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Denamic said:
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Actually Rabies is a Infection, not a disease.
...what?
By starting your post saying stupid things, you immediately make people take you less seriously.
It's an infectious viral disease.
There are also around a hundred or more variations and separate strains of rabies all around the world. Squirrels and other rodent type animals (Especially skunks and foxes) contract rabies more than any other animal. It's because of rodents that rabies get spread to house pets and stray dogs because they bite the animals when the dogs or cats attempt to kill or eat the smaller animal.
Point being?
direkiller said:
a rodent dose not have the same immune system humans have(hence the reason they dont live as long) they can get diseases from anything
Biology was not your strong subject, was it?
I'm not even going to try.
A infection is something that is transmitted through a wound or direct contact such as saliva (Which is how you get Rabies). A disease is a illness or germ that usually infects people through the air or indirect contact. The difference is that diseases are also usually contracted from non-living organisms or by simply developing it naturally (Such as cancer). Rabies also kills faster than a Disease does, it takes around 14 days to spread through your entire body and cause death. Normally most diseases will eat away at a persons body or immune system for a lengthy period of time before someone will succumb to the effects.

Most diseases also cannot be cured because they infect certain parts of the body (Such as the liver or intestines) and adapt to become resistant to medicine. However a infection like Rabies does not affect a specific part of the body while adapting, it simply moves through the body infecting everything until it reaches the brain, then it moves and spreads into the rest of the body INFECTING everything. A disease will however have specific characteristics that can normally be tracked and treated to a certain degree, but Rabies cannot be treated at all once it has reached the brain. Not to mention the fact that Rabies travels through the bloodstream to infect the body, while a disease can have any number of ways to grow and spread.

The main difference overall is that Rabies infects and changes the way the cells in the body act, but a disease will normally grow and destroy the cells in a body. The term 'Infectious Viral Disease' is correct, however by claiming that referring to it as a 'Infection' is incorrect and then insulting me, you are wrong. While rabies is CLASSIFIED as a disease, it is spread as a infection and that is also what it literally is (You cannot contract rabies from the air or by touching a piece of wood that a infected animal chewed a week prior, thus it is referred to as a infection for needing direct viral contact with your blood or body such as saliva). I am not saying you are wrong in the way you phrased it, but the fact that you ignorantly shoved aside other opinions or statements is a reason that I need to explain my own side.

Also a side note is that a Disease cannot normally be treated through medicine in a short period of time once it has been contracted, but Rabies as an infection can be immediately treated if it hasn't reached the brain or any critical organs in the body. And my whole point to begin with when I first replied to your statement, was how you were talking about rodents getting diseases from humans, but I was just stating that because it is a infection and that rodents most commonly have it, that they are the ones who actually spread it to humans and animals and not the other way around.
 

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One Hit Noob said:
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Regardless of the moral implications of that video, the level to which the officer was afraid of the baby squirrel made me snort coffee out of my nose.

Seriously? People need to spend more time around animals. Small infected rodents are best dealt with by way of boot heel, not rape repellent. Sometimes, when state code requires that an animal be terminated, it is best to humanly and quickly end its life, not torture it because you are afraid there is a small chance you will have to get a few (albeit painful) shots.
I would be afraid of the squirrel if it was rabid. Also, it WASN'T tortured.
Have you ever seen a baby squirrel up close? You would have to sit and lovingly bring its mouth up to some small flap of skin on your body and coo encouragement at it for it to be successful in getting its teeth into your skin. Unless you are planning on assaulting it with your face on the ground, your mighty pants will save you from the infant rodent.

Have you ever been hit by pepper spray? My friend thought it would be funny to test it out on me. It is torture. It's not like being snapped my a towel. It's not momentary unpleasantness that quickly dissipates. It stays the fuck with you.

Also, keep in mind that this was pepper spray designed to repel HUMANS. Imagine of someone created a noxious chemical designed to pacify DRAGONS and then sprayed it in your face!

