Pokemon love interest

[Onyx Oblivion]

He loves Muk.

Everybody loves Muk.

Muk loves everybody.

Seriously, the show sucks so hard now, that its the worst show on television.

 

[ssgt splatter]

Does he have to have a romance?

He's a random cartoon kid, with a penchant for trapping wild animals into small containers and then forcing them to fight to the death, all in the name of winning a trophy/fridge magnet/collectible toy from Hasbro [delete where applicable].

A person (a young boy, no less) with that much hate and disregard for endangered species cannot possibly find, or want, love.

Also, this has no relation to the topic at hand, but Brock has no eyes, yet he ogles every woman in existence. How?

Well, I'm just saying, he's met and befriended like 15-20 girls and like 5 of them are very close to him: Misty, May, Dawn, Angie, and one from a movie, Bianca. On top of that Misty and Bianca are the only two who have actually show their affection in some way. Misty pretty much says she loves him in the 2nd movie and Bianca, supposedly, kisses him on the cheek in the 5th movie. So, why doesn't he have a love interest?

 

[Ophiuchus]

There doesn't need to be a love interest. The friendship and companionship between Ash and Pikachu is so central to the overarching story that any love interest would just detract from it.

That said, I haven't seen it in several years so maybe they've buggered it up by now. Either way, I don't see why there has to be a love interest in everything.

 

[hannahdonno]

Does he have to have a romance?

He's a random cartoon kid, with a penchant for trapping wild animals into small containers and then forcing them to fight to the death, all in the name of winning a trophy/fridge magnet/collectible toy from Hasbro [delete where applicable].

A person (a young boy, no less) with that much hate and disregard for endangered species cannot possibly find, or want, love.

Also, this has no relation to the topic at hand, but Brock has no eyes, yet he ogles every woman in existence. How?

Well, I'm just saying, he's met and befriended like 15-20 girls and like 5 of them are very close to him: Misty, May, Dawn, Angie, and one from a movie, Bianca. On top of that Misty and Bianca are the only two who have actually show their affection in some way. Misty pretty much says she loves him in the 2nd movie and Bianca, supposedly, kisses him on the cheek in the 5th movie. So, why doesn't he have a love interest?

Maybe Nintendo don't want to blurt out a stereotypical, cliche love story?

 

[ssgt splatter]

There doesn't need to be a love interest. The friendship and companionship between Ash and Pikachu is so central to the overarching story that any love interest would just detract from it.

That said, I haven't seen it in several years so maybe they've buggered it up by now. Either way, I don't see why there has to be a love interest in everything.

I don't think there has to be a love interest in everything either but still he has like 10-15 girls who like him and it's starting to bug me.

 

[ssgt splatter]

Does he have to have a romance?

He's a random cartoon kid, with a penchant for trapping wild animals into small containers and then forcing them to fight to the death, all in the name of winning a trophy/fridge magnet/collectible toy from Hasbro [delete where applicable].

A person (a young boy, no less) with that much hate and disregard for endangered species cannot possibly find, or want, love.

Also, this has no relation to the topic at hand, but Brock has no eyes, yet he ogles every woman in existence. How?

Well, I'm just saying, he's met and befriended like 15-20 girls and like 5 of them are very close to him: Misty, May, Dawn, Angie, and one from a movie, Bianca. On top of that Misty and Bianca are the only two who have actually show their affection in some way. Misty pretty much says she loves him in the 2nd movie and Bianca, supposedly, kisses him on the cheek in the 5th movie. So, why doesn't he have a love interest?

Maybe Nintendo don't want to blurt out a stereotypical, cliche love story?

Yeah, maybe.

 

[EscapeGoat_v1legacy]

Does he have to have a romance?

He's a random cartoon kid, with a penchant for trapping wild animals into small containers and then forcing them to fight to the death, all in the name of winning a trophy/fridge magnet/collectible toy from Hasbro [delete where applicable].

A person (a young boy, no less) with that much hate and disregard for endangered species cannot possibly find, or want, love.

Also, this has no relation to the topic at hand, but Brock has no eyes, yet he ogles every woman in existence. How?

