Political Rant #1 Legalizing marijuana

[Panzer_God]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

not at all.. it's less dangerous than alcohol and tobacco, no one ever died because of marijuana

Not directly, but people have been turned into insane paranoid wrecks and committed suicide because of it. However, people only get addicted when your your dealer mixes it with tobacco, which is about 97% of the time.

Which is why it should be legalized, if it's distributed by reliable vendors it wouldn't be mixed with anything, it wouldn't contain pesticides and it wouldn't have many of the dangers people tend to whine about.

i see you ignored that bit, the part which says "don't legalise me, 'cos i'll kill your brain!"

Of course I did, because it's baseless rumors

 

[Deathsong17]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

not at all.. it's less dangerous than alcohol and tobacco, no one ever died because of marijuana

Not directly, but people have been turned into insane paranoid wrecks and committed suicide because of it. However, people only get addicted when your your dealer mixes it with tobacco, which is about 97% of the time.

Which is why it should be legalized, if it's distributed by reliable vendors it wouldn't be mixed with anything, it wouldn't contain pesticides and it wouldn't have many of the dangers people tend to whine about.

i see you ignored that bit, the part which says "don't legalise me, 'cos i'll kill your brain!"

Of course I did, because it's baseless rumors

Whatever you say so, you obviously know more than scientists do...

 

[Lord Krunk]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

not at all.. it's less dangerous than alcohol and tobacco, no one ever died because of marijuana

Not directly, but people have been turned into insane paranoid wrecks and committed suicide because of it. However, people only get addicted when your your dealer mixes it with tobacco, which is about 97% of the time.

Which is why it should be legalized, if it's distributed by reliable vendors it wouldn't be mixed with anything, it wouldn't contain pesticides and it wouldn't have many of the dangers people tend to whine about.

i see you ignored that bit, the part which says "don't legalise me, 'cos i'll kill your brain!"

Of course I did, because it's baseless rumors

I have an addicted cousin that wrecked last year's Christmas party by beating up his sister.

You know why?

Because she was driving away his dealer (pot). And that's only the start of what happened.

Baseless rumours, huh?

 

[Panzer_God]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

not at all.. it's less dangerous than alcohol and tobacco, no one ever died because of marijuana

Not directly, but people have been turned into insane paranoid wrecks and committed suicide because of it. However, people only get addicted when your your dealer mixes it with tobacco, which is about 97% of the time.

Which is why it should be legalized, if it's distributed by reliable vendors it wouldn't be mixed with anything, it wouldn't contain pesticides and it wouldn't have many of the dangers people tend to whine about.

i see you ignored that bit, the part which says "don't legalise me, 'cos i'll kill your brain!"

Of course I did, because it's baseless rumors

I have an addicted cousin that wrecked last year's Christmas party by beating up his sister.

You know why?

Because she was driving away his dealer (pot). And that's only the start of what happened.

Baseless rumours, huh?

Once someone gets hooked then all bets are off, but that's not what pot does to you unless some asshole puts something in there. and again if it were legal there would be no dealers. Besides, I had a drunken uncle who beat me, my aunt and my baby cousin when he drank. So I have no sympathy for you

 

[manicfoot]

I'm for this. Making it legal would mean enforcing quality control, meaning less chance of bad weed going around and that generally is what messes people up. You don't even have to smoke it either. Just put some in a cup of tea or something It tastes horrible though. I don't really like the stuff heh.

 

[Panzer_God]

I'm for this. Making it legal would mean enforcing quality control, meaning less chance of bad weed going around and that generally is what messes people up. You don't even have to smoke it either. Just put some in a cup of tea or something It tastes horrible though. I don't really like the stuff heh.

That's what I've been trying to tell these two since I started this thread.

 

[Inco]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

Not as much as tobacco, but still addictive.

I don't think that pot should be legalised at all. It may have no short-term physical effects, but what it does do is turn perfectly normal people into black-eyed dopes. Really, we don't need any more of them than we already have.

Exactly what i was thinking...

