Poll: 4-Year Old is Cabable of Being Sued.

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mike1921

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Daystar Clarion said:
maddawg IAJI said:
The 4 Year old shouldn't be sued directly for it, but if the old lady was indeed injured, then the parents of the child should be open to a lawsuit. I mean, they should have kept in eye on the kid.
Or, you know, shit happens. I have no idea why America has this whole lawsuit culture, it's really petty.
Suing over injury is petty? What exactly do you sue for in other countries?
 

Lullabye

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Are you fucking serious?
".....noting that she was three months shy of turning 5 when Ms. Menagh was struck, and thus old enough to be sued."
So let me get this straight.
21 to drink
16 to drive
14 to learn to drive
13 to work
4 1/2 to get sued
 

mike1921

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Lullabye said:
Are you fucking serious?
".....noting that she was three months shy of turning 5 when Ms. Menagh was struck, and thus old enough to be sued."
So let me get this straight.
21 to drink
16 to drive
14 to learn to drive
13 to work
4 1/2 to get sued
The driving and working ones are state dependant
 

Lullabye

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mike1921 said:
Lullabye said:
Are you fucking serious?
".....noting that she was three months shy of turning 5 when Ms. Menagh was struck, and thus old enough to be sued."
So let me get this straight.
21 to drink
16 to drive
14 to learn to drive
13 to work
4 1/2 to get sued
The driving and working ones are state dependant
Unless any of them are at the age of 4, my point is still made.
 
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mike1921 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
maddawg IAJI said:
The 4 Year old shouldn't be sued directly for it, but if the old lady was indeed injured, then the parents of the child should be open to a lawsuit. I mean, they should have kept in eye on the kid.
Or, you know, shit happens. I have no idea why America has this whole lawsuit culture, it's really petty.
Suing over injury is petty? What exactly do you sue for in other countries?
If a child runs into me, that's called an accident. Only the US seems to have this obsession with making as much money out of everyone as possible.
 

mike1921

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Daystar Clarion said:
mike1921 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
maddawg IAJI said:
The 4 Year old shouldn't be sued directly for it, but if the old lady was indeed injured, then the parents of the child should be open to a lawsuit. I mean, they should have kept in eye on the kid.
Or, you know, shit happens. I have no idea why America has this whole lawsuit culture, it's really petty.
Suing over injury is petty? What exactly do you sue for in other countries?
If a child runs into me, that's called an accident. Only the US seems to have this obsession with making as much money out of everyone as possible.
If a child injures you, there are medical bills that need to be paid. I don't see why you should be the one liable for this if a child does it, but not if an adult runs you over.
Also, if an adult runs into you the odds are that was an accident too. It being an accident is irrelevant unless you are telling me I can "accidentally" drive through a preschool and not have to go to jail/pay any money

I hate when people compare stories where actual damage that will cost money to be fixed, where the victim is not at fault for this are compared to stories where a robber sues you for tripping on their way out your house.
 
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mike1921 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
mike1921 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
maddawg IAJI said:
The 4 Year old shouldn't be sued directly for it, but if the old lady was indeed injured, then the parents of the child should be open to a lawsuit. I mean, they should have kept in eye on the kid.
Or, you know, shit happens. I have no idea why America has this whole lawsuit culture, it's really petty.
Suing over injury is petty? What exactly do you sue for in other countries?
If a child runs into me, that's called an accident. Only the US seems to have this obsession with making as much money out of everyone as possible.
If a child injures you, there are medical bills that need to be paid. I don't see why you should be the one liable for this if a child does it, but not if an adult runs you over.
Also, if an adult runs into you the odds are that was an accident too. It being an accident is irrelevant unless you are telling me I can "accidentally" drive through a preschool and not have to go to jail/pay any money

I hate when people compare stories where actual damage that will cost money to be fixed, where the victim is not at fault for this are compared to stories where a robber sues you for tripping on their way out your house.
And therin lies the problem. If the US had a universial healthcare system, this wouldn't be an issue, but because americans have to pay for their healthcare, it makes injuring someone, even accidently, a ridiculous liability.
 

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People need to accept that shit happens and always will. Sueing doesnt solve anything it just allows someone to feed their greed a little.
 

mike1921

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Daystar Clarion said:
mike1921 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
mike1921 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
maddawg IAJI said:
The 4 Year old shouldn't be sued directly for it, but if the old lady was indeed injured, then the parents of the child should be open to a lawsuit. I mean, they should have kept in eye on the kid.
Or, you know, shit happens. I have no idea why America has this whole lawsuit culture, it's really petty.
Suing over injury is petty? What exactly do you sue for in other countries?
If a child runs into me, that's called an accident. Only the US seems to have this obsession with making as much money out of everyone as possible.
If a child injures you, there are medical bills that need to be paid. I don't see why you should be the one liable for this if a child does it, but not if an adult runs you over.
Also, if an adult runs into you the odds are that was an accident too. It being an accident is irrelevant unless you are telling me I can "accidentally" drive through a preschool and not have to go to jail/pay any money

I hate when people compare stories where actual damage that will cost money to be fixed, where the victim is not at fault for this are compared to stories where a robber sues you for tripping on their way out your house.
And therin lies the problem. If the US had a universial healthcare system, this wouldn't be an issue, but because americans have to pay for their healthcare, it makes injuring someone, even accidently, a ridiculous liability.
Yes, the problem could be fixed with universal healthcare and that would be great. But right now we don't, the only options are making the old lady pay or making the kid's family pay.