Well, I'm just saying, he's met and befriended like 15-20 girls and like 5 of them are very close to him: Misty, May, Dawn, Angie, and one from a movie, Bianca. On top of that Misty and Bianca are the only two who have actually show their affection in some way. Misty pretty much says she loves him in the 2nd movie and Bianca, supposedly, kisses him on the cheek in the 5th movie. So, why doesn't he have a love interest?

I'm afraid you've got me there. Still, I'll try and justify myself.

Firstly, his befriending of women. Personally, I put it down to the fact that he's the protagonist of a kid's show and therefore suffers from being too likeable (notwithstanding his arrogance at the beginning of the "saga"). He must befriend everyone because that's how he's written - child-friendly and without enough flaws to make him appear human enough, but enough to show him as a teenager.

Secondly, his 5 closest friends. Now, I'm not a great fan of the Pokemon anime, so I won't pretend to know all of the people you listed there. However, I did follow it for quite a while, so I'll take a guess. Misty and May were both main protagonists, much like Ash. They featured in every episode for the series' they starred in, were involved in all of Ash's escapades and overall share the limelight. However, despite the purported romance, it does boil down to the fact that Ash is, in essence, a kid. A young teenager. In the early seasons, he would have no real reason to have a relationship with women, aside from a friendship. However, as he grows older, throughout the progession of the show, obviously (assuming he's human) he would start to fall in love, correct?

Writers can't have that.

Why? Because it wouldn't fit. Pokemon is aimed at children (and no offence to yourself) who are young. Let's say, around 7-10 years old. How many 7-10 year olds want to sit and watch a drama about a young boy who slowly matures, and falls in love with his traveling companion, and best (human) friend? Or would they rather watch a show about a kid, seemingly about their age, give or take (since there's no mention of his age other than the opening episode) who has monster friends who he battles other like-minded people with, to become the best Trainer ever?

There's the nub of the problem. I'm not saying Ash shouldn't have an obvious in-show relationship. In fact, I reckon it'd add to his character. However, the target audience prevents it. Sure, the writers can put in subtle hints, and have kisses on the cheek, and starry eyes, but then it'd detract from the basic premise of the show - monsters beat up more monsters.

 

[llamastorm.games]

Ash is also 10 when the anime begins, has his 11th birthday in one of the filler episodes between 2 of the series.
And he hasnt aged since and wont unless the writers feel like it.
So at 11 why would be chasing girls?
Also anyone else wonder why Brock who is around 18 ish and misty who's 12 would be hanging around with Ash?
Personally i think Brock's a pedo.
I question why he has to have a love interest when that usually cheapens a series with such unoriginal content and the fact he's 11 means he isnt exactly going to be chasing much tail.

 

[Gerazzi]

He'll never have a real love interest because the show is primarily made for the younger Pokémon fans, most of whom are male.

Hence he needs to appeal to their "girls are icky let's get into fights instead" mentality.

The entire story has lost it's appeal to me. Those of you who say that it can't happen because it's made for small children need to explain why Brock is constantly falling in love.
I've stopped watching, but that may be because they changed Ash's voice actor.

All in all, they need to pull some explanations from wherever possible. The whole "play comic foil to Brock" deal was what was really funny about the original series, but it just doesn't make any sense.

Also, this is another thing that I've never quite got, what the hell is going on with Team Rocket? seems like they'd give up by now.

but as for WHY ash hasn't had a love interest, I'd say it was because there's a fair bit of androgyny in the series.

 

[KDBTV]

I love Gardevoir!
Don't ask me why!

 

[ssgt splatter]

I'm afraid you've got me there. Still, I'll try and justify myself.

Firstly, his befriending of women. Personally, I put it down to the fact that he's the protagonist of a kid's show and therefore suffers from being too likeable (notwithstanding his arrogance at the beginning of the "saga"). He must befriend everyone because that's how he's written - child-friendly and without enough flaws to make him appear human enough, but enough to show him as a teenager.

