Poll: AIDS, it could be eradicated but human rights would need to be sacrificed.

[Insanum]

It is impossible.

To many lives would be lost and its not 100% fullproof. Plus. Monkeys can still spread it.

Whos shagging those goddam monkeys? Leave those monkeys alone! - Kudos too those who get the REFERENCE.

i think it would take a lot less effort too find a cure than there would to seal off a whole country...Although i nominate france if we do have too Quarantine people. Haha

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

When it comes to deporting War criminals, Hate preachers and Terrorists, I am more than happy to remove human rights. But the idea your proposing is far too big for it too work. There will undoubtedly be a few infect who do as much as they can to spread the disease when they hear of it, in fact its already been done.

What defines terrorists? treason? doing harm to the public? then kick out of of the US government.....

War criminals is a bit easier to do but Hate preachers are merely enacting their right to free speech, if hate speech(non specific violent type) is made illicit then any other kind of speech can be because government and the public have neither the heart nor the will to put up with it.

And therin lies the problem

Not really humanity is still relatively immature I mean we still whine about sexuality of adults and label people poorly over religion and other hobbies and lifestyles, we have a long long long long way to go yet, no need of a 6 year old getting a job and no need for a immature and compulsive race(humanity) to try and act more mature than they are.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

It is impossible.

To many lives would be lost and its not 100% fullproof. Plus. Monkeys can still spread it.

Whos shagging those goddam monkeys? Leave those monkeys alone!

i think it would take a lot less effort too find a cure than there would to seal off a whole country...Although i nominate france if we do have too Quarantine people. Haha

Its fire for the belly not food for the loin............

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

It is impossible.

To many lives would be lost and its not 100% fullproof. Plus. Monkeys can still spread it.

Whos shagging those goddam monkeys? Leave those monkeys alone!

i think it would take a lot less effort too find a cure than there would to seal off a whole country...Although i nominate france if we do have too Quarantine people. Haha

What about the possibility that somebody was cutting an infect rhesus monkey meat and they cut their finger?

 

[Mother Yeti]

Most people who have it brought it on themselves, they spread it around, and they still have the gall to act like the victims? The end justifies the means.

Please, elucidate upon your views. I'm fascinated.

It's very simple. The initial spread of AIDS, to my knowledge, was via the consumption of infected monkey brains blah blah blah

Actually, I was being sarcastic. I get your worldview perfectly well. Bigots in the '80s espoused it all the time, claiming that gay men deserved to die from AIDS as punishment for being homosexual, waving all sorts of specious "facts" (like your little claim about people who spread the disease willfully) in your face to justify their cruelty.

People like you are the ones that ought to be quarantined.

 

[Ham Blitz]

I always thought about that being a solution. It's kind of funny for me that someone else thought that, though I think there are too many things that people would protest about it to work. You would have to stop people from eating monkies so that the monkey version of HIV (which I think is called something like AIV, though, I am not 100 percent sure) would not spread to people, which would also take tons of work. If there was a situation where everyone would coperate to stop it though, I think it actually work

 

[Ignignoct]

Personally, this thread is just making sheep look sexier, the longer it goes on.

 

[Kajt]

Solution to AIDS: Cloning.

 

[Baneat]

Current day democracy - Yes
Liberalism - No
Communism - if the ends justify (for the greater good)

 

[duckfi8]

sounds like the making of a good zombie movie

 

[JojjeE]

I don't think it's justified. I see it as population control. I know it sounds bad, but there's way too many of us.

Especially if you look at Africa, there's so many of them that there is not enough water or food. And even then, they still keep populating.

 

[MadeinHell]

Its a really bad idea. And we, as a whole of totally unimportant peoples must do everything to protect our laws. Sorry but if we allowed world governments to disobey our rights (which US gov is doing in a huuuuge scale right now) so openly, it would pretty much be end of free man. Ok so what happens if every infected (even though its simply not possible to capture end hold hostage each every one) dissapear. HIV virus is gone and there are no risk of ppl having aids. (yeah right)

But there are lots of others dangerous/deadly/easly spreaded sicknesses, that are just not as "popular" as aids which is IMO a little bit too over exaggerated by the mass media. They kill millions of people every year. Some even every few months. Sepsis, Influenza and many many others. They kill more than aids and are way easier to catch (for example with Sepsis you just have to drink from the same glass as the infected person). What do you do then? The world is connected after getting rid of Aids, now time for other sicknesses, like those I mentioned.

