Poll: AIDS, it could be eradicated but human rights would need to be sacrificed.

[The Infamous Scamola]

Listen, shut the fuck up! I already had this discussion, don't go off and play armchair general, you jackass.

Milions? Are you kidding? Thousands more like, and thousands of what? American soldiers who already knew what they were getting into when they signed up, but guess what, to the American government American G.I.s /= Japanese civilians. Japan was already broken by the time America dropped the A-bomb. And ok, maybe the dropping of one bomb might have been justified, but two? That was just a fucking dick move on their part, not even letting them gather info and actually realize what happened.


But whatever, I don't care, I've already had this discussion a milion times, and nothing anyone will say will change anyones mind.

 

[TaborMallory]

You know what? Why not just keep the infected people from having sex?
After a generation, STDs and AIDS will be gone for a long while. It would work beautifully, but too bad humans are stupid.

Monkeys can spread AIDS???

By what I've learned, AIDS originally broke out when tribes in Africa ate infected monkeys.

 

[johnman]

When it comes to deporting War criminals, Hate preachers and Terrorists, I am more than happy to remove human rights. But the idea your proposing is far too big for it too work. There will undoubtedly be a few infect who do as much as they can to spread the disease when they hear of it, in fact its already been done.

What defines terrorists? treason? doing harm to the public? then kick out of of the US government.....

War criminals is a bit easier to do but Hate preachers are merely enacting their right to free speech, if hate speech(non specific violent type) is made illicit then any other kind of speech can be because government and the public have neither the heart nor the will to put up with it.

And therin lies the problem

 

[Skeleon]

No, you can't just throw human rights out the windows whenever they're inconvenient.
There are other ways to minimize AIDS. Too bad the Catholic church, still an extremely powerful organisation, works in directly the other direction.
Sexual education is what is necessary. That and condoms. Loads of condoms.

 

[xXGeckoXx]

You cant stop it. The world just wants to have our plastic.

Bill carson?

Plus there are loads of people we don't know have aids.

 

[trainer70]

Well, there is a cure. It's been found recently.

All you have to do is transplant bone marrow from a healthy specimen.
it'd be costly and hurt a lot, but ah well no pain no gain.

 

[Cowabungaa]

You would've made a great German circa 1939.

My only problem with Hitler is that he was prejudiced - if you're going to kill people, don't discriminate.
That's fucked up.

I had an environmental science class where we had to come up with a solution to an environmental problem if we had a limited power magic wand. I came up with a population reduction by lottery that solved a lot of problems but when I discussed it in class only 3 people in class weren't appalled. Luckily I dated 1 of them and befriended the other 2 so it was worth alienating the class. I still love how the prof shook his head as I happily discussed excess population eradication.

It's a sad but true fact that there are too many humans in some parts of the world. Nature will take care of that sooner or later, you'll see. That always happens. PS: How did the dating go.

 

[SultanP]

I've been saying the same as OP for years, except that shooting people who are tested positive on the spot would also be a viable option, if we went so far as to want to rid ourselves of AIDS. Then we wouldn't have to find a place for them to live. And we could use the place where they could have lived as a place to send all criminals.

 

[Adeptus_Astartes]

Ok they way i see it we have two options here that would work, we actually have three but i dont think shooting civilians on the spot would be the best idea ever. It tends to cause revolts and riots and insurgencies and stuff. And then NATO might get involved and it would be a big huge mess.

Quarantine is probably the best of the options if we were to do anything, and it doesnt really have to limit rights that much. pretty much it would be like, you live here and your not really alowed to travel outside this certain area, or we could make it public record or something make them get a marker. Or maybe even better we could find a cure.

those are of course just some basic ideas if we could find a fool proof way to detect people who were infected without sticking them with a needle or anything like a scanner deal it could actually be a viable option

 

[Bloodstain]

You know, I think it would be okay. BUT there are two problems:
1. The imagination of finding EVERYONE who has the HI-Virus is unrealistic.
2. The result of an AIDS-Test is not 100% correct. Used on this huge amount of people being tested, there would be MANY false positives and false negatives. The former is more bad, as it destroys your aim of putting every infected person under quarantine.

Nice try.

EDIT: Oh yeah, my first post. Hello Escapist!

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

After reading some of the comments on this thread, I am feeling violently sick. Seriously, some of this stuff sounds like it could've come out of Hitler's own mouth.

 

[Evertw]

I'm going to say no.

Human rights aren't a thing to be turned on and off at will each time there is a problem.

 

[Mr0llivand3r]

i still think the easiest way to get rid of AIDS and other STDs is for the person with that desease(s) to get the name of whatever diseases they have tattooed in very small letters above their "genital area".

It's concealable, and that way whoever that person fucks would know beforehand that they are putting themselves at risk.

 

[Del-Toro]

Most people who have it brought it on themselves, they spread it around, and they still have the gall to act like the victims? The end justifies the means.

Please, elucidate upon your views. I'm fascinated.

It's very simple. The initial spread of AIDS, to my knowledge, was via the consumption of infected monkey brains and therefore accidental.It is currently spread via three methods:
1) Botched blood tranfusions, which happen rarely enough that those people actually are the victims.
2) Birth from an AIDS infected mother, another somewhat rare situation, in which the child cannot be blamed.
3) By far the absolute most common, due to lack of education in Africa and lack of self control/morals/intelligence in The West is sexual transmission. In Africa we need to crack down and get across that it's not acceptable or effective to screw children as a cure for AIDS. In North America it's the barflies and the village bicycles who are most commonly infected and the dishonest, lecherous and mean spirited who tend to spread it. You've seen the news stories about the people who spread their AIDS around because they get some sick pleasure out of it. It's less covered now but I highly doubt less common. These people brought their situation on themselves. Rape victims are the exception.

What I am saying is that on a lot of occasions, the victims brought it on themselves and, in North Ameica, the rest of us should not be under the impression that we owe them anything or that most are the innocent victims who had the conditions under which they were infected forced upon them. Unless they were raped, or tranfused, or born that way, they made all their own choices and now they face the consequences.

Let the cure for Cancer spread to all corners of the world. Let the cure for AIDS never see any shores but Africa's.