Also, they recruit ex-military and often train like the military. Whose job is to attack and destroy enemies of the state.
Police shoot and kill another black man in Minneapolis, Amir Locke
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Yeye I get it, people don't get to make assumptions based on a trait you have but you get to make assumptions about others. Sorry but I bothered to respond because statistics are very clear: American police officers kill people of all races unjustly. A pattern that shows it proportionally happens more to one group doesn't allow you to make assumptions about every single individual case. That's exactly the type of excuses racists use to justify their assumptions.
Yes, but it still happens more to minorities, or those that are not straight more often the ones that are white or are assumed or taken for white. It don't try to pull this hole you're just like the races for justifying the racism. That's bull crap. I didn't see every single case. That's you putting words in my mouth. Like I said before, this discussion is over and I know you buy this point. You have evidence of gold posting or putting what about is them. I've seen enough your post to know who you are. As far as I'm concerned discussion is over. Don't bother responding to me again.
Eh, you can't generally point to one particular shooting and say "this was due to racism" (unless they make it blatant). We know that there's a pattern, but it's possible to say "we don't know about this one particular case" about every case and the pattern might seem to fade away (for some) if you say it loudly and repeated. Make people focus on the trees and they don't have to see the forest.
The feeling is mutual.
Heh? In some shootings evidence of racism is more or less present. And you can easily accept that you aren't able to judge every individual case on its racial component without obfuscating the overall pattern which suggests there is a racial issue.
Unlike you, I don't goal post and do what aboutism constantly.
Back to the actual important mattters keeping this thread focused.
Like I said before, black still get it worse than most of the races in America when it comes to the police. It's a depressing and sad truth.
Grand Rapids police have drawn outrage for years for pulling guns on minority residents
The department has faced renewed criticism over the past week after an officer on April 4 fatally shot 26-year-old Patrick Lyoya.
www.mlive.com
The avatar change tripped me up for a second, but I still figured out who I was reading before looking at the user name.
What? Either you are mistaken me for someone else or you are even worse in English than me.
In this case what did I do to move the goal post? And where is the Whataboutism ? First I said that in this case both the police officer and the victim had been in the wrong because the police officer shouldn't have used lethal force and the victim shouldn't have resisted arrest. I also added that the American police has real issues when it comes down to using lethal force and dealing with people in general. Finally I questioned on which basis one can assume this particular event occurred due to the victim's race knowing that people get shot by the police unjustly regardless of race and no particular elements have been brought up to suggest this was racially motivated. This is not whataboutism, this is just pointing out the obvious.
I am not saying we shouldn't care a black person got shot because white people get shot nor am i trying to divert the attention from one to the other. I am saying we know people get unjustly shot for other reasons than racism and this event has no evidence racism was a contributing factor. This doesn't mean the event is any less tragic nor does this invalidate the overarching pattern. I
Only racial issues are important, got it.
And I have never questioned that.Like I said before, black still get it worse than most of the races in America when it comes to the police. It's a depressing and sad truth.
Grand Rapids police have drawn outrage for years for pulling guns on minority residents
The department has faced renewed criticism over the past week after an officer on April 4 fatally shot 26-year-old Patrick Lyoya.
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I mean, we literally spend enormous amounts of taxpayer dollars sending them to Killology Seminars.
I'm not making that name up! They chose it themselves!
You don't get shit and you never will. Race, sex, gender, you name it, the police had more than enough sense of abusing others that are not white, not straight, not mail, or not the exact same freaking religion. You're not a genius so, quit acting like it.
Highly debatable. Except you just have. Before you ask when and where, you can figure it out.
Ah yes, I remember that episode. It's rather funny how John Oliver's show always ends up being both funny and sad for the same reasons. It's funny because of how ridiculous the things he brings up are and it's sad because you realize it's not a movie but RL.
I am not acting like a genius at all. You however do act like you're all high and mighty and get to make things up about others. You get to decide people's motives, intentions and even make up events. Still waiting on the whataboutisms and moved goal posts.
I also find it funny you mention "abusing others that are not male", I am not really sure where you were trying to get at with the sentence but based on your ideology and the other attributes brought up in that phrase I don't think you should have brought up "male". Because if there is one element that pops up even more than "black" in headlines which involve police shootings it's "man".
One day you'll wake up from your neo progressive nightmare and you will for example notice that plenty of countries which didn't solve racism but did train their police decently have dramatically reduced unjust police shootings across all races. Maybe that day you will realize that what you seem to believe is the only important element in such events is actually not even the most important one. Until than have sweet dreams?
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Resisting Arrest: Laws, Penalties, and Defenses
Resisting arrest (or obstruction) occurs when a person interferes with a police officer’s attempt to perform a lawful arrest. The crime can be a felony or misdemea
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Just checked. The punishment for resisting arrest isn't being executed in the street without a trial. The man had been subdued. You're claiming both men acted inappropriately, but to be clear, one man resisted arrest and the other murdered a man in cold blood. "shouldn't have resisted" is an absolutely nothing argument because nobody "should" break any laws so you're argument can be applied to literally any crime.
Also what was he being arrested for? Because when a woman in the UK was raped and murdered by a police officer the police commissioner came out and said she should have been aware of her rights and not have blindly complied with the officer. So which fucking is it then? Should we just comply and submit to their authority at all times? Or should we know our rights and resist if we believe the officer is in the wrong?
Edit :actually fuck it. If that's the standard we're going to live by and both men did something they shouldn't. The police officer should be dragged onto the street held down and shot. Because that's how we punish lawbreaking now. Somebody should kill him.
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So he deserved it? Fuck that. I'm sick of being told we're at fault for abusive cops.
Exactly why I have his butt on ignore. All he's been doing is goal posting and making excuses for murder.Resisting Arrest: Laws, Penalties, and Defenses
Resisting arrest (or obstruction) occurs when a person interferes with a police officer’s attempt to perform a lawful arrest. The crime can be a felony or misdemea
Just checked. The punishment for resisting arrest isn't being executed in the street without a trial. The man had been subdued. You're claiming both men acted inappropriately, but to be clear, one man resisted arrest and the other murdered a man in cold blood. "shouldn't have resisted" is an absolutely nothing argument because nobody "should" break any laws so you're argument can be applied to literally any crime.
Also what was he being arrested for? Because when a woman in the UK was raped and murdered by a police officer the police commissioner came out and said she should have been aware of her rights and not have blindly complied with the officer. So which fucking is it then? Should we just comply and submit to their authority at all times? Or should we know our rights and resist if we believe the officer is in the wrong?
Edit :actually fuck it. If that's the standard we're going to live by and both men did something they shouldn't. The police officer should be dragged onto the street held down and shot. Because that's how we punish lawbreaking now. Somebody should kill him.
No no, the shot SHOULDN'T have been fired. But we shouldn't just pretend he didn't resist arrest several times and that such behavior is not prudent and should be discouraged.
It is discouraged. It is a crime that he could have been charged with. That's how it's discouraged. What this officer did was press the barrell of a gun against a fully subdued man, pinned and cuffed, and pulled the trigger. Executing him on the street. So once again, I'm saying, if that is the standard we're going to live by, then someone should drag that police officer onto the road and blow his brains out while one of his friends watches.
Because it's slightly easier for the usual suspect to justify or make false equivalences if you don't fit their idea of what you should do when faced with your murderer in the moments before you are murdered.
Yes. It sucks ass and shouldn't be that way, but you have to deal with reality as it is if you want to change it