Police brutally beat a 15 year old girl

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Rajin Cajun

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stinkychops said:
Rajin Cajun said:
It is not and either of those three were acting like asshats like that in jail not only would I applaud the officer I would join in. Acting like some 12 year old punkass commie-fuck is not endearing or acceptable behavior in society though it seems to be on these forums.
Despite a large group of people saying the cop was correct (which I disagree to) you say that we have a lack of moral fibre? Also communists are generally more respectful/fearful than capitalist brats. Get over yourself and use some punctuation please.
Sure troll.
 

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Fire Daemon said:
Looks like she threw her shoes at the cop by flicking them off of her feet which I suppose if anybody did that it would result in them being slammed into the wall and then thrown on the ground. By her body language it was obvious that she was giving the officers lip, again, another stupid thing to do.

But no, she didn't deserve that amount of brutality (or any at all) and the police should have shown restraint when dealing with her. Any cop worth their badge should not deal with a 15 year old like that.

However I have not seen the big picture so I could be wrong.

Actually, come to think about it, it would be interesting to see what landed her in that cell and see if anybodies opinion changes.
My thoughts exactly
 

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boinx said:
wow, what a misleading open post. first off all, the video wasn't brutal neither did the cop even beat her.
Erm, what? Not brutal you say? Ok then...Anyways, the article says

'In his own report from the incident, Schene wrote that the shoe hit him in the right shin, "causing injury and pain." He wrote that he "placed" her into handcuffs and that she needed medical attention for a "panic attack."

He said a "blood filled pocket" formed on his shin, requiring treatment at Auburn General Hospital, according to his report. The video, however, appears to show his shin strike a metal toilet as he pushes the girl against the wall.'

Busted, Mr. Tough Guy. Watch for rogue toilets next time you attack a minor.
I hate to quote myself, but I feel that this tidbit was important. He apparently injured himself and then tried to pin it on the girl.
 

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My god, what a..(fill in the blank)

Btw, am I the only one that sees the time. 4:47am, I don't think typical jails have anyone up at almost 5 except guards. Not trying to make light on the subject but that was on my birthday too.
 

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I love it when people say how much they 'hate' the police, and then at the first sign of trouble you know what they'll do? Call the police. They are after all what holds society together. You think Anarchy would be preferable? Than you are deluded.

However I say hate the police all you like: Call them pigs, hate them till your eyes burn red. It's your right!

Why? Because it's the police duty, and part of their jobs to be held to a higher standard than the rest of us. That every misconduct and mistake, every misplaced burst of anger should be held against them. Who watches the watchmen? WE DO! It's the job of the civilian to judge the police, whether they like it or not. The Police are public servants after all, no matter how much many may refuse to see it that way.

As was once pointed out in a Terry Pratchett book of all things; The public outnumber the Police. Gangs and mob men often have more manpower and more firepower, even more funding. Police must walk a thin line where they can push and shove (Because like it or not that IS their job.) without crossing that line and becoming targets themselves. There are numerous examples of occasions when the police pushed too far and were taken down because of it. Riots where police are surrounded and killed, single officers becoming the targets of mobs, and so on. It's a tragic reality of their job.

That guy? Hold him up to justice, throw him into prison himself where he's not likely to last very long. Police who end up imprisoned never do. It's harsh, but it's just. And ultimately that's part of being a police officer: To accept that you're going to be held to a higher standard than anyone else.

Did that girl probably deserve it? Possibly. Anyone who's in prison at 15 and acting like that is more often than not scum-of-the earth material. Who knows, we're only getting a brief glimpse of what happened and there's undoubtedly more to the story. But that doesn't change the fact that an officer of the law should act better.
Terry Pratchett was not explaining away the excessive and over enthusiastic assault on a minor. I wonder how he would feel about his work being compared to this? The 'guard' series is a satirical look on common police stereotypes it has NOTHING to do with this sort of thing.
 

