Poll: 8 year old Botox girl taken into care

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Caliostro

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MaxPowers666 said:
Sure its idiocy but as stated its not like the actually did anything illegal. Im surprised that the girl was actually taken away from her and I wont be surprised if in a couple weeks he gets get daughter back.
Er... Yes she has... This is child abuse. I feel the need to reiterate what Rak said for emphasis: She injected her 8 year old daughter with a deadly neurotoxin through a painful and ridiculously unnecessary procedure in order to vicariously experience some sense of worth and achievement at the cost of her daughter's physical and mental health.

Hell, the entire "children beauty pageant" is an atrocity.

It makes regular beatings sound almost pleasurable in comparison.
 

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RAKtheUndead said:
OK, here's a quick question: Do any of these people realise what botox treatments consist of? Here's a clue, people: It's an extremely deadly neurotoxin that comes from a bacillus bacterium called Clostridium botulinum. Its LD[sub]50[/sub] value is 1ng per kilogram of body mass. That is what she had injected into her daughter.

Moron.
The LD50 is actually more accurately around 0,05 micrograms per kilogram of body mass, and that only says something on very short term. Furthermore, the LD50 could have been derived from any of many uses, maybe it was injection into blood stream, ingestion or injection to the brains. The use of this neurotoxin in cosmetology (is that a word? :p) is to temporarily numb facial muscles to make wrinkles disappear, I highly doubt you need a lethal dose to numb a muscle..
 

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Yes, I completely agree, the only downside is that child services didn't take the battering ram to this lady's front door as soon as the story got out.
It's just wrong injecting botox into a little girl.
 

funguy2121

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First of all, what wrinkles? She's 8. Are there supposed to be no wrinkles when she smiles?

Also, pageant moms are as bad as pimps in a lot of ways. Now that the child has been taken away from her mother, she may actually have a shot at becoming a decent adult.
 

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For the most part, contest and stage moms sicken me. The idea of children's beauty contests is just on the border of depravity and I'm glad to see one of the bigger psychos have their child-privileges taken away. Hopefully the child isn't too badly damaged mentally. Also, has the doctor who went through with the procedure been charged with anything? I feel like the doctor(s) involved should also be fined or something for following through with this idiocy.
 

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jakko12345 said:
I actually thought nothing would happen, being America and all (no offense American escapists). And yeah i'm glad it's been resolved.
No offense taken, the lady was form Britain originally anyways where she slipped through the cracks. Looks like our social services stepped it up though and did the right thing, cause thats just how we here in America. We don't stand for those Vain British mothers who inject their kids with botox.

OT: Anyways(Was just kidding about all that btw) good for everyone I suppose. Things like this usually work out. I don't know why people are shocked it didn't.
 

Zhadramekel

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It might not seem like it but I think it was the right thing. If her mum was giving her botox at 8 it probably would have been plastic surgery or breast implants by the time she was 10.
 

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LostTimeLady said:
I'm unsure about the out come of this situation. Ok, so the mother should not have been injecting basically poison into the face of her child to make her look a little bit better (seriously, that kid probably looks picture-perfect without the damn stuff being injected, one tiny wrinkle? They're called how your face works!) but on the other hand what good does it really do separating the child from her mother? The whole point of that sort of action is to reduce suffering to the child and phycological problems accosiated with separation definately don't improve things.
Surely there would be some way of stopping the mother doing this to her daughter without separating them... Councelling for both of them perhaps. The mother to teach her to see her daughter as beautiful as she is and the girl for her to know that she's beautiful how she is. Maybe?
You have to stop dousing gasoline on the fire before you can put it out. And if there's a batshit pageant mom dumping gas and ammonium nitrate on the fire, you have to take her away first.
 

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busterkeatonrules said:
Children's beauty pageants should be illegal. Seriously. Teaching young children that unless they happen to look picture-perfect, they're not worth a damn thing. How can anyone fail to see the harm in that?
I fail to see how beauty pageants reinforce that.

Don't get me wrong they're incredibly disturbing but I don't see anything morally wrong with them.
They are creepy as shit, but you don't see how these things could seriously damage a child's psyche? You don't think these parents push unrealistic measures of beauty onto their children only to be disappointed in them (possibly even ashamed, some of these people are insane remember) when they lose?
 

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under the justification of "just to remove a few wrinkles" skin the kid

and that stupid psychotic reasoning is exactly why she (and i for that matter) shouldn't be allowed to have kids

the same thing goes for all parents who force or allow their children to join child beauty pageants (outside of school at least)
 

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busterkeatonrules said:
Children's beauty pageants should be illegal. Seriously. Teaching young children that unless they happen to look picture-perfect, they're not worth a damn thing. How can anyone fail to see the harm in that?
Word. It's exploitative and manipulative of the children, at best. Frankly, though, I think pageants in general need to be done away with, but at the very least, yeah, no more kiddie pageants.
 

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DatedSandwich said:
Yes, I do. Injecting a child with botox is not exactly good parenting.
She's entering her in child beauty pageants. Ever seen one? Creepiest thing I've ever seen; the parents basically make their girls into flesh-robot barbie dolls. They're almost not human anymore.
 

SonofaJohannes

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SHE. WAS. EIGHT.

How the hell do you get wrinkles when you're eight?! That's an old people thing!
I don't like that mother.
 

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busterkeatonrules said:
Children's beauty pageants should be illegal. Seriously. Teaching young children that unless they happen to look picture-perfect, they're not worth a damn thing. How can anyone fail to see the harm in that?
The same reason pet people are all over everybodies ass for anything related to aniaml testing or beauty products but killing bulls in Spain for entertainment is just peaches.

Seriously those bulls get absolutely abused before death, You know how a cat has whiskers to judge distance and stuff? A bull uses it's horns for that, they get ground down to fuck with it, they torment it by moving out the way and poke sticks/javlines in it, exhaust it and when it doesn't even have the energy to stand, they stab it through the heart.

Thats ok but bear baiting is wrong? say whaaaaaaa!

On topic. I agree with this person, these pagents make me sick! Dressing there kids up to look like porcelain dolls, working them very hard to perfect routines, all with no consideration for what the kid wants?

There either going to end up on the pole or go on to the adult version "miss ...(universe/state/world/whatever)? Be an arrogant douche 'cos some people aren't porcelain dolls? Have no self worth beyond "I'm pretty"?

Also 8 year old with wrinkles? How does that even happen?
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
lobster1077 said:
Think about it rationally for a moment, botox is a potent neurotoxin, the mother effectively risked her daughter's life to improve the girl's chances of winning a pageant. Perhaps she perceived the injections to be beneficial to her daughter, but that's flimsy justification if you consider the risks.
She did what she thought was best for her daugher. She was worried that her daughter might end up like her. She cares deeply for the child and tried to do anything in her mind to help her not end up in a deadbeat job like herself. What she did to the child was wrong but separating the child from the parents should be a last resort.
To reiterate. If someone injects poison into the face of their child, no matter what their justification they shouldn't have custody of said child.
 

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Unless the kid has some sort of facial deformity that botox could've helped with, which obviously she didn't if she was in pageants...
Well, mommy needs a therapist or to get a fricken grip.