No. This idea is just bad, and there is no possibility of such exit from the aids situation. someone someday is going to find a cure. (probably the guys that created it... oh don't tell me you think aids isn't artificial ;/) And then its going to be expensive as hell. I'm afraid we are never going to get absolutely rid of it. Unless our immune system develops it's own natural way.

 

[martin's a madman]

AIDS is one of the worst diseases to affect humans and currently incurable. What if we did not need to cure it, but simply let it go away on its own? The only way to contract HIV which leads to aids is contact with people who do have it. A simple answer could be, let the people who have HIV/AIDS die.

I am speaking about a mass campaign of testing, quarantine and letting the people who have it finish off their lives without spreading the disease to the uninfected. This could potentially rid human beings of the virus. But, it obviously would involve a lapse in human rights to solve our problems. This idea is pretty unlikely because it involves co-operation of any nation that has anyone with HIV/AIDs living within it. We would obviously have to choose a neutral place for all these people to live and eventually die. I am pretty sure the current number is about 38 million people infected.

This could be the answer to the problem, however unlikely it may be. What do you think about sacrificing some human lives for the sake of the whole? Some human rights violations that would occur are; lack of privacy with all citizens having to be tested for the Virus, Moving the infected from their chosen countries, homes, and families, disallowing breeding within the people and eventually letting them all die. I think I may write a story using this idea sometime in the future. I would like to know how you feel about this,

Note: I am not suggesting this is what should happen.

So what your suggesting is genocide. for some reason I don't feel that will go over to well with the international community
Wouldn't a better idea to be i don't know find a cure. Im also sure that would be easer.

Again, wasn't suggesting this is what should be done, just wanted to get people's input about human rights and their views on sacrificing them if it serves the world as a whole. But some people seem to prefer to make me out as a Nazi.

 

[martin's a madman]

After reading some of the comments on this thread, I am feeling violently sick. Seriously, some of this stuff sounds like it could've come out of Hitler's own mouth.

Sort of, but it would be in German.

 

[martin's a madman]

nothing would be sacrificed because we don't have rights

rights are something that CANT be taken away ... anytime the government feel like they need to they will treat u like crap and throw all your "rights" out the window

we don't have rights, we have privileges ... because privileges can be taken away .. rights can't

I've argued that a dozen times already. Trust me, that argument falls on deaf ears here, because people would rather live oblivious and at peace in the paper-thin security blankets of law and rights.

Ahh, very good point, I like what you have said there I agree this is the type of input I would have liked instead of being accused of suggesting that I want this to happen immediately or if I think this would 100% solve all of our problems.

 

[martin's a madman]

Its a really bad idea. And we, as a whole of totally unimportant peoples must do everything to protect our laws. Sorry but if we allowed world governments to disobey our rights (which US gov is doing in a huuuuge scale right now) so openly, it would pretty much be end of free man. Ok so what happens if every infected (even though its simply not possible to capture end hold hostage each every one) dissapear. HIV virus is gone and there are no risk of ppl having aids. (yeah right)

But there are lots of others dangerous/deadly/easly spreaded sicknesses, that are just not as "popular" as aids which is IMO a little bit too over exaggerated by the mass media. They kill millions of people every year. Some even every few months. Sepsis, Influenza and many many others. They kill more than aids and are way easier to catch (for example with Sepsis you just have to drink from the same glass as the infected person). What do you do then? The world is connected after getting rid of Aids, now time for other sicknesses, like those I mentioned.

No. This idea is just bad, and there is no possibility of such exit from the aids situation. someone someday is going to find a cure. (probably the guys that created it... oh don't tell me you think aids isn't artificial ;/) And then its going to be expensive as hell. I'm afraid we are never going to get absolutely rid of it. Unless our immune system develops it's own natural way.

Thank you, I appreciate your ideas. I like that you answered the question instead of ignoring it and simply bringing things to a personal level.

 

[TheMatt]

No... just no.

And the end never justifies the means.

I completely disagree with this blanket statement. The ends often justify the means.

It is impossible.

To many lives would be lost and its not 100% fullproof. Plus. Monkeys can still spread it.

That's a considered and well-informed opinion you have there, buddy.

Yah, I noticed that one too. Hilarious.