 

[Yamiki]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

not at all.. it's less dangerous than alcohol and tobacco, no one ever died because of marijuana

Not directly, but people have been turned into insane paranoid wrecks and committed suicide because of it. However, people only get addicted when your your dealer mixes it with tobacco, which is about 97% of the time.

Which is why it should be legalized, if it's distributed by reliable vendors it wouldn't be mixed with anything, it wouldn't contain pesticides and it wouldn't have many of the dangers people tend to whine about.

i see you ignored that bit, the part which says "don't legalise me, 'cos i'll kill your brain!"

Of course I did, because it's baseless rumors

Whatever you say so, you obviously know more than scientists do...

Seriously, there is no scientifical proof that small amounts of marijuana will cause any brain damage (in a person who has no history of mental history).

Moderation is the key, 1 beer wont cause liver failure, just like 1 joint wont cause schizophrenia.
I would like to see decrimilisation of small amounts of Marijuana for personal use but then again if a full decrimilisation happened, my worry would be, could we trust the general populace to use Marijuana wisely. ??

I personally enjoy having a coupla cones with mates and sitting back watching movies, how am I being a menace to society, I hold down 2 Jobs, full time study and 2 sport in which I represent my university ... I fail to see where I have been turned into a "black-eyed dope".

I reiterate, in small doses Marijuana is beneficial just like alcohol, but prolonged use of large amounts of Marijuana is where the real harm starts.

 

[Lord Krunk]

Once someone gets hooked then all bets are off, but that's not what pot does to you unless some asshole puts something in there. and again if it were legal there would be no dealers. Besides, I had a drunken uncle who beat me, my aunt and my baby cousin when he drank. So I have no sympathy for you

I'm not talking about sympathy for myself, in fact the only thing that I had to do with it was that I was one of the witnesses.

I'm talking about what marijuana does to people, the menaces to society that are a result of this substance.

As for your Uncle, I'm sorry about that. But that should make you understand what drugs in general do to people.

 

[CosmicGrenade]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

Not as much as tobacco, but still addictive.

I don't think that pot should be legalised at all. It may have no short-term physical effects, but what it does do is turn perfectly normal people into black-eyed dopes. Really, we don't need any more of them than we already have.

Exactly what i was thinking...

It's true, I've worked at a prison over here in england and..... pot is damaging in the long term. I've seen the effects of what it turns people into, so it should not be legalised.
Just look at the adverts that have been on over ehre, choising a new brain because your is f*cked up (at a brain store) or meeting clones of yourself and seeing the effects of pot http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/video/2009/feb/13/advertising-drugsandalcohol

 

[Voicuboyy]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

not at all.. it's less dangerous than alcohol and tobacco, no one ever died because of marijuana

Not directly, but people have been turned into insane paranoid wrecks and committed suicide because of it. However, people only get addicted when your your dealer mixes it with tobacco, which is about 97% of the time.

wrong! i smoked a lot of fucking tobbaco and weed mixed last summer and i am not addicted since i didn't smoke any weed since november

 

[Panzer_God]

Once someone gets hooked then all bets are off, but that's not what pot does to you unless some asshole puts something in there. and again if it were legal there would be no dealers. Besides, I had a drunken uncle who beat me, my aunt and my baby cousin when he drank. So I have no sympathy for you

I'm not talking about sympathy for myself, in fact the only thing that I had to do with it was that I was one of the witnesses.

I'm talking about what marijuana does to people, the menaces to society that are a result of this substance.

As for your Uncle, I'm sorry about that. But that should make you understand what drugs in general do to people.

It does, I'm not dumb enough to say that drugs are good but they are better when they're legal so that there is quality control

 

[Panzer_God]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

Not as much as tobacco, but still addictive.

I don't think that pot should be legalised at all. It may have no short-term physical effects, but what it does do is turn perfectly normal people into black-eyed dopes. Really, we don't need any more of them than we already have.

Exactly what i was thinking...

