Poll: 5 Year Ban on Zombie/Vampire related media, who's with me?

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FalloutJack

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Infernai said:
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FalloutJack said:
And as a fan of Hellsing, Legacy of Kain, and ABRAHAM LINCOLN...we shall not do away with the vampires unjustly.
Yeah, I'm in agreement. Considering we are FINALLY getting some form of new Legacy of Kain media (even if it is a fucking reboot...) would make this a REAL dick move on anyone's part. Plus banning Vampires while Alucard exists is a TERRIBLE idea. Trust me, you don't wanna know what he did to the last guy who tried that...

...Reboot?

I understand that there's good reason for why they'd want to do that, but it's hardly what I expected. (They would only need one more game to wrap the story up all nice and neat in a bow.) Explain this reboot thingy.
Not many details are known yet but....well, i'll let this article explain it: http://www.vg247.com/2012/03/20/rumour-crystal-dynamics-working-on-soul-reaver-reboot/

It's still more or less in the rumor phase but, I'm seriously holding out some slimmer of hope for it...but i swear if Michael Bell and Simon Templeman aren't called back to do Raziel and Kain respectively, I'm not even gonna give the damned thing a chance (No! Bell and templeman effectively MADE those characters and as long as they're still around i see no reason to let them reprise the roles. As far as I'm concerned, anyone else they chose to voice Kain and Raziel would be a downgrade)
That's what I mean. Those actors made their roles, and they're not getting any younger. We've already lost Tony Jay... It would be better to finish this long and winding timey-wimey road than to start from the beginning.
 

Syphous

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No need to ban them. Just because you're sick of something doesn't mean everyone is. How about YOU just don't watch any zombie/vampire movies or games for a while?
 

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Are you saying I should give up Dawnguard? My armoured troll would like to have a word with you.
 

EHKOS

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Yeah, I'm getting really sick of Zombies as enemies in games. Vamps are cool though.
 

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I just realized that this would mean no Castlevania as it contains high amounts of Zombies and Vampires, so you sir are a monster, taking Castlevania away from us is a terrible crime, besides I have yet to play a Castlevania game that doesn't have a stellar soundtrack that I have to get, you would be denying us great music!
 

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neither.

Vampires are overdone and yes they have been shoved into a very narrow corner. So that opens the potential for a wounded animal to come out thrashing like mad and turn into something quite good. However thats going to take a lot to undo the setbacks with the likes of Anne Rice and Stephanie Meyers forcing the trope to prominence.

Zombies are much in the same boat, however when you have things like The Walking Dead, producing some of the most compelling television on TV, there is nothing wrong with letting it ride its wave out. Yes its getting over done as well, Just lagging behind vampires on the same path.

However banning it is not only unenforcable, trying to would just be silly. Again, you do not know that the next big thing using one of those tropes might be genre redefining.
 

Kpt._Rob

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In a hypothetical story, a friend of mine once stood in front of an oncoming train. It was quickly baring down upon him, and he turned to look at me and said "... you know my friend, I really do think there should be a rule that says that you can't stand in front of oncoming trains, as I have the sneaking suspicion that this is going to hurt just a little bit."

Even forgetting that he was probably wrong, as no doubt someone did at some point in time feel that it was necessary to make such a rule for anyone stupid enough to stand in front of an oncoming train, the fact of the matter is that for most of us such a law would be completely unnecessary. Had I had the time to point out the simple solution to my friend perhaps he might've lived another day... until he tried the same thing with a truck or my patience.

Regardless. If something is coming your way, and you suspect that you will find it unpleasant, there is actually a pretty simple solution. Now I know we all love our democratic system, and would rather waste time letting an ineffectual congress vote on whether or not we can stand in front of trains or watch zombie movies, but wouldn't it be simpler to just avoid such things of one's own accord?

Food for thought.
 

joshuaayt

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People like zombies and vampires- just like people seem to like war-torn countryside and buff soldiermen.
 

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MammothBlade said:
I'm ok with banning zombies, but not vampires. Still holding out for a worthy successor to Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines.
Came by to say exactly that ^

Dunno where OP gets the impression vampires are overdone (twilights vampires put aside...) cos when it comes to actually good vampire games (dunno about films) there realy isn't that many.

Zombie related material is much more in abundance though, but got no comment on that as I don't seem as much into zombies as the rest of ya.
 