Sadly we can't even get healthcare reform that is somewhere between the current system and universal healthcare
 

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I hate my own country... I love the explanation though. "Well she was four and a half, so it doesn't count the same... and I think if I were a reasonable four year old (FOUR YEAR OLD!!!!!) that I wouldve not hit that old woman by accident"
 

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mike1921 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
mike1921 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
maddawg IAJI said:
The 4 Year old shouldn't be sued directly for it, but if the old lady was indeed injured, then the parents of the child should be open to a lawsuit. I mean, they should have kept in eye on the kid.
Or, you know, shit happens. I have no idea why America has this whole lawsuit culture, it's really petty.
Suing over injury is petty? What exactly do you sue for in other countries?
If a child runs into me, that's called an accident. Only the US seems to have this obsession with making as much money out of everyone as possible.
If a child injures you, there are medical bills that need to be paid. I don't see why you should be the one liable for this if a child does it, but not if an adult runs you over.
Also, if an adult runs into you the odds are that was an accident too. It being an accident is irrelevant unless you are telling me I can "accidentally" drive through a preschool and not have to go to jail/pay any money

I hate when people compare stories where actual damage that will cost money to be fixed, where the victim is not at fault for this are compared to stories where a robber sues you for tripping on their way out your house.
Somebody (adult or child) should only be liable to pay damages if it was down to their neligience that the injury was caused. A four year old is not old enough to have that sort of responsibility, that's down to the parent.
 

zombays

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Lolwut? How do you run over someone on a tricycle? I could see like a broken leg or something of the lower body region was torn. But a hip? My fake and gay senses are tingling.....
 

mr_rubino

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It's almost as if someone died and nobody here knows the difference between civil and criminal law or something...
EDIT: And nobody read the article, just going off like inter-netters always do when the word "lawsuit" comes up in any context.

JoJoDeathunter said:
mike1921 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
mike1921 said:
Daystar Clarion said:
maddawg IAJI said:
The 4 Year old shouldn't be sued directly for it, but if the old lady was indeed injured, then the parents of the child should be open to a lawsuit. I mean, they should have kept in eye on the kid.
Or, you know, shit happens. I have no idea why America has this whole lawsuit culture, it's really petty.
Suing over injury is petty? What exactly do you sue for in other countries?
If a child runs into me, that's called an accident. Only the US seems to have this obsession with making as much money out of everyone as possible.
If a child injures you, there are medical bills that need to be paid. I don't see why you should be the one liable for this if a child does it, but not if an adult runs you over.
Also, if an adult runs into you the odds are that was an accident too. It being an accident is irrelevant unless you are telling me I can "accidentally" drive through a preschool and not have to go to jail/pay any money

I hate when people compare stories where actual damage that will cost money to be fixed, where the victim is not at fault for this are compared to stories where a robber sues you for tripping on their way out your house.
Somebody (adult or child) should only be liable to pay damages if it was down to their neligience that the injury was caused. A four year old is not old enough to have that sort of responsibility, that's down to the parent.
That's the thing. Sometimes things happen and nobody was negligent or at fault, and yet someone is injured/dies because of it. Believe it or not, sometimes people are held liable for actions they didn't mean to cause. (I believe it's called strict liability)
Your belief sets a scary precedent. "Sorry Mrs. Johnson. He was sleepwalking. He didn't mean it. He thought you were a burglar. Now here's your bill." (Or are you the type who believes the government should pay for these things? "Freak accident" is a red herring; this stuff happens constantly.)
 

KatieKyosuke

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... What the hell?
This only just caught my eye as I was looking through the forums, but SERIOUSLY.
Suing a child for something like that? Anyone could have done it. It was nothing more than an accident.

Sure, the woman was hurt badly but that doesn't make it the children's fault. It isn't like it's the kids' fault she died.

This is stupid. REALLY stupid.
 

Tirin

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In Canada, four-year-olds aren't held legally responsible for prettymuch anything they do. If anyone was to be sued, it would be the parent or legal guardian, not the child themselves.
 

Jamash

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Isn't it technically illegal to ride your bike on a pavement?

If 4 year old children are legally culpable for doing this, then they may have to start riding on the roads with the cars, despite that fact they'll be all but invisible to the traffic.

Also, if 4 year old children can be sued for the adult crimes they commit, then what about the little children at the beach who run around naked? Can they be sued for indecent exposure?

I hope the four year old gets to be tried by a jury of it's peers in court, that would be adorable.