Poll: Adamantium vs Lightsaber

[Lonan]

I read that the only thing a lightsabre cannot cut through is another lightsabre.

 

[kaveradeo]

Not everything melts. Now everything is destructible tho

Pretty sure having four states of being is a property of matter. The transition from solid to liquid being melting.

You're missing something.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublimation_(phase_transition)

no I am not. He said "not everything melts" which is false. Since we are talking about a lightsaber and adamantine we are clearly not talking about "circumstances found on Earth".

NOT everything melts. SOME stuff SUBLIMATES.

 

[UnmotivatedSlacker]

This has been done before but to the answer to your question, I voted Adamanitum. I read that in one of the comic Thor Hammer can only dent Captain Shield (which is made of Adamantium) at best. So what chance does the Lightsaber got if the Hammer created by Odin (great big God) couldn't break it? I think the Lightsaber at best can only make a burn mark on it but not break it.

In order to make that sheild, adimantium had to be shaped, and mined, etc. Adimantium can be broken by enough heat. Lightsaber wins.

You can't mine adamantium, it's an alloy and once it solidifies it can't be melted again. Also Cap's shield is made of vibranium and some experimental alloy, not adamantium. Adamantium is a byproduct of trying to recreate that.

 

[Alade]

I actually heard somewhere that a lightsaber wouldn't actually cauterize you. I'm not sure why though.

In the movies it cauterizes, but I remember reading somewhere that in theory the heat needed to cauterize while slicing would be so hot that the person wielding the weapon would have his/her hand cooked just by holding the darn thing.

I always kind of assumed that the side-effects of using such a powerful tool are controlled by the force-user, i.e. the jedi/sith uses the force to protect his hands and maybe controls the light in the saber a bit, this is purely a non-educated guess tho, I'm guessing no non-jedi/sith is seen wielding a saber.

 

[crudus]

no I am not. He said "not everything melts" which is false. Since we are talking about a lightsaber and adamantine we are clearly not talking about "circumstances found on Earth".

NOT everything melts. SOME stuff SUBLIMATES.[/quote]

Spoiler: All matter in the universe has this type of diagram. They are called phase diagrams.

The first one is for CO2

This one is for H2O

Perhaps but adamantium is slightly different than most metals it has a melting point higher than plasma(it was liquefied through a multi layered process and grafted on wolverines bones), it also has some energy altering properties tho they are not well documented.

Adamantium is still made of atoms. Put anything under enough pressure or heat and you will turn it into a gas. You may have to throw adamantuim into the center of a star that is 100 or so times the mass of the sun or a black hole but it will get it done.

 

[TOTL_UNIALAYSHUN]

Duuuuuuuuuuude, congrats on creating this beautiful thread... Incredible debate! Your friends all deserve a handshake.

I believe a Lightsaber would win, because even if Admantium can cut through a Lightsaber it's not like the Lightsaber will break into two pieces, it's a laser. The Admantium would get heated up and melt.

Then Qui-Gon Jinn cuts your face off!

 

[GrimHeaper]

Adamantium wins this with relative ease.
The lightsaber would run out of power far before it started doing any damage to it.
Assuming it's wolverines 616 adamantuim that take the power of 10,000 suns to even begin to melt.
There are other universes of adamantuim WH40K is an example strong, but not unbreakable.

 

[Weaver]

Someone made this near exact thread like 8 months ago, I wonder if it's still around.
There were some great discussions in it.

 

[Rayne870]

Adamantium gets the win due to unfair lore advantage.

 

[Eldarion]

I actually heard somewhere that a lightsaber wouldn't actually cauterize you. I'm not sure why though.

According to some of the Star Wars novels on the creation of a lightsaber, although the blade is initially created using extreme heat, the saber itself does not generate any heat of its own. That's why I cringe every time I see Qui-Gon cut through that door in episode one. Friction alone can't generate THAT much heat.

Are we discussing science in a series that has magic force powers?

 

[LogicNProportion]

Lightsaber can't phase multiple materials, you lesser-nerd-bastards! >D

For example: Mandalorian Iron, Cortosis, Phract, and many others.

Just throwing this out there for people who believe lightsabers cut through anything.

Still, I love Op for discussing this.

 

[Chris646]

I'm gonna have to go with the lightsaber. Even if the beam of raw, destructive energy doesn't cut it, the handle that contains the beam could probably also be used in a way.

 

[Con Carne]

This has been done before but to the answer to your question, I voted Adamanitum. I read that in one of the comic Thor Hammer can only dent Captain Shield (which is made of Adamantium) at best. So what chance does the Lightsaber got if the Hammer created by Odin (great big God) couldn't break it? I think the Lightsaber at best can only make a burn mark on it but not break it.

I thought Caps shield was made of Vibranium, which is actually an alloy that is stronger than adamantium.

EDIT: My vote goes to adamantium.

 

[Something Amyss]

This has been done before but to the answer to your question, I voted Adamanitum.

Wrong.
Cap's shield is actually made from a very special kind of vibranium.

/nitpick

I thought it was an allow of the two.

This has been done before but to the answer to your question, I voted Adamanitum. I read that in one of the comic Thor Hammer can only dent Captain Shield (which is made of Adamantium) at best. So what chance does the Lightsaber got if the Hammer created by Odin (great big God) couldn't break it? I think the Lightsaber at best can only make a burn mark on it but not break it.

Of course, the power level of the Gods would be more meaningful in a world where the Gods were consistently the most powerful beings in the universe. Not the case with Marvel.

It would also be more meaningful if the power levels of characters, materials, and items didn't vary in magnitude from story to story. Not the case with either franchise.

 

[RevRaptor]

Just a thought but often the ultra light training swords I tried are actually harder to wield than the real thing, the weight makes a sword behave in a controllable and predictable way. I'm pretty sure using a light sabre that has no weight would be damn near impossible to use with out hurting yourself. One little mistake sneeze or twitch and you'll likely cut your own arm off. Not that is especially relevant, just thinking out loud here.

 

[SteveZim1017]

would a lightsaber create any other type of reaction besides extreme heat and physical pressure?

if it does not then adamantium would remain in tact. Adamantium has been shown to take physical blows stronger than any jedi could wield (thor and the hulk). it has also been shown to take extreme heats and it considered unmeltable by HEAT SOURCES (more on this next)

that being said it is not indestructable as many have claimed. It has been ripped from wolverines body (shown as shattered pieces). this shows that it is susceptible to strong magnetic fields. Adamantium has also been shown to react to the properties of Antarctic Vibranium (anti-metal) in that it can break down the molecular bonds and liquify the adamantium.