Police shoot and kill another black man in Minneapolis, Amir Locke

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The fact that the NRA doesn't react to black gun owners getting killed by police is the reason that they're a racist organization rather than a legitimate gun rights organization.
The NRA has been a front for political money laundering from other countries for decades. The whole gun and second amendment thing is part of the song and dance show for their idiot members. The real purpose is to allow foreign governments to make donations to politicians in the US.
 

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The fact that the NRA doesn't react to black gun owners getting killed by police is the reason that they're a racist organization rather than a legitimate gun rights organization.
The NRA long ago gave up their supposed role of supporting the Second Amendment and promoting firearms safety. They're now a refuge for angry white men who can't handle a world that no longer worships them, as is their (supposed) birthright.
 
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I wonder what the excuse is going to be when the police have the most dangerous parts of their jobs be automated by robots such as ones being made by Boston Dynamics, 'well you see the reason that robot was armed, and killed someone even if it's a robot that has build-in kevlar is because those robots cost lots of money.

By the way, I think that police robots shouldn't be armed.
 

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I think police robots shouldn't be.
Hard disagree, since the military will likely fight wars with either proxy wars or direct conventional wars with China or Russia or maybe Iran they will likely have lots of surplus military gear, and equipment like robots, thus they will likely want a place to either sell it or give it to police stations. (Case in point MRAPs from the middle eastern wars) You won't have a choice, they are coming.

And yes there will be pushback at first like the Xbox One being a non-disc, and hates used games video game consoles, or the NYPD doing robot dogs. But what we don't realize is that progressives, liberals, and the left don't win on everything.

Progressives/the relative left(generally Democrats) haven't won on dark money funding congress which has gotten worse, wall street regulation, the federal minimum wage, military spending, and even the top marginal tax wage which is still lower than the pre-Trump years.

Now as to why they are better than armed police officers. Because you can use unarmed robot police vs armed police officers, and thanks to the fact that the entire US has more guns than people, unarmed police aren't politically viable, and given how people have reacted to political campaigns to defund the police, I would say that assessment has been correct.
 

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There have been a couple of conservative 2A supporters on Locke's side. They get yelled at by the rest of the conservative 2A enthusiasts for being anti-cop... in this case.
I don't understand why people who are pro-second amendment are supposed to be pro-cop. The reason that someone would have a gun is because they don't trust the state to be able to protect them. So why would someone be pro-police when by owning a gun they already demonstrated that they don't trust the police to effectively do their jobs?
 
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Hard disagree, since the military will likely fight wars with either proxy wars or direct conventional wars with China or Russia or maybe Iran they will likely have lots of surplus military gear, and equipment like robots, thus they will likely want a place to either sell it or give it to police stations. (Case in point MRAPs from the middle eastern wars) You won't have a choice, they are coming.
None of these are reasons that police robots should be a thing.
 

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I don't understand why people who are pro-second amendment are supposed to be pro-cop. The reason that someone would have a gun is because they don't trust the state to be able to protect them. So why would someone to pro-police when by owning a gun they already demonstrated that they don't trust the police to effectively do their jobs?
Well that's not always explicitly true, but yes, as far as these people are concerned they're stuck between "the second amendment exists to stop the republic from becoming a tyranny!" and "police can't be wrong unless they wrong me!"
 

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Well that's not always explicitly true, but yes, as far as these people are concerned they're stuck between "the second amendment exists to stop the republic from becoming a tyranny!" and "police can't be wrong unless they wrong me!"
If the second amendment exists to stop the republic from becoming a tyranny, and it's not being used to stop the republic from becoming a tyranny, then clearly that means we don't live in a tyranny. That's just logic.
 
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I know the shooting is important, guys, but the fact that this guy Amir wasn't even on the warrant is pretty important too
 

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Now as to why they are better than armed police officers. Because you can use unarmed robot police vs armed police officers, and thanks to the fact that the entire US has more guns than people, unarmed police aren't politically viable, and given how people have reacted to political campaigns to defund the police, I would say that assessment has been correct.
I'm amazed you haven't clocked the far more exceptional fact that there are political campaigns to defund the police.
 
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I don't understand why people who are pro-second amendment are supposed to be pro-cop. The reason that someone would have a gun is because they don't trust the state to be able to protect them. So why would someone be pro-police when by owning a gun they already demonstrated that they don't trust the police to effectively do their jobs?
There is a subsection of these pro-cops who aren't into law and order. They see the cops as extensions of their ideals. They keep those who need to be kept down, just as God intended.

And those supporters play dress up in their little militias and hope to God for the Race War so they can put those others down with impunity. And in their minds, the cops will fall right in step with them to 'cleanse' us.
 
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I don't understand why people who are pro-second amendment are supposed to be pro-cop. The reason that someone would have a gun is because they don't trust the state to be able to protect them. So why would someone be pro-police when by owning a gun they already demonstrated that they don't trust the police to effectively do their jobs?
There's perhaps not a direct relationship, but people who favour the 2nd amendment tend to be conservative, and conservatives place a higher value on social order and have a higher faith in authority - thus trust in the police force.
 

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Also, remember when Occupy happened, and a bunch of people suddenly found out that police will beat certain people up for no reason because they temporarily got to be one of those certain people? Nothing unusual going on, but it was shocking when it happened to them.
 
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I don't understand why people who are pro-second amendment are supposed to be pro-cop. The reason that someone would have a gun is because they don't trust the state to be able to protect them. So why would someone be pro-police when by owning a gun they already demonstrated that they don't trust the police to effectively do their jobs?
Because they expect the police to be their "enforcers", keeping "those people" "in their place" lest they rise up. "Leave me alone and go get those people; they're the problem!"
 
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I know the shooting is important, guys, but the fact that this guy Amir wasn't even on the warrant is pretty important too
Accurate. I actually haven't seen concrete evidence that they broke into the right apartment. It'd be especially awkward if whoever they were actually looking for lived somewhere else.