Secondly, his 5 closest friends. Now, I'm not a great fan of the Pokemon anime, so I won't pretend to know all of the people you listed there. However, I did follow it for quite a while, so I'll take a guess. Misty and May were both main protagonists, much like Ash. They featured in every episode for the series' they starred in, were involved in all of Ash's escapades and overall share the limelight. However, despite the purported romance, it does boil down to the fact that Ash is, in essence, a kid. A young teenager. In the early seasons, he would have no real reason to have a relationship with women, aside from a friendship. However, as he grows older, throughout the progession of the show, obviously (assuming he's human) he would start to fall in love, correct?

Writers can't have that.

Why? Because it wouldn't fit. Pokemon is aimed at children (and no offence to yourself) who are young. Let's say, around 7-10 years old. How many 7-10 year olds want to sit and watch a drama about a young boy who slowly matures, and falls in love with his traveling companion, and best (human) friend? Or would they rather watch a show about a kid, seemingly about their age, give or take (since there's no mention of his age other than the opening episode) who has monster friends who he battles other like-minded people with, to become the best Trainer ever?

There's the nub of the problem. I'm not saying Ash shouldn't have an obvious in-show relationship. In fact, I reckon it'd add to his character. However, the target audience prevents it. Sure, the writers can put in subtle hints, and have kisses on the cheek, and starry eyes, but then it'd detract from the basic premise of the show - monsters beat up more monsters.

Good arguement. You are right, not very many 7-10 year olds are going to want to watch a romance drama type of show but still, he should at lea......oh wait you know I just remebered something. In the 6th movie he does make a passing reference to Misty and how he misses her so it is very obvious. But still I'd like to see him say it to a her face and vise versa.

 

[EscapeGoat_v1legacy]

Good arguement. You are right, not very many 7-10 year olds are going to want to watch a romance drama type of show but still, he should at lea......oh wait you know I just remebered something. In the 6th movie he does make a passing reference to Misty and how he misses her so it is very obvious. But still I'd like to see him say it to a her face and vise versa.

Thanks, but I'm going to have to take your word on the 6th movie stuff. I saw upto Pokemon 2000 and kinda stuck to the games after that, although I watched the anime for a few more seasons.

Still, even if he says "Oh I miss Misty", it doesn't really mean its a romance. Sounds to me like friendship. I mean, they traveled together for what, about two, three seasons? You don't travel around for that long without becoming friends.

And, to be fair, if Ash were ever to have an in-show relationship, my money'd be on Misty. It's the way she hates him the first few episodes that gave it away. I reckon the writers planned a romance and then gave up the complex and interesting character development for the monster fighting.

 

[RagnorakTres]

I think you'll find this explains all areas of Pokemon:
http://pokmonx.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=340
It's the Ash-in-a-coma theory
It's a bit long winded but give it a go.

That...was terrifyingly accurate...I could totally see a psych major writing a paper about it...

On topic, because if Ash gets a love interest, then there is a chance that the series would end. And nobody involved wants that. (Plus, I'm pretty sure that 4Kids or whoever has the .AM license is dumbing it down ridiculously much. I don't know for sure though, I've never seen the .JP original. But if they did anything like what they did with Yu-Gi-Oh...)

 

[minoes]

I think you'll find this explains all areas of Pokemon:
http://pokmonx.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=340
It's the Ash-in-a-coma theory
It's a bit long winded but give it a go.

Thats a bit too complicated for a TV show aimed at 7 year olds isn't it?

Well, that didn´t stop Chiaki Konaka from making "Digimon Tammers".

 

[internutt]

Wait. How OLD is Ash these days?

He started the journey when he was 10.

Come to think about it, what level is Pikachu? I saw a recent episode (Pearl starting area town) and Pikachu got its ass kicked in by a Starly I think it was. Surely if can beat a level 4 thing after 10 years of battling.

 

[ssgt splatter]

Wait. How OLD is Ash these days?

He started the journey when he was 10.

Come to think about it, what level is Pikachu? I saw a recent episode (Pearl starting area town) and Pikachu got its ass kicked in by a Starly I think it was. Surely if can beat a level 4 thing after 10 years of battling.

I have to say he's about 14-ish. I'm assuming at the end of each group of movies, he's 2 years older. So after the 5th movie, Latios/Latias, he was 12 and after the 9th movie, Temple of the Sea, he was 14.

 

[RTR]

I'm suprised as well that they haven't introduced that to the show and it's been around for over 10 years.