Police pepper spray 8 year old

[Exia91]

It's pepper spray, it's not like they shot him, he'll get over it and learn a valuable lesson, murder people in an alley where no on can see you, Location Location Location.

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Justified, If the boy was wielding a weapon, whether it be sharp or blunt, I would not get anywhere near him for the sake of my own health. I'd pepperspray him, indeed.
The mom looks like she needs some parenting classes or something. Seriously, I big dislike by me against those new laws that are against spanking your kid (The Netherlands). It is the best way to raise kids. Doing wrong? Feel pain. You'll stop doing it soon enough. Human beings don't like being hurt.

 

[MindBullets]

Sounds like he needed to be stopped before he hurt someone. Better this than something causing permanent damage.

 

[Angry_squirrel]

The kid is 8. It's not exactly difficult for grown men to restrain an 8 year old, it's not like he had a knife or anything. And he's got anger issues yes, but consider where those anger issues might come from? I'd say school is a pretty safe bet. Although a terrible mother would be another likely reason.

The police used unnecessary force.

 

[vikeif]

I think that falls under excessive force. It's an 8 year old, he may not be fully aware of his actions and what he could do... but he's 8! He's probably not even strong enough to hurt someone with that stick he had.

oh for fuck sake, his ass will be fine. Children are a lot more resilient then our old asses. By nature, they're bones are harder to beak, the body haven't begun the cycle of breaking down like adults, and it's just pepper spray! shit is just painful, getting sand in you eyes is more damaging... Excessive force my ass... I got my ass beat for saying shit monkey when I was five, little shit got off easy.

 

[vikeif]

The kid is 8. It's not exactly difficult for grown men to restrain an 8 year old, it's not like he had a knife or anything. And he's got anger issues yes, but consider where those anger issues might come from? I'd say school is a pretty safe bet. Although a terrible mother would be another likely reason.

The police used unnecessary force.

HA! unnecessary!? If I'd had done that, my own mother would have beat me blind, and way I see it, that mace is gonna wear off far sooner than the ass beating from his parent and the mental scaring of the therapy that they are gonna force him into till he thinks he is a murder beast that should never see light of day.

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[Queen Michael]

I think it was justified. If you attack people with a stick and say you're going to kill them, then you have to take the consequences. I'm sure people can find things to complain about with the police's behaviour, but remember that hindsight is 20/20. Let's not forget that the kid was the one who started it.

 

[Angry_squirrel]

The kid is 8. It's not exactly difficult for grown men to restrain an 8 year old, it's not like he had a knife or anything. And he's got anger issues yes, but consider where those anger issues might come from? I'd say school is a pretty safe bet. Although a terrible mother would be another likely reason.

The police used unnecessary force.

HA! unnecessary!? If I'd had done that, my own mother would have beat me blind, and way I see it, that mace is gonna wear off far sooner than the ass beating from his parent and the mental scaring of the therapy that they are gonna force him into till he thinks he is a murder beast that should never see light of day.

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"mental scaring of the therapy"? Really? I think therapy would be a good thing, kid obviously has a lot of pent up anger and therapy might help him deal with that.
All I'm saying is that pepper spray was really unnecessary, any police officer who isn't capable of restraining an 8 year old needs to find a new line of work.

 

[Amarok]

Kids shouldn't get a free ride on anything. Little moppets hiding behind their cuteness (though having said that the kid in this video isn't making any excuses)

I say spray 'em, spray 'em hard.

 

[Kinguendo]

"Hes got a white flag!" - South Park

Its a freaking stick people, being used by a child. Do you know what you do? Take the stick away from him, just grab it. Whats he going to do? Pull out his well hidden shotgun? Or make his satellite shoot a lazer at you because he is clearly a criminal mastermind and you can never know what 8 YEAR OLDS are capable of?!

Seriously, how scared are you guys that an 8 year old poses a threat. No more little league baseball... cant just GIVE children bats, they might violently hit a ball with it or something! No more ice creams, those cones are pointy! Have you gone to restuarants lately? They are just arming children with knives and forks... what are they trying to do? Start a child army to take over the world?!

My advice to all police officers out there... if you are so cowardly that children register as threats to you then quit, its likely that you will come face to face with bigger things than children in your line of work.

 

[vikeif]

The kid is 8. It's not exactly difficult for grown men to restrain an 8 year old, it's not like he had a knife or anything. And he's got anger issues yes, but consider where those anger issues might come from? I'd say school is a pretty safe bet. Although a terrible mother would be another likely reason.

The police used unnecessary force.

HA! unnecessary!? If I'd had done that, my own mother would have beat me blind, and way I see it, that mace is gonna wear off far sooner than the ass beating from his parent and the mental scaring of the therapy that they are gonna force him into till he thinks he is a murder beast that should never see light of day.