I worked on a farm for five years and was bitten by a rabid coyote. Getting rabies does not, by any far stretch of the imagination, equate death. It means a series of painful shots over a long period of time. Not fun, but not that scary.

EDIT: OK, to be more specific, contracting the rabies VIRUS wont kill you. If you get it treated immediately, you'll be hunky dory. If you aren't aware that you have it and it progresses to full on rabies, then you're screwed. Even survivors sustain permanent neurological damage. It's kind of like cancer. Get it fixed super early, and you'll be OK.
 

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Harry Mason said:
One Hit Noob said:
Harry Mason said:
Regardless of the moral implications of that video, the level to which the officer was afraid of the baby squirrel made me snort coffee out of my nose.

Seriously? People need to spend more time around animals. Small infected rodents are best dealt with by way of boot heel, not rape repellent. Sometimes, when state code requires that an animal be terminated, it is best to humanly and quickly end its life, not torture it because you are afraid there is a small chance you will have to get a few (albeit painful) shots.
I would be afraid of the squirrel if it was rabid. Also, it WASN'T tortured.
Have you ever seen a baby squirrel up close? You would have to sit and lovingly bring its mouth up to some small flap of skin on your body and coo encouragement at it for it to be successful in getting its teeth into your skin. Unless you are planning on assaulting it with your face on the ground, your mighty pants will save you from the infant rodent.

Have you ever been hit by pepper spray? My friend thought it would be funny to test it out on me. It is torture. It's not like being snapped my a towel. It's not momentary unpleasantness that quickly dissipates. It stays the fuck with you.

Also, keep in mind that this was pepper spray designed to repel HUMANS. Imagine of someone created a noxious chemical designed to pacify DRAGONS and then sprayed it in your face!

I worked on a farm for five years and was bitten by a rabid coyote. Getting rabies does not, by any far stretch of the imagination, equate death. It means a series of painful shots over a long period of time. Not fun, but not that scary.
It's called Bear mace and it will melt your face off. Second, its a squirrel not a human being, they typically have rabies or are treated as such in the US and they do not take lightly to them approaching children. What you probably won't hear is how it was caught taken to a lab tested for rabies and then released.
 

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Well he tried bless him. Not the best equipped person for dealing with a possibly dangerous Infectious animal.
 

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Tsaba said:
It's called Bear mace and it will melt your face off. Second, its a squirrel not a human being, they typically have rabies or are treated as such in the US and they do not take lightly to them approaching children. What you probably won't hear is how it was caught taken to a lab tested for rabies and then released.
Ugh. Bear mace. *Shudder*

Are you saying that this baby squirrel was released?

At least in my state, there is a strict "euthanize absolutely everything every time" policy. I once had a heated argument with animal control because they were required to terminate a terrified bat because it was taking refuge in a basketball gym. They stated that they knew the bat was no harm, but code required euthanasia on the spot. I'd relocated dozens of bats, and had a special soft spot for them, so I was suitably displeased.

If there is a US state that allows potentially rabid, non-canine or feline animals to be tested and released, I'd like to know where it is.
 

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Only in America...
We can't really comment grey squirrels are classified as vermin in the UK we cull thousands every year to keep the red population from going extinct. You know it's actually illegal to release them if caught?
 

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1.if it was rabid why didnt they put the fucking kids inside.
2.like many said...why call the cops? why a regular cop? why not animal patrol?
and 3,
When I was that age our school caretaker(Janitor for my U.S. Escapists) regularly dealt with wild dogs,cats,horses and one time a stray camel(I kid you not it ran away from a circus and picked our Primary schools garden for a lunch time snack!),if itd been him,rabies or not,hed have put on his wellies,overalls and upturned a fucking empty bin over the poor little bastard,or borrowed a cage from one of our school rodent pets and put it over it until we could decide whether it needed a vet,an animal warden etc.
American cops are turning out to be right cunts nowadays,glad i put off my plan to go live with you guys.that shit sucks.
 

