Police Attempt to Link Vicious Murder to D&D
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I live in the area of this crime. A glance at the local paper(yesterday's edition) shows that the murderer enjoys listening to 50 Cent, loves the movie The Sorcerer's Apprentice and is a fan of skiing, walking on the beach and studying the bible. If playing D&DO(which he apparently didn't even own, hence playing it at his friend's house) is a possible motive for the crime, why can't listening to rap, liking crappy Nic Cage movies and studying the Bible be motives as well? There was no reference to video games being a possible motive in any of the three articles ran by the paper.(Sidebar: The Seattle PI is an online-only newspaper. Its print division failed last year. The Seattle Times is a much better organization. They haven't mentioned a video game motive either.)
The PI's article is nothing more than an attempt to increase views on their website and create controversy. Shame on them. No wonder they went out of print.
The PI's article is nothing more than an attempt to increase views on their website and create controversy. Shame on them. No wonder they went out of print.
We are still blaming video games?
Why DnD? That seems....I dont know stupid... DDO was..amusing for the SCREAMING DOWN A HALLWAY LEFTCLICKING UNTIL EVERYTHING DIED way but...Murder?
Something is deeper and it aint video games...
Why DnD? That seems....I dont know stupid... DDO was..amusing for the SCREAMING DOWN A HALLWAY LEFTCLICKING UNTIL EVERYTHING DIED way but...Murder?
Something is deeper and it aint video games...
The part that got me was that he went to D&D for distraction. Really? Normally I would expect the kid to be playing more graphically violent games if they wanted to connect it to a crime. Maybe I just don't know because I don't play D&D, but does the game ever show a character getting raped or allow for rape to even occur?
Even if they do turn out to be right, as much of a long shot it is, for the kid to use D&D to vent his sexual frustrations is a bizarre and unique situation. What seems more likely is if the kid had sexual frustration issues the game would distract him from them, not encourage them.
Even if they do turn out to be right, as much of a long shot it is, for the kid to use D&D to vent his sexual frustrations is a bizarre and unique situation. What seems more likely is if the kid had sexual frustration issues the game would distract him from them, not encourage them.
*Klaxon sounds*
WARNING! FAITH IN HUMANITY REACHING CRITICAL LOW!
Seriously, blaming D&D was big about 3 decades ago. I like the police and all, but then they do stupid shit like this and force me to facepalm.
Clarification: No offense to any policemen who are on the Escapist. I'm more refering to the ones in the article.
It's true that I (and most people who play games) willfully break laws in video games, but would never think of doing so in real life. This guy was obviously very disturbed, but I don't think video games caused his behavior. As Andy said, they were akin to drinking to forget about a particular incident.
WARNING! FAITH IN HUMANITY REACHING CRITICAL LOW!
Seriously, blaming D&D was big about 3 decades ago. I like the police and all, but then they do stupid shit like this and force me to facepalm.
Clarification: No offense to any policemen who are on the Escapist. I'm more refering to the ones in the article.
I play DDO all the time. Rape is not possible in the game (and if it was it would be rated AO faster than you can say "canned bananas"). Murder is, obviously, but how else would you defeat Drow Scorpions or Duergar, reason with them? Because I tried that and it doesn't work.Cat Cloud said:
It's true that I (and most people who play games) willfully break laws in video games, but would never think of doing so in real life. This guy was obviously very disturbed, but I don't think video games caused his behavior. As Andy said, they were akin to drinking to forget about a particular incident.
D&D + Video games
What a terrible combination for right wing people who have never played either to believe they're the cause of a crime. I wish the kid had read a book "to forget".
What a terrible combination for right wing people who have never played either to believe they're the cause of a crime. I wish the kid had read a book "to forget".
Okay,okay everyone hold your horses! I think I've figured it out.
Okay, so the explaination is; ***** is crazy.
Okay, so the explaination is; ***** is crazy.
Talk about killing 2 birds with pne stone, managing to blame both role playing games and video games at once, this is genious
I guess they're sort of right. Since he did it afterwards to forget his horrible deeds, DnD was indeed his link back to reality.
In other words, it made him calm down.
In other words, it made him calm down.
Umm... isn't it the DEFENDANTS job to find minigating factors like this? They are not helping their case by trying to prove that an outside force influenced Tyler in his case. The less can be directly put onto him, the more the jury will lean on him and the higher the chance they will give them a lower sentence. They shouldn't be worried about the thing that he played AFTER the crime, but how to get him off the streets because as policemen that is what they are supposed to do.Andy Chalk said:
I totally missed the part in D&D where you rape and murder disabled girls. It's not like he was playing FATAL. Also, what is this: 1980?
I love how many of the "tough on crime" brigade are so keen to deflect the blame away from the perpetrator.
I've never played D&D Online, but I seriously doubt it has rape and I'm pretty sure noncombatant NPCs are unkillable like in WoW. There can be no other connection to make the game-as-a-motive link stick. If he was playing God of War and had a history of mental instability, the story would have a percent of credibility.
Calling bull here. Others have explained how by "the cops" they mean those particular cops which is a decent alibi. But right-wing? I don't see how support of free markets has anything to do with blaming games on murder. You're referring to stick-in-the-mud sheep, which I may remind you are on all sides of the spectrum, be it Conservative, Liberal, religious, or atheist.drummond13 said:
Also, everyone on this thread who hasn't already seen it needs to go find a copy of Mazes and Monsters now. Or at least go to http://spoonyexperiment.com/2010/08/01/mazes-monsters/ to get the gist of it.
Son of a... a thought we were past this crap. When will law enforcement stop looking for an easy target to blame and actually do their f***ing jobs. The is no evidence that video game have any significant influence on violent behaviour. The only times they had anything to do with violent crimes was when the perpetrator already had a predisposition to violence that drew them to the game.
I'm willing to bet my left nut that some Christian fundamentalist group's going to use this as a lobbying platform against either violence in video games or video games in general.
I'm willing to bet my left nut that some Christian fundamentalist group's going to use this as a lobbying platform against either violence in video games or video games in general.
If anyone is wondering why there's a picture of Tom hanks wearing a robe accompanying this article and what Mazes and Monsters is just watch this review. Seriously DnD? I thought we were done with this nonsense.
http://spoonyexperiment.com/2010/08/01/mazes-monsters/
http://spoonyexperiment.com/2010/08/01/mazes-monsters/
Cthuthlu damn these redneck, born-again, devil-fearing, hysterical cops; Cthuthlu damn the sensationalist, pandering, brain-dead media that enable them; and Cthuthlu damn all those close-minded, myopic, cross-hugging know-nothings who lap up these lame fantasies in order to prop up their prejudices and empty beliefs.
Sorry - I'm having mid-eighties flashbacks a lot these days between crap like this, Sarah Palin's Phyllis Schafley routine, and the Tea Party/Moral Majority bull. It's seems the world is determined to prove that history is doomed to repeat itself first as farce (tragedy is next time around).
Sorry - I'm having mid-eighties flashbacks a lot these days between crap like this, Sarah Palin's Phyllis Schafley routine, and the Tea Party/Moral Majority bull. It's seems the world is determined to prove that history is doomed to repeat itself first as farce (tragedy is next time around).