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"mental scaring of the therapy"? Really? I think therapy would be a good thing, kid obviously has a lot of pent up anger and therapy might help him deal with that.
All I'm saying is that pepper spray was really unnecessary, any police officer who isn't capable of restraining an 8 year old needs to find a new line of work.

well ok it's not really the therapy but how people will treat him after this mostly, I would know they stuck me in it for punch some jerk at the lunch table for pouring milk on my pb&j

"All I'm saying is that pepper spray was really unnecessary, any police officer who isn't capable of restraining an 8 year old needs to find a new line of work."

So you want a 250lbs man to pin an 8 year old kid with police standard take down methods? Did you miss the news report where a cop tackled a running man and almost kill em? Mace DOESN'T DO PHYSICAL HARM, IT JUST HURTS!(sand in your eye is more damaging.) Maybe you want to see a grown man attack a hyper active brat with a stick, I rather see some efficiency

 

[vikeif]

"Hes got a white flag!" - South Park

Its a freaking stick people, being used by a child. Do you know what you do? Take the stick away from him, just grab it. Whats he going to do? Pull out his well hidden shotgun? Or make his satellite shoot a lazer at you because he is clearly a criminal mastermind and you can never know what 8 YEAR OLDS are capable of?!

Seriously, how scared are you guys that an 8 year old poses a threat. No more little league baseball... cant just GIVE children bats, they might violently hit a ball with it or something! No more ice creams, those cones are pointy! Have you gone to restuarants lately? They are just arming children with knives and forks... what are they trying to do? Start a child army to take over the world?!

My advice to all police officers out there... if you are so cowardly that children register as threats to you then quit, its likely that you will come face to face with bigger things than children in your line of work.

oh dear lord, REALLY!? Why does everyone want to see a grown man beat this kid down, mace is damn effective and goes away in a few min, Kid is fine, police are fine. Really think about if they didn't use it, and the cop hurt the kid bad with a take down maneuver, he's be fired, sued, maybe imprisoned, Not to mention what a grown man could do to the poor child by accident alone.

 

[sarge1942]

i think i need to see this stick, if it's like a spear then i can understand, if the kid was holding some thin little twig then... even so, maybe if they stopped excusing his behaviour he'd learn something. just watched the video, they should have talked to him for 5-10 minutes while he was swinging a stick and threatening to kill people? and that 8 year old kid was ripping apart the walls with his bare hands? at this point i'm waiting for him to turn green and start talking in third person about smashing things. in short, it was justified.

 

[Mad1Cow]

Yeah, because talking to him permanetely stopped him from doing it again didn't it misses, OH WAIT!

I'll stand by the police on this one, pepper spray isn't permanent and it leaves a permanent impression on the kid. He'll think twice now when he sharpens a stick, he'll go, "OH THEY HURT ME LAST TIME, I BETTER LISTEN TO THEM!"

Also the kids is such a bad liar, "do you think you'd have hurt your teachers if you weren't pepper sprayed?" "No..." yeah, great lie kid, learn your lesson, see ya in the army...

 

[FangShadow]

I hate to say it, but I think the police handled this one the best they could. The child did seemed to be going off excessively strong, and rather risk possibly seriously physically harming him trying to restrain him the pepper spray was quick and effective.

That said if their is training for these situations, I think officers should have it simply because it never hurts to be prepared.

I also think the location of this is important as well. This is in the same school district as columbine, that incident is like an old wound, healed with a scarring reminder. The boy mentioning violence and a death threat to the teachers is not good.

This is an awkward situation for all involved, but the boy made it out with little to no harm, so I don't think this should be an extreme national crisis.

 

[Angry_squirrel]

The kid is 8. It's not exactly difficult for grown men to restrain an 8 year old, it's not like he had a knife or anything. And he's got anger issues yes, but consider where those anger issues might come from? I'd say school is a pretty safe bet. Although a terrible mother would be another likely reason.

The police used unnecessary force.

HA! unnecessary!? If I'd had done that, my own mother would have beat me blind, and way I see it, that mace is gonna wear off far sooner than the ass beating from his parent and the mental scaring of the therapy that they are gonna force him into till he thinks he is a murder beast that should never see light of day.

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"mental scaring of the therapy"? Really? I think therapy would be a good thing, kid obviously has a lot of pent up anger and therapy might help him deal with that.
All I'm saying is that pepper spray was really unnecessary, any police officer who isn't capable of restraining an 8 year old needs to find a new line of work.

well ok it's not really the therapy but how people will treat him after this mostly, I would know they stuck me in it for punch some jerk at the lunch table for pouring milk on my pb&j

"All I'm saying is that pepper spray was really unnecessary, any police officer who isn't capable of restraining an 8 year old needs to find a new line of work."