It's true, I've worked at a prison over here in england and..... pot is damaging in the long term. I've seen the effects of what it turns people into, so it should not be legalised.
Just look at the adverts that have been on over ehre, choising a new brain because your is f*cked up (at a brain store) or meeting clones of yourself and seeing the effects of pot http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/video/2009/feb/13/advertising-drugsandalcohol

YOu guys just don't get it. Of course pot hurts you. Pot should all be gathered and burned if I had my way but I don't so it should be legal so there can be quality control and the government can trace more of the drugs

 

[Zykon TheLich]

Pot should all be gathered and burned if I had my way

I think that's pretty much what happens anyway...

 

[Panzer_God]

------Ok just to get my position out of the way first thing. I think that pot should be legalized with the same restrictions as either alcohol or cigarettes.
------Now for my reasoning. First off there is almost no health difference between pot and tobacco, a new british study puts pot as less dangerous than both tobacco and alcohol. This was based on a three-part criteria on how physically dangerous the drug is, how addictive it is and its impact on society.
------Secondly is the number of drug-related crimes, over fifty percent of federal inmates are in jail for a drug-related crime. almost 70% of those are in prison for marijuana. If pot were legalized then many of those people would no longer be in prison.
------Last there is the money, for every one of those people in prison for pot offenses we pay an average of $52 a day just to keep them there. Imagine how much money we would save if they were no longer in prison. Add that to the reduction in organized crime when drug smuggling is no longer as profitable and the tax money from legalized pot and it is a financially solid move.
Thanks SCAMola

Firstly, there is a huge difference between alcohol and pot. Alcohol can be beneficial (glass of wine a day) whereas pot can have physiological effects e.g. loss of memory, paranoia, and even schizophrenia. I had to live with a guy addicted to pot and he was exceptionally violent due to paranoia. Imagine a society where that was allowed.
Also pot is almost always smoked with tobacco. So then you can link weed to all the consequences of smoking e.g. cancer, second-hand smoke.
Secondly, the drug-related crimes will most likely be due to dealing in weed. If those scum bags are making cash from drugs & you legalise it, they'll just move on to dealing in harder drugs e.g. crack cocaine. Also I'd like to see where you got that figure from, seems a bit dubious to me.
Thirdly, it is not a solution to just release criminals! That's ignoring the problem. Most likely they will have committed other crimes other than pot smoking to be in prison, such as theft to pay for it etc. If you want to save money, start treating them like the scum they are and get a sweat-shop going.

If you really want to get rid of all drug-related crime, make all cash electronic. That way, you could keep tabs on whose buying what from where and as all drug dealings are in cash, pretty much overnight you would stop the drug trade.

DEAR GOD!!! READ WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN. I adressed everything you just said several times already

 

[Panzer_God]

Pot should all be gathered and burned if I had my way

I think that's pretty much what happens anyway...

True but I kinda meant without someone smoking it.

 

[Panzer_God]

my worry would be, could we trust the general populace to use Marijuana wisely. ?? [/quote]
Can we trust the populace to use cigs or booze correctly?

 

[bue519]

Is marijuana actually addictive anyway?

Not as much as tobacco, but still addictive.

I don't think that pot should be legalised at all. It may have no short-term physical effects, but what it does do is turn perfectly normal people into black-eyed dopes. Really, we don't need any more of them than we already have.

I love the amount of evidence you provide. Personally I'd rather have a bunch of "black-eyed dopes" (whatever those are) than a bunch of angry drunks.
EDIT:
Please don't call me a carpet bagger.

 

[MrBirdy]

Well, as being dutch(amsterdam anyone?).

It's legal to use marijuana if you are over 18.
Now im 16 and still use it sometimes(think about 1-3 times a month). And it gives me no problem, it's not hard to come buy so it won't empty your bank account. And it's really fun , last night the stars were moving and i played mariokart wii with a friend.... we played rainbow road, and we totally freaked out ^^. As for the bad consequences, i havn't noticed them yet, and i'm still young =). But it might ofcourse hit me in the face later!

That sounds like fun, have you ever watched children's tv shows while stoned?

Well no, but i did discover some new combinations of stars, one strangely being a football(soccer) player cheering xD. And once when i was doing a shisha and weed , i thought i was like a genie and a bottle i my chair was a flying carpet ^^. My point of view is however, you can use everything, as long as you do it in small amounts and not too frequently.