Pokemon Black & White Announced for the DS

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Blue22

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Flipping heck I can't wait! It's gonna be GREAT! Now that I say that, it's probably going to be mediocre. But if they include all of the innovations from HG and SS, with a few new ones, the games should be fantastic! Unless in Pokémon are awful, in which case. Oh well.
 

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"Every aspect will be reborn innovatively"

So in other words 100 new Pokémon, a new continent, a new Team and a few new gimmicks? Hey, works for me.
 

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Tales of Golden Sun said:
Space Spoons said:
And how about an overhaul of the HM system, huh? My Pidgeotto is a flying type, it should already know how to fly. My Scyther has swords for arms, it should already know Cut. I understand the reasoning behind locking the ability to use these moves outside of battle until you get a certain badge, but there's no excuse to waste a valuable move slot (which you can't back until much, much later, mind you) on something as useless as Rock Smash.
Dude, just teach rock smash to a rattata. No one likes him anyway.
That doesn't really solve my problem, though. Instead of wasting a move slot on a Pokemon I actually use, I'm wasting an entire character slot on a Pokemon that serves no purpose except as an HM slave.
 

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Space Spoons said:
Tales of Golden Sun said:
Space Spoons said:
And how about an overhaul of the HM system, huh? My Pidgeotto is a flying type, it should already know how to fly. My Scyther has swords for arms, it should already know Cut. I understand the reasoning behind locking the ability to use these moves outside of battle until you get a certain badge, but there's no excuse to waste a valuable move slot (which you can't back until much, much later, mind you) on something as useless as Rock Smash.
Dude, just teach rock smash to a rattata. No one likes him anyway.
That doesn't really solve my problem, though. Instead of wasting a move slot on a Pokemon I actually use, I'm wasting an entire character slot on a Pokemon that serves no purpose except as an HM slave.
That's true. What's even worse is that there are 8 HMs, meaning you'll need to waste at least 2 spots on your team.

But I only use HM slaves for travelling, if I need to fight I just put my slaves on the PC
 

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Oh freaking joy.

After the monumental failure that was Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, I think I'll give these two a pass.

Let me give a history of the pokemon series from my eyes:

Red and Blue: A new, innovative kind of game that really drew people's attention.

Yellow: Probably the most worthy of the title "Special Edition" in the entire series, giving you the Pikachu thing, Jesse and James right out of the cartoon series, and stuff like that.

Gold and Silver: Solid sequals, improving the game by adding new mechanics like hold items, a lot of new HMs, and, best of all, the ability to go back to the old region, which in itself added TONS of value to the game, plus the really cool PokeGear, Week Cycle, and Day Cycle.

Crystal: The best of the series, adding in the pokemon animations, the Battle Tower, and several other things such as the Suicune plot that really made things cool.

Ruby and Saphire: This is where the series started to get a bit gimmicky, with the Pokemon Contests, and the Secret Bases. However, both of those were still very fun, and adding stuff like the run button and stuff was a very good move. Disappointing that you couldn't go back to the last region, but still fun.

Emerald: Another good pokemon game, but not much added between games other than the Rayquaza plot.

Diamond and Pearl: The worst games of the series. Ruined the Pokemon Contest AND the Secret Bases, gave you a watch full of useless functions that paled in comparison to the epic PokeGear, changed the battle system (specifically Special and regular Attacks) as to confuse the hell out of fans by making them unlearn when they just spent 3 generations (3.5 if you count Fire Red and Leaf Green) learning, and just generally being terrible.

Now, I never played Fire Red/Leaf Green, Platinum, or Soul Silver/Heart Gold, but I doubted they would be worth my time anyways.
To me, someone just needs to put this franchise to sleep. With a 12 gauge shotgun if nessisary.
 

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Nintendo needs to renovate their titles. Nostalgia feels good and when you have the golden formula, you dont fix whats not broken. However even the golden formula can grow stale given enough time. The next legend of Zelda and Pokemon both need something to make them fresh. Its getting to the point where a new zelda or new pokemon is starting to feel as predictable as the yearly madden game.
 

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sougo13 said:
'Pokemon Black & White Announced for the DS'

Look up from playing his unfinished Platinum & HeartGold...

Danm it!
pretty much this lol

OT: I am looking forward to it, think zoroark is a bit meh design wise, but the new innovations for battling ( you can see your pokemons entire back, not just its head + shoulders) graphics and, hopefully, new but less frustrating methods of evolution. The levelling mon in a certain area to make them evolve gimmick was rather cool, and made sense "fluff" wise, as did the mantyke + remoraid= mantine.

I want more competitive bug mon, and a pure fighting type legendary. How about the first ever hitmon as a legendary type, combining the power of the other three into one awesome being?

my, hitmon fanboyish, 2 cents

rosac
 

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Yay.... not. I recently traded in Diamond, I just couldn't stand it. But i'm tempted my soulsilver and heartgold, I just love the first two generations of games.

But black and white editions? Well I'll wait and see, just because of the chance of a change.
 

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Ugh. I gave up on this series when it migrated to the DS. Hopefully the "innovation" is actually innovative, but judging by the past games...
 

CrazyGirl17

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I'd still play it. Wonder what kinds of innovations they have in mind. And I don't care what anyone says, I liked the newest batch of Pokemon and can't wait to see the next one so there.

(Also, I'm kinda hoping for a Light element, though I don't think there's anything else they could use after this...)
 

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Cowabungaa said:
Dammit Nintendo, stop adding ridiculous new Pokémon. Your creatures just became silly after number 251.
Stop with the new RPG titles, and give us a sequel to this:

NOW!!!
Now replace the camera with a GUN so you can let me shoot, stuff, and hang the fuckers on my wall and you just may have a fun pokemon game for once. Pokemon Blast has a nice ring to it don't ya think?
 

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-Seraph- said:
Cowabungaa said:
Dammit Nintendo, stop adding ridiculous new Pokémon. Your creatures just became silly after number 251.
Stop with the new RPG titles, and give us a sequel to this:

NOW!!!
Now replace the camera with a GUN so you can let me shoot, stuff, and hang the fuckers on my wall and you just may have a fun pokemon game for once. Pokemon Blast has a nice ring to it don't ya think?
no that is a terrible idea you cant stuff a pokemon you eat it
 

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werewolfsfury said:
-Seraph- said:
Cowabungaa said:
Dammit Nintendo, stop adding ridiculous new Pokémon. Your creatures just became silly after number 251.
Stop with the new RPG titles, and give us a sequel to this:

NOW!!!
Now replace the camera with a GUN so you can let me shoot, stuff, and hang the fuckers on my wall and you just may have a fun pokemon game for once. Pokemon Blast has a nice ring to it don't ya think?
no that is a terrible idea you cant stuff a pokemon you eat it
Hey you, want a delicious slowpoke tail?
 

Dendio

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I followed Pokemon up to Gen 3

Gold/Silver was the highlight of the pokemon series

Ruby /Sapphire should have been the final version of the formula ( trilogy)

Diamond/pearl should have been a revamp with new features

White and Black will be the final chance at setting things right imo
 

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Is it sad that when I first glanced at the title, I only saw Black and White, so I thought that's what they were porting? Disappointing, but still, I'm hoping that they'll fix some of the problems. If it gets good reviews, I may just buy it. Otherwise, I'll probably wait until it hits the bargain bin.