarri]

All of Sunshine.

Ummm... Where?

You did see the movie, right?

Yes,I have it on my computer.

The sun is dying. They're trying to revive it with a bomb. The found the ship that was supposed to do the misson in the first place. They change course. Then every thing starts going slasher film on their ass. The ending was one of the most beautiful ending possible.

Now, WHERE'S THE ************* PLOT HOLE!?!?

It's hard to verify your claim when you're not specific. It's even more important to specify in this kind of thread.

Sorry, didn't think I had to bother specifying with a movie like that. But if I must:

This pretty much sums up the issue with the fact that the sun's "dying." http://www.theslackerz.com/index.php?nav=Comic&Page=45

I could also go on and on about the stupid decisions that the characters continually make while acting like they have no other choice, though I'm sure there are many who would rather chalk that up to flaws in the characters themselves rather than in the writing. Still, what left me scratching my head is that they were supposedly the best Earth had to offer.

 

[Kadamon]

The biggest plots holes of all, in the Transformers movie, even started to reach out and effect other parts of the movie, such as scripts and ****ing common sense.

 

[Mstrswrd]

Transformers, when Bumblebee takes the shot that blows his legs off. he's still holding the motherf#$kin' All Spark. Apparently this thing able to fix any Transformer that it comes in contact with (Frenzy was able to restore his body just by standing in front of it). So how come it didn't work its magic on Bumblebee?!

And why was everything the All Spark turned into a robot an EVIL ROBOT?

They weren't actually evil. They were essentially reacting on instinct. They came into existance, knowing nothing but weapons and fighting, and so, in their lack of understanding, lashed out at everything around them.

The biggest plots holes of all, in the Transformers movie, even started to reach out and effect other parts of the movie, such as scripts and ****ing common sense.

You've got to explain what part your talking about.

 

[Kadamon]

Transformers, when Bumblebee takes the shot that blows his legs off. he's still holding the motherf#$kin' All Spark. Apparently this thing able to fix any Transformer that it comes in contact with (Frenzy was able to restore his body just by standing in front of it). So how come it didn't work its magic on Bumblebee?!

And why was everything the All Spark turned into a robot an EVIL ROBOT?

They weren't actually evil. They were essentially reacting on instinct. They came into existance, knowing nothing but weapons and fighting, and so, in their lack of understanding, lashed out at everything around them.

The biggest plots holes of all, in the Transformers movie, even started to reach out and effect other parts of the movie, such as scripts and ****ing common sense.

You've got to explain what part your talking about.

Product placement of cars, most of the robots get 1-2 lines then DIE. And everything the guy about me (that you quoted) said.

 

[Random Argument Man]

All of Sunshine.

Ummm... Where?

You did see the movie, right?

Yes,I have it on my computer.

The sun is dying. They're trying to revive it with a bomb. The found the ship that was supposed to do the misson in the first place. They change course. Then every thing starts going slasher film on their ass. The ending was one of the most beautiful ending possible.

Now, WHERE'S THE ************* PLOT HOLE!?!?

It's hard to verify your claim when you're not specific. It's even more important to specify in this kind of thread.

Sorry, didn't think I had to bother specifying with a movie like that. But if I must:

This pretty much sums up the issue with the fact that the sun's "dying." http://www.theslackerz.com/index.php?nav=Comic&Page=45

I could also go on and on about the stupid decisions that the characters continually make while acting like they have no other choice, though I'm sure there are many who would rather chalk that up to flaws in the characters themselves rather than in the writing. Still, what left me scratching my head is that they were supposedly the best Earth had to offer.

Well, I guess you don't know the difference between "Science fiction" and realism. How many Science fiction movies broke the laws of physics? mmmmmm?


Besides, you're saying the movie doesn't make sense because of real scientific facts. This doesn't give a "plot hole". Plot holes are things that doesn't make sense in the story order.

Take Starwars for exemple, Princess Leia said she remembers her mother while she was very young.
However, Padmé died at childbirth. That's a plot hole.

 

[TheTygerfire]

Simms asks you to disarm the bomb the moment you enter the city and Burke asks you to set it off first time you enter the bar. While I can understand Burke's actions, why the fuck would Simms ask a complete stranger to fuck around with something that can potentially lay waste to half of the wasteland?
Finally, given that the quest requires a whooping 35 Demolitons skill something a base character can reach by eating Mentats, how come on one else bothers to disarm the bomb? I'm pretty sure Jericho and Moriarty could easily do it, if Moira refuses after further persuading.

