Poll: 8 year old Botox girl taken into care

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Azaraxzealot

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AndyFromMonday said:
I'm a bit torn on the issue myself. On one hand the mother did abuse the child in every sense of the way but on the other hand separating a child from its parents is always traumatizing for the child and foster homes aren't always a good thing for the child since adoption rates aren't that high. There's also bullying and acceptance to consider when you throw a child into an already established community.
my fiance went through foster care, it was the worst experience of her life because her foster parents tried to force her to be a girly girl and locked her up in her room if she did anything wrong (which, since they were puritanical christians, EVERYTHING was wrong). She still cries about it to this day.

but still, that can't be worse than your own mother thinking you're ugly so she injects a deadly toxin into your face
 

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RAKtheUndead said:
She injected a neurotoxin into her daughter's face.

What about that isn't an appalling act of sheer idiocy?
I already answered this question in my original post. Re-read it please.
 

LostTimeLady

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I'm unsure about the out come of this situation. Ok, so the mother should not have been injecting basically poison into the face of her child to make her look a little bit better (seriously, that kid probably looks picture-perfect without the damn stuff being injected, one tiny wrinkle? They're called how your face works!) but on the other hand what good does it really do separating the child from her mother? The whole point of that sort of action is to reduce suffering to the child and phycological problems accosiated with separation definately don't improve things.
Surely there would be some way of stopping the mother doing this to her daughter without separating them... Councelling for both of them perhaps. The mother to teach her to see her daughter as beautiful as she is and the girl for her to know that she's beautiful how she is. Maybe?
 

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lobster1077 said:
Think about it rationally for a moment, botox is a potent neurotoxin, the mother effectively risked her daughter's life to improve the girl's chances of winning a pageant. Perhaps she perceived the injections to be beneficial to her daughter, but that's flimsy justification if you consider the risks.
She did what she thought was best for her daugher. She was worried that her daughter might end up like her. She cares deeply for the child and tried to do anything in her mind to help her not end up in a deadbeat job like herself. What she did to the child was wrong but separating the child from the parents should be a last resort.
 

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Children's beauty pageants should be illegal. Seriously. Teaching young children that unless they happen to look picture-perfect, they're not worth a damn thing. How can anyone fail to see the harm in that?
I fail to see how beauty pageants reinforce that.

Don't get me wrong they're incredibly disturbing but I don't see anything morally wrong with them.
Because the contest is all about looks over anything else, which isn't a good lesson for a child, and tries to change them into mini-adults, which they aren't. It also tends to breed pushy parents like this mother who project their own insecurities onto their child and place pressure of them to achieve so they can live through them.

Children should be allowed to just be children, if they really want to dress up and look pretty they can do that with their friends at home, they'll have time enough when they are older to take part in contests.
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
lobster1077 said:
Think about it rationally for a moment, botox is a potent neurotoxin, the mother effectively risked her daughter's life to improve the girl's chances of winning a pageant. Perhaps she perceived the injections to be beneficial to her daughter, but that's flimsy justification if you consider the risks.
She did what she thought was best for her daugher. She was worried that her daughter might end up like her. She cares deeply for the child and tried to do anything in her mind to help her not end up in a deadbeat job like herself. What she did to the child was wrong but separating the child from the parents should be a last resort.
Maybe if she hadn't been an idiot she could have kept her kid.

Child care is sometimes crap but it's better than ending up unable to smile
 

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Child endangerment - nanograms of Botulinum toxin can kill you (the LD50 is 40ng), and so if it's injected improperly you'll be dead pretty quickly.

Seems like a pretty simple case.
 

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it's about time she was. if she's THAT irresponsible when she's 8, what the hell else will she do in years to come? it's not just the botox but the the entire story, what else she'd done and the fact she thought it would mean she would become famous. stupid woman
 

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RAKtheUndead said:
OK, here's a quick question: Do any of these people realise what botox treatments consist of? Here's a clue, people: It's an extremely deadly neurotoxin that comes from a bacillus bacterium called Clostridium botulinum. Its LD[sub]50[/sub] value is 1ng per kilogram of body mass. That is what she had injected into her daughter.

Moron.
She got as far as "Magic Wrinkle Cure" in the spam e-mail from the mexican pharmaceuticals supplier...

What fucking 8 year old has wrinkles anyway? Although with a mother so clearly psychotic I wouldn't doubt premature aging. Botox doesn't even remove wrinkles it just causes them to migrate.
 

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It was definitely the best decision to take her away from her mother. Botox for an 8 year old is ridiculous.