So you want a 250lbs man to pin an 8 year old kid with police standard take down methods? Did you miss the news report where a cop tackled a running man and almost kill em? Mace DOES TO PHYSICAL HARM, IT JUST HURTS!(sand in your eye is more damaging.) Maybe you want to see a grown man attack a hyper active brat with a stick, I rather see some efficiency

I'll be honest I have no experience with pepper spray whatsoever (I'm British, I don't even think we have it here)
I was a lot like this when I was younger, and no one ever had any bother restraining me without hurting me.
In my experience fucked up kids are fucked up for a reason, in my case that reason was my parents breaking up and some very nasty bullying at school. That doesn't make it right, but I think people should be considering why it is that the kid has anger issues, and why he was threatening to kill the teachers.

 

[Kinguendo]

"Hes got a white flag!" - South Park

Its a freaking stick people, being used by a child. Do you know what you do? Take the stick away from him, just grab it. Whats he going to do? Pull out his well hidden shotgun? Or make his satellite shoot a lazer at you because he is clearly a criminal mastermind and you can never know what 8 YEAR OLDS are capable of?!

Seriously, how scared are you guys that an 8 year old poses a threat. No more little league baseball... cant just GIVE children bats, they might violently hit a ball with it or something! No more ice creams, those cones are pointy! Have you gone to restuarants lately? They are just arming children with knives and forks... what are they trying to do? Start a child army to take over the world?!

My advice to all police officers out there... if you are so cowardly that children register as threats to you then quit, its likely that you will come face to face with bigger things than children in your line of work.

oh dear lord, REALLY!? Why does everyone want to see a grown man beat this kid down, mace is damn effective and goes away in a few min, Kid is fine, police are fine. Really think about if they didn't use it, and the cop hurt the kid bad with a take down maneuver, he's be fired, sued, maybe imprisoned, Not to mention what a grown man could do to the poor child by accident alone.

No, you are right. The only option other than pepper spray is to kick the kids ass... not, maybe, take the stick off of him.

 

[vikeif]

The kid is 8. It's not exactly difficult for grown men to restrain an 8 year old, it's not like he had a knife or anything. And he's got anger issues yes, but consider where those anger issues might come from? I'd say school is a pretty safe bet. Although a terrible mother would be another likely reason.

The police used unnecessary force.

HA! unnecessary!? If I'd had done that, my own mother would have beat me blind, and way I see it, that mace is gonna wear off far sooner than the ass beating from his parent and the mental scaring of the therapy that they are gonna force him into till he thinks he is a murder beast that should never see light of day.

Edit: typos

"mental scaring of the therapy"? Really? I think therapy would be a good thing, kid obviously has a lot of pent up anger and therapy might help him deal with that.
All I'm saying is that pepper spray was really unnecessary, any police officer who isn't capable of restraining an 8 year old needs to find a new line of work.

well ok it's not really the therapy but how people will treat him after this mostly, I would know they stuck me in it for punch some jerk at the lunch table for pouring milk on my pb&j

"All I'm saying is that pepper spray was really unnecessary, any police officer who isn't capable of restraining an 8 year old needs to find a new line of work."

So you want a 250lbs man to pin an 8 year old kid with police standard take down methods? Did you miss the news report where a cop tackled a running man and almost kill em? Mace DOES TO PHYSICAL HARM, IT JUST HURTS!(sand in your eye is more damaging.) Maybe you want to see a grown man attack a hyper active brat with a stick, I rather see some efficiency

I'll be honest I have no experience with pepper spray whatsoever (I'm British, I don't even think we have it here)
I was a lot like this when I was younger, and no one ever had any bother restraining me without hurting me.
In my experience fucked up kids are fucked up for a reason, in my case that reason was my parents breaking up and some very nasty bullying at school. That doesn't make it right, but I think people should be considering why it is that the kid has anger issues, and why he was threatening to kill the teachers.

I fail to see how the police failed to restrain him here? and the mace is made so the accidental injuries DON'T happen. Kid maybe be fucked up, but this isn't the consern of the cops, their top priority her was to take the ***** down with damaging him. So they mace em, cuff em, haul him off so others can do their jobs.
seriously, we used to give life for this shit, so kid might need help, but he also doesn't need coddling, hell put his as in the military. Little discipline and some government paid for therapy and kid might come out great.

 

[Vrach]

He'll be fine. It's just pepper spray. That said, I do have a far more nagging question...

How is an 8 year old armed with a stick a lethal threat to two adults?

 

[TheXRatedDodo]

I think pepper spray is fine in this situation since parenting obviously has failed.

Don't be so hasty.
For most of my life I have been prone to have rages. The thing is, they are only brought on by other people being violent or abusive. If there is one thing I cannot stand, it is violent behaviour. I am as gentle as they come, which is the irony of the whole situation.
There was no problem with the way I was brought up, simply that it's always been in me, and once I snap, the rage has taken over and I'm no longer really "there."
I dare say it's probably a similar kind of thing for this kid.

My 2 cents.

 

[Danish rage]

So many misinformed people and posts here it hurts.