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You're crazy. [sub][sub]I can't bring myself to vote that one. Your crazy what? Sister? Haircut?[/sub][/sub]

World of Darkness vamps and Romero zombies are fine by me. Both concepts have just been hit hard in popular media by Sturgeon's Law lately.
 

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lacktheknack said:
Oh, for Pete's sake.

STOP WATCHING WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE.

That is all.
◔_◔ Did you read my OP? Be honest now. Did you? I said I do like zombies, and vampires. I just think film/gaming in general would be better with more originality. New blood, so to speak. And if developers constantly turn to these same tropes every time they need an enemy to fight we'll get less of that.
Besides, it's painful to see something you like get so watered down and deluded with all the crap that's out there.
 

lacktheknack

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OlasDAlmighty said:
lacktheknack said:
Oh, for Pete's sake.

STOP WATCHING WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE.

That is all.
Did you read my OP? Be honest now. Did you? I said I do like zombies, and vampires. I just think film/gaming in general would be better with more originality. New blood, so to speak. And if developers constantly turn to these same tropes every time they need an enemy to fight we'll get less of that.
Besides, it's painful to see something you like get so watered down and deluded with all the crap that's out there.
Yes, I did.

You said you don't like the oversaturation and constant use. Thus, I can only conclude that if "Zombies vs. Vampires" was released tomorrow, you would not like it.

And you think that it should be all banned for five years instead of simply NOT WATCHING THE BLOODY THINGS. I don't like vampire movies AT ALL, and guess how much the "oversaturation" has affected me. Answer: Not in the slightest, because I don't watch movies with vampires in them. Simple enough.

If people simply stopped consuming things they claim to not want to consume, then these trends would burn out naturally.

EDIT: Also, now that I think of it, I have no idea how you think a five-year hiatus would change the industry's approach to zombies/vampires. If anything, we'd be MORE limited at the end of it, because we haven't been trying new things.
 

FalloutJack

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OlasDAlmighty said:
lacktheknack said:
Oh, for Pete's sake.

STOP WATCHING WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE.

That is all.
◔_◔ Did you read my OP? Be honest now. Did you? I said I do like zombies, and vampires. I just think film/gaming in general would be better with more originality. New blood, so to speak. And if developers constantly turn to these same tropes every time they need an enemy to fight we'll get less of that.
Besides, it's painful to see something you like get so watered down and deluded with all the crap that's out there.
Acceptable targets, dude. The undead, terminally evil, and thoroughly insane are a bottomless pit to dip into and call forth the badness from.


Need I go on?
 

Thaluikhain

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OlasDAlmighty said:
When the zombie craze first started several years back I was all over that shit,
Your profile says you were born in 1992, several decades after teh first craze.

But, yeah, no pun intended but they ahve been done to death.

What particularly annoys me is that so many people doing them have to do them exactly the same. People got pissed off at sparkly Twilight vampires not because the idea was stupid, but because the idea was new. "Raping the vampire mythos" was how one ratehr uninformed person put it. FFS, vampires have only burned in sunlight since Nosferatu in 1929, have only had fangs since Varney the Vampire.
 

Olas

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loc978 said:
You're crazy. [sub][sub]I can't bring myself to vote that one. Your crazy what? Sister? Haircut?[/sub][/sub]
My crazy haircut of course. What can I say? Marge is my idol.
Actually you can't put apostrophes in pole answers or else it cuts out the apostrophe and everything that follows it.

"No, you're crazy" would come out as "No, you" and lackthenack's post would be "Oh, for Pete".
 

M0rp43vs

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At first I was up for banning zombies(K, barring twilight, what other media has done vampires shittily?) until I read unsilenced's post.
I realized that zombies are pretty much just the Nazis, Terrorists and Russians of today. Just humanoid targets to exercise power fantasies on.
Then I thought about it more and realized, I don't hate zombies for their media. I hate them for their fans.
I mean, I know lots of people BANKING on and WISHING for a zombie apocalypse because they have more plans for when a zombie apocalypse strikes than any real plans for the future. God knows what would happen if the world ends via giant tsunami, volcano erupting or ragnarok.
And a lot of these plans are doomed to failure if you think about these for more than a few seconds and remove the media from it, but point it out to them? Oh no. They' ll talk your ear off with non-too-kind words about it.

So to sum up my rant, I say, give the zombie survival genre a chance to actually flesh out the Survival part of the equations. I have nothing against zombies in general, Even their fans, but I will still phase out like it's a University lecture when you regale me your improbable plans to survive a zombie outbreak