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didnt watch all of it, didnt need too

thats sick o_O i think teenage girls that get arrested are just stupid, but they dont deserve that!, if he has killed, he should be given the death sentence himself ¬_¬
 

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Simriel said:
Terry Pratchett was not explaining away the excessive and over enthusiastic assault on a minor. I wonder how he would feel about his work being compared to this? The 'guard' series is a satirical look on common police stereotypes it has NOTHING to do with this sort of thing.
I wasn't using it to explain away anything, where do you get that from?

I said that the cop in question should have the book thrown at him, thrown into prison himself and left in disgrace. I have no sympathy for anyone who would hurt a young girl no matter how much of an annoying twit they might be, and that it's a person in a position of power doing it? Disgusting, absolutely disgusting.

I mentioned Terry Pratchett because my post reminded me of Vimes speech in the book 'Feet of Clay' as an example towards the more general idea that the police need to be held to a higher standard, not only because they're public servants, but because frankly they're outnumbered and outgunned and thus need to keep the careful balance between push and shove. Follow?

On a fun side note, I got my first internet death-threat because of this topic for 'defending the pigs'. Yay right?
 

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What the hell is wrong with him?

The report indicates she was arrested for driving her moms car and she called the officer a fat pig. but they have been told far worse and there is NO action in that video that could possibly dictate that kind of response.
 

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The Madman said:
Simriel said:
Terry Pratchett was not explaining away the excessive and over enthusiastic assault on a minor. I wonder how he would feel about his work being compared to this? The 'guard' series is a satirical look on common police stereotypes it has NOTHING to do with this sort of thing.
I was using it to explain away anything, where do you get that from?

I said that the cop in question should have the book thrown at him, thrown into prison himself and left in disgrace. I have no sympathy for anyone who would hurt a young girl no matter how much of an annoying twit they might be, and that it's a person in a position of power doing it? Disgusting, absolutely disgusting.

I mentioned Terry Pratchett because my post reminded me of Vimes speech in the book 'Feet of Clay' as an example towards the more general idea that the police need to be held to a higher standard, not only because they're public servants, but because frankly they're outnumbered and outgunned and thus need to keep the careful balance between push and shove. Follow?

On a fun side note, I got my first internet death-threat because of this topic for 'defending the pigs'. Yay right?
Sorry... Overreaction... My sincerest apologies. I thought you where using Terry Pratchett to defend this deplorable event. Again, sorry...
 

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Whoa.
First off, You NEVER hit a girl unless you too are a girl. A man should NEVER strike a woman for any reason unless she is trying to kill him and it is self defense.
Secondly, What the HELL got him so pissed that he would go apeshit on that girl? She was probably being a ***** to him, but she's a GIRL and she's 15. You can't just go around beating the shit out of people because they call you names and fling a shoe at you. It looked like the shoe didn't even lift off the ground, it just kinda skidded out the door...

Goddamnit, this is exactly why I hate my fellow man. The entire world seems to be populated by a bunch of dickheads and oppressed idiots. The only good people brought into this world all just sorta give up and kill themselves. Shit like this, as well as Californian society (where I live), is all the reason I need to jump off a building.

Well Escapist, looks like we got our work cut out for us. There's 7 Billion assholes out there, and they're not gonna kill themselves... yet...

*grabs girlfriend and hides in bomb shelter*
 

The Madman

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Simriel said:
Sorry... Overreaction... My sincerest apologies. I thought you where using Terry Pratchett to defend this deplorable event. Again, sorry...
No problem. I can understand people getting worked up over something like that.

By the by, great taste in books!
 

Simriel

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The Madman said:
Simriel said:
Sorry... Overreaction... My sincerest apologies. I thought you where using Terry Pratchett to defend this deplorable event. Again, sorry...
No problem. I can understand people getting worked up over something like that.

By the by, great taste in books!
The discworld is one of the inspirations of my own creations. I adore each and every one of Mr Pratchett's novels.
 

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boinx said:
wow, what a misleading open post. first off all, the video wasn't brutal neither did the cop even beat her.
I think shoving someone against a wall, throwing them on the ground, punching them in the face, the grabing them by the PONYTAIL and picking them up counts as brutal.