First, it's 25 explosive skill
Second, he didn't ask you, you had to ask him if you could.
Third, no one did it because of the Church of Atom, and since you're not from Megaton it wouldn't matter if they hated you.
Fourth, about Tennpenny, HE AND BURKE ARE FUCKING INSANE ELITISTS, THAT'S WHY! That's not a plot hole at all...

 

[mattttherman3]

Well in Fallout 3, when your dad dies, why does the Colonel live?

 

[minarri]

Well, I guess you don't know the difference between "Science fiction" and realism. How many Science fiction movies broke the laws of physics? mmmmmm?


Besides, you're saying the movie doesn't make sense because of real scientific facts. This doesn't give a "plot hole". Plot holes are things that doesn't make sense in the story order.

Take Starwars for exemple, Princess Leia said she remembers her mother while she was very young.
However, Padmé died at childbirth. That's a plot hole.

You're right, I probably was a little too liberal with my usage of the term "plot hole."


Well glaring violations of high school-level science aside, the movie started out somewhat decently with the interplay of the characters. It's a shame that they didn't stick with that, and randomly switched over to slasher flick in the second half.

I think what counts as a plot hole in my book is why the crew member of the first ship even stayed around for those seven years: just in case someone else came by so he could sabotage them too?

The AI's selective overrides of the trajectory were a bit confusing as well.

(By the way, your example actually doesn't hold because Leia's memory is of her foster mother.)

 

[manicfoot]

Anyways, in Le Dark Knight (don't ask me why i say it like that... i just do) Noone "picked up Rachael" she left Bruce's manor and then they forgot about her

Wasn't the lady detective the one who "picked her up" (meaning kidnapped) and that's why two face wanted to kill her? Or are you talking about a different part of the movie?

Well Harvey was being transported to somewhere by a police officer... so he was "picked up"
But Rachael drove herself to ... wherever it was she was going to

She was on her way to Bruce's manor. You learn when two face interrogates the mob leader (think he's called San Moroni) that it was the female officer Anna Ramirez from Gordon's unit who gave her to the joker. Its possible that she overheard Rachel's conversation with Harvey and arranged for her capture.

 

[Random Argument Man]

Well, I guess you don't know the difference between "Science fiction" and realism. How many Science fiction movies broke the laws of physics? mmmmmm?


Besides, you're saying the movie doesn't make sense because of real scientific facts. This doesn't give a "plot hole". Plot holes are things that doesn't make sense in the story order.

Take Starwars for exemple, Princess Leia said she remembers her mother while she was very young.
However, Padmé died at childbirth. That's a plot hole.

You're right, I probably was a little too liberal with my usage of the term "plot hole."


Well glaring violations of high school-level science aside, the movie started out somewhat decently with the interplay of the characters. It's a shame that they didn't stick with that, and randomly switched over to slasher flick in the second half.

I think what counts as a plot hole in my book is why the crew member of the first ship even stayed around for those seven years: just in case someone else came by so he could sabotage them too?

The AI's selective overrides of the trajectory were a bit confusing as well.

(By the way, your example actually doesn't hold because Leia's memory is of her foster mother.)

Well, I have to admit the switch to slasher film was a weak choice from the director. Which confused me since it's Danny Boyle. The master director of 28 days later, Slumdog Millionaire and Trainspotting.

About the example....Shit, I have to find a better example now. Although, you got the point.

Anyway, glad we ended this in a good way.

 

[Caliostro]

Here's a thought about Star Wars:

So there's this metal right, Curtoisis (or something), which was extremely lightsaber resistant, even going as far as disrupting the lightsaber's "stream", forcing it to turn off after contact with large quantities...


... This metal wasn't abundantly used because it was rare... Ok.


...Yet they could use it in some droids... But NOBODY ever considered making small pieces of armor out of it... Or even a small shield...? Like...really?

And off course: midichlorians, jar jar binks and ewoks.

 

[Eagle Est1986]

Well, I have to admit the switch to slasher film was a weak choice from the director. Which confused me since it's Danny Boyle. The master director of 28 days later, Slumdog Millionaire and Trainspotting.

Really? I quite enjoyed the switch, even if I was a little surprised to start with. I love that movie, it was beautiful.