Pokemon Types

[zacobar]

It would make my day to see a Flying Eevee!

"Flyeon, use Wing Attack!"

*Eevee makes WTF face*

 

[ChocoFace]

I was on Tv Tropes, and on the Fridge Brilliance page for Pokemon, a troper had a good explanation for Psychic.

They're all based on children's basic fears, Ghosts, the Dark, and Bugs. Which makes sense in a way with psychology and fears we keep from when we were kids.

i'd say children are less afraid of bugs than adults, though.

 

[fletch_talon]

I have always wondered why some types are super effective against each other, and wondered if anyone can provide an explanation.
Psychic being super effective against Poison?
Bug being super effective against Psychic?
Ice being super effective against Dragon, but Electric isnt?

I don't know much about dragons so maybe there's something I'm missing about the last one. If anyone can explain the others to me that would be great.

A psychic pokemon uses its control of another pokemons body to essentially make it hurt itself (like throwing it against walls roofs and floors), I believe the logic here is that a poison pokemon could potentially have its own poison used against it.

Bugs aren't usually considered to be the most intelligent of creatures, the alien mentality of the creatures may offer them some advantage against a pokemon type that would generally sense other pokemon's minds and use them against them.

Dragons are traditionally large fire breathing lizards which spend a lot of time sleeping. Lizards being cold blooded don't do well in the cold. My theory is that the cold urges them to hibernate.

But that's just my justification.

 

[LeonLethality]

Grass!
THE KING OF ALL TYPES.
NOT USELESS AT ALL. NOT AT ALL.

Tangrowth is one of the best physical walls out there and Roserade has some damn good special attack. Grass types are awesome.

 

[lokun489]

Psychic types are all fears, bugs, ghost, and dark that's why.

 

[Helios_(DEL)]

Balancing.
Every game needs it.

'Nuff said.

Poison still gets owned though.

crobat, gengar shall i go on poison does not suck plus toxic in my opinion is a common wifi tactical move i wouldnt call this a "type that sucks"

 

[Urgh76]

The idea of a Psychic type is that it works like a human mind, and thus has the most common fears humans have (Bugs, the dark and Ghosts) as its weaknesses.

As for the rest, balancing.


Edit: Felt like this had to be included.

Made my day

OT: As many have said before: BALANCE

 

[KatieMatey]

Thanks everyone, I have never really seen it like that before. I think it also might have to do with balance too, they all have to be not effective or super effective against something.
Thanks for the help! Now I see it it's really obvious now haha

 

[Plucky]

I have always wondered why some types are super effective against each other, and wondered if anyone can provide an explanation.
Psychic being super effective against Poison?
Bug being super effective against Psychic?
Ice being super effective against Dragon, but Electric isnt?

I don't know much about dragons so maybe there's something I'm missing about the last one. If anyone can explain the others to me that would be great.

In a personal opinion, perhaps Poison being weak to Psychic could be because Psychic is known as the Esper type- in japan, maybe its a spiritually ascendent type that uses willpower to expunge themselves of the poisonous essence sort of like a physical impurity of the mind.

Bugs are quite mindless and often has traits that is usually annoying and/or scary to anything, constant buzzing or insects crawling allover your skin would disrupt your concentraition, would make sence why bug is super effective against Psychics.

Dragon being weak to Ice? perhaps being a Dragon type would result in the common elemental sturdyness it would entail to match their unusual movepools as protection, but Dragons are severely weak to Ice due to the Cold not naturally occuring in their Habitats?

100% of the above is probally made up or assumable fanon, however Psychic was really called Esper in Japan.

 

[Buizel91]

Balancing.
Every game needs it.

'Nuff said.

Poison still gets owned though.

Tell that to my Muk...i dare you...

And for balance...Pokemon in my opinion has one of the best balanced systems around.

 

[Anchupom]

Poison still gets owned though.

crobat, gengar shall i go on poison does not suck plus toxic in my opinion is a common wifi tactical move i wouldnt call this a "type that sucks"

Crobat and Gengar have secondary types, and toxic is one of the most versatile TMs.

That said, one of my favourite Pokemon is Vileplume, so I support the "Poison does not suck" hypothesis.
Oh and Koffing and Weezing are a pain in the ass to battle too, seeing as I don't usually stock Psychics in my party.

 

[Buizel91]

I think it's mostly for balance.

That's why they added/removed a few weaknesses in later games.