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Harry Mason said:
Ugh. Bear mace. *Shudder*

Are you saying that this baby squirrel was released?

At least in my state, there is a strict "euthanize absolutely everything every time" policy. I once had a heated argument with animal control because they were required to terminate a terrified bat because it was taking refuge in a basketball gym. They stated that they knew the bat was no harm, but code required euthanasia on the spot. I'd relocated dozens of bats, and had a special soft spot for them, so I was suitably displeased.

If there is a US state that allows potentially rabid, non-canine or feline animals to be tested and released, I'd like to know where it is.
Well, if you read the article it says the school called animal control who caught it to "clean it" and later released it, that's why I'm saying that what you won't hear is of them doing a quick rabies test. That's what they do in Indiana at least, the grey squirrels shouldn't be your worry, it's the black ones you got to look out for >.>;;
 

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Now THIS is fucking silly,

alright, the officer may have had no other choice,
but that choice he DID have is just damn hilarious,
 

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If it was possibly rabid. They should've called animal control to the scene. Not the police. If it's a small community the humane society... Either way pepper spraying an animal is pretty stupid.
 

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Private Custard said:
BEHOLD, THE HORROR OF THE SQUIRREL!



This is animal cruelty, which, last time I checked, was a criminal offense.
Holy shit, according to a bunch of people defending the jackass cop on this thread that guy is probably dead from squirrel rabies! Damn, shoulda had his pepper spray...for a wee little squirrel. Yeah, can't protect ourselves any other way no doubt.
 

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Tsaba said:
Harry Mason said:
Ugh. Bear mace. *Shudder*

Are you saying that this baby squirrel was released?

At least in my state, there is a strict "euthanize absolutely everything every time" policy. I once had a heated argument with animal control because they were required to terminate a terrified bat because it was taking refuge in a basketball gym. They stated that they knew the bat was no harm, but code required euthanasia on the spot. I'd relocated dozens of bats, and had a special soft spot for them, so I was suitably displeased.

If there is a US state that allows potentially rabid, non-canine or feline animals to be tested and released, I'd like to know where it is.
Well, if you read the article it says the school called animal control who caught it to "clean it" and later released it, that's why I'm saying that what you won't hear is of them doing a quick rabies test.
...Weird.
So if it wasn't rabid, that baby squirrel had chutzpah!

Perhaps I should read attached articles before I lecture people on the aggressiveness of Animal Control! Apologies.
 

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Guys, I don't think you've read the whole story. Apparently this squirrel had just committed armed robbery and was trying to make a run for it. The cop, knowing the suspect was carrying a .22 glock, responded in an appropriate manner. Don't judge someone unless you know the whole story. This cop put his life on the line to save those hypocritical (and female, from the sound of it) hippies and he gets ridiculed.
 

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Harry Mason said:
...Weird.
So if it wasn't rabid, that baby squirrel had chutzpah!

Perhaps I should read attached articles before I lecture people on the aggressiveness of Animal Control! Apologies.
Not your fault entirely, I blame the OP, it's his fault for not really posting all the info, you took what you saw at face value.
 

Zaik

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Sounds like any rage can be directed here:

http://www.mesquiteisd.org/

"Officer Davis" is probably a police officer who is assigned to just sit at the school all day waiting for something to happen.

I don't really care either way though. Just adding fuel to the e-fire.
 

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This whole video is just irritating, mostly because of the people in the back ground, shut up and let the guy do his fucking job. Sure there was probably a better tool to use then Pepper spray, but if a potentially rabid woodland creature is spazing out near children then I'm on the side of the guy trying to get rid of it.
 

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ace_of_something said:
If it was possibly rabid. They should've called animal control to the scene. Not the police. If it's a small community the humane society... Either way pepper spraying an animal is pretty stupid.
Yea, they usually just kill the animal anyway. And why all the reactions on this? Since I last checked, people doesn't seem to care about when people are killed or dies. When an animal is just being more or less 'morally taken care of' due to possible infection, people flip out -.-'

But they should have called animal control instead as you say.