pokemon HM's

[w@rew0lf]

do you find in the new pokemon games you have to have one or two pokemon that you have just to use HMs. for example on soul silver i have a raticate for all the on land hms (rocksmash, strength, rockclimb, and cut) and a gyarados for all the water ones (surf,waterfall, and whirlpool) do you have to do this? and do you also think nintendo have gone overboard with the HMs? and by the way i didnt mention fly cuz usually iv always got a flying type with me.

Yes. They are known as an HM B*tch/Slave. With the flash and flying ones being Flashy Slave and my mount in that order.

Spoiler: Ultimate HM Slave Team

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= winnar!

 

[blarghblarghhhhh]

for hms im using the evolution of bidoof and trophius, you can get all 8 of them on them. i do however think hms are outdated and nintendo needs to figure out a different way to contain us within set portions of the map.

 

[Dendio]

Flash..what does it do in combat?

 

[Erana]

Flash..what does it do in combat?

Lower's the enemy's accuracy one stage. If it were two, it would begin to be useful...

Also, people here do occasionally mention Waterfall, but I personally find it to be an amazing move. It has a base power of 80, while being 10 points weaker than the only other real alternative physical water attack, it has a 20% chance of causing flinching.

I love flinching.

Really, though, HMs are a cute idea in theory, but a poor gameplay mechanic in practice. Pokemon just gets away with so much JRPG blasphemy and faux pas because people are reluctant to put it in said category. If anyone is firmiliar with the items BOULDERBADGE or CASCADEBADGE, it seems like Game Freak originally intended to make these skills items.

 

[Danpascooch]

Ok, while it IS true that the game gets good about 20 hours in, it would be unreasonable to say in the least to expect anyone to play that long to get to the "good part" if they hate it, also, there is no excuse for it taking 20 hours to get good.

For the first 20 hours of my playthrough, all I wanted to do was go to a fucking town, but apparently that is too much to ask in a FREAKING RPG!

It was good by "all games" standards, but bad by "final fantasy" standards

(psst... i think you're on the wrong thread. I suspect you meant to click on something regarding Final Fantasy XIII. this thread is about Pokemon. lol)

Yes, I did, and when the first guy quoted it I was too lazy to change it, lol, but now I better do it

 

[Danpascooch]

Ok, while it IS true that the game gets good about 20 hours in, it would be unreasonable to say in the least to expect anyone to play that long to get to the "good part" if they hate it, also, there is no excuse for it taking 20 hours to get good.

For the first 20 hours of my playthrough, all I wanted to do was go to a fucking town, but apparently that is too much to ask in a FREAKING RPG!

It was good by "all games" standards, but bad by "final fantasy" standards

Erm what does that have to do with Poke'mon?
I really don't like having to sacrifice one of 4 moves for a hidden machine move that I will rarely use in battle.

It has absolutely nothing to do with Pokemon, this was supposed to be posted in Yahtzee's review of FF13, I had too many tabs open and misposted, lol.

I fixed it now.

And yes, I hate HMs, making Flash a TM was a good start, now they have to kill rock smash, cut, and rock climb (maybe strength, but I could live with strength). In all honesty I don't mind waterfall because although it has less power than surf it is classified as a physical move, and thus has uses with some physical damage based pokemon.

 

[Danpascooch]

Ok, while it IS true that the game gets good about 20 hours in, it would be unreasonable to say in the least to expect anyone to play that long to get to the "good part" if they hate it, also, there is no excuse for it taking 20 hours to get good.

For the first 20 hours of my playthrough, all I wanted to do was go to a fucking town, but apparently that is too much to ask in a FREAKING RPG!

It was good by "all games" standards, but bad by "final fantasy" standards

Wrong thread methinks?

Methinks you're right, I fixed it, ty for letting me know

 

[Phoenixlight]

I hate HM's.

They completely break my Pokemon selection. All those attacks planned out for the enemy? Fuck that, I must leave space for waterfall.

Are you actually banned or is this an attempt at humor by the moderators since it's the 1st of April today?

 

[gothic wolf]

I've been playing Fire Red myself. For some rason I can't teach Magikarp Water Pulse.

Maybe that's because it's a Magikarp....

magikarp just has splash at the start learns tackle at LV 15 and at 50 it learns another move i think