That said, I hate Gyarados, damn thing is used by every Dragon trainer but is Water/Flying so you need an electric pokemon in your party. Of course that electric pokemon is useless against everything else the trainer has.

Just toss Thunderbolt on anything that can learn it, and you're good to go. Or Thunderpunch. Lots of non-Elec pokemon can learn those.

I don't bother with electric types...Ice or Rock kill Flying types dead just as well.

Ice has no effect because of the Water type and Gyarados' ridiculously OP stats, Rock falls quickly to Hydro Pump. Back in the old days the plan was to use Articuno to beat everything but Gyarados for which Pikachu/Zapdos was reserved. Come to think of it you could wreck the majority of the Elite 4 with just Articuno.

Gyarados is hardly a problem... Many non rock type Pokemon can learn moves like Rock Slide, and many non electric types can learn Thunderbolt. Kengaskhan for example.

 

[Joshimodo]

I have always wondered why some types are super effective against each other, and wondered if anyone can provide an explanation.
Psychic being super effective against Poison?
Bug being super effective against Psychic?
Ice being super effective against Dragon, but Electric isnt?

I don't know much about dragons so maybe there's something I'm missing about the last one. If anyone can explain the others to me that would be great.

Psychic is clarity of mind, poison is impurity of body.

Bugs have low intelligence (less psychic signature), and small bodies, so less mass to throw around with telekinetic abilities.

Cold kills lizards, and thus dragons.


Any more?



You can walk through the Elite Four with Metagross and Mewtwo.

Metagross:
Zen Headbutt
Sludge Bomb or Hammer Arm
Meteor Mash
Ice Punch

Mewtwo:
Ice Beam
Flamethrower
Thunderbolt
Psychic

 

[smithy_2045]

You can walk through the Elite Four with Metagross and Mewtwo.

To be fair, Mewtwo can walk through just about anything.

 

[garjian]

its for balance...

poison just plain sucks

the poison-type is defensive, you dont use poison attacks even as a poison-type,
but as a poison type you resist many types, and have access to sleeps, paralyses, poisons, cunfuses etc.

Koga explains this well as a member of the elite four in Gold and Silver...
for example, the Poison and Dark typed Skuntank has both good combat abilities, and great defence, as its only weak to 1 type, ground. it also learn flamethrower and is capable of many other odd moves that make it both a confusing enemy to face, and a hard wall to take down. though, it has tgo be said, that a lot of things can use earthquake...

On your basis, why is dragon a good type?
dragon is only good against 1 thing, dragon. but dragon is equally resistant to many types... but has a few weaknesses... notably, ice beam.

Psychic is weak to Bug because in the first game, it was there only weakness... because dark didnt exist.

its all for balance.

 

[Kukakkau]

Psychic is weak to Bug because in the first game, it was there only weakness... because dark didnt exist.

its all for balance.

And ghost - even though there was no really good ghost moves and the only ghost type was always poison and weak to psychic...

There is a lot of type matchups that don't make a ton of sense but they're really just there for balance - rock beating flying just gives me the image of a bird flying into a cliff

 

[Joshimodo]

You can walk through the Elite Four with Metagross and Mewtwo.

To be fair, Mewtwo can walk through just about anything.

True, but his ability to learn 3 very common super effective moves (electric, ice, fire) combined with his obscene special attack stat allow him to solo them. Mewtwo with Ice Beam versus Lance is hilarious.

 

[tseroff]

Well I have an amazing Psychic team. Spent days EV training all my Pokemon for different strengths. And I got ripped apart by one Pokemon that was a slightly lower level than me. If anything is overpowered, it's a well trained Weavile. If you have a Pokemon with enough Special Att. to attack it, odds are you don't have enough Speed to hit it. Which is why my Psychic party now includes a bad-ass Weavile.
Side Note: Does anyone else find it odd that Psyduck and Golduck aren't Psychic-type? I guess this only bugs me because of my affinity for Psychics, but I love Golduck, and can't use him because he doesn't get STAB. *sigh*

 

[garjian]

Psychic is weak to Bug because in the first game, it was there only weakness... because dark didnt exist.

its all for balance.

And ghost - even though there was no really good ghost moves and the only ghost type was always poison and weak to psychic...
There is a lot of type matchups that don't make a ton of sense but they're really just there for balance - rock beating flying just gives me the image of a bird flying into a cliff

ghost was weak to psychic in the first game, and did x0 to psychic.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ghost_%28type%29#Generation_I

more edits:

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Psychic_%28type%29#Generation_I
only weakness is bug.