Poll: ak47 vs m16
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The Armalite Rifle and it's derivatives are among the finest rifles ever produced. While that statement may not be entirely true, they are certainly fine weapons. They require regular maintenance, but if this requirement is met, they function just fine. The Kalashnikov rifles are cheap, mass produce-able weapons designed for massed fire at relatively close ranges. I'll take the AR-15 in most situations.
Considering that back in my homeland Africa, everyone and their grandmother owns at least one Ak47, it would be simply unpatriotic for me to pick anything else. Also they are easier to maintain and have a more intuitive design.
But hey if you dont believe me, then maybe you will believe Mr. Nicholas Cage!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAHXosoNlvo&feature=related
But hey if you dont believe me, then maybe you will believe Mr. Nicholas Cage!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAHXosoNlvo&feature=related
...so when your M16 gets dirt on it and misfires, I'll take yours off your corpse. The original M16 had a lot of reliability issues, ALOT. If the poll, had been M4 or the M16A2, that'd be a different story. Now if this was a post-apocalyptic game, 5.56mm NATO (or .223 Remington for those of us who dwell in the US) would be much more plentiful as pretty much every western military uses the round. However, for the punch and reliability you can't beat an old fashioned Automat Kalashnikov.Ordinaryundone said:
I apologize if you feel insulted, that was not my intention, I just feel that neither rifle is accurately represented in any shooter or game. Also, why isn't there any representation on the AK variants, like the Israeli made Galil, or Saiga variant(which makes a really sweet semi-auto shotgun that looks and uses the same parts as an AK). I know they're not what everyone recognizes, but wouldn't be fun to put some new weapons into everyone's games.
AK47. It's more reliable and easier to clean and maintain. It may not be as accurate as the M16, but it still is quite accurate, more so than it gets credit for.
in rl - M16
in game - M16
There's a reason that its more expensive (hint: because its the better gun)
in game - M16
There's a reason that its more expensive (hint: because its the better gun)
when you master the recoil the ak47 is the superior firearm
the ak47 is well known as being one of the most realiable guns in the world and in the hands of a skilled user is both powerful and accurate for every range
although everyone knows that hollow point rounds are more effective up close
the ak47 is well known as being one of the most realiable guns in the world and in the hands of a skilled user is both powerful and accurate for every range
although everyone knows that hollow point rounds are more effective up close
I'd choose the M16, BECAUSE I'M A REAL AMERICAN.
In seriousness though, probably the M16. I've fired both weapons and I don't care much for AKs. They don't fit my shoulder well. Though if I really needed something I knew would always work, I might choose an AK. But just beween the two weapons, I much prefer the M16.
In seriousness though, probably the M16. I've fired both weapons and I don't care much for AKs. They don't fit my shoulder well. Though if I really needed something I knew would always work, I might choose an AK. But just beween the two weapons, I much prefer the M16.
AK-47. Two reasons. First, it's brutally effective. The 7.62mm round is devastatingly effective and the AK-47 is one of the toughest guns in the world. You can drag it from mud, sand, and water and the thing will still pretty reliably fire. Secondly, the AK is one of the most common weapons in the world. Ammo and replacement parts will never be in short supply in the foreseeable future.
I know all these things, But some the advantages it brings are good. but like I said. If anything id take the M14 as it is good up to 300 Yards and Field stripping is basically yanking out the receiver. But I agree, The M16 kicks ass in more ways than 10. more Rails, better handling and good range makes it a devastating weapon ( Iv handled all 3 and have 2 of them)But being able to bury that thing for weeks at a time and then still being able to fire the thing with out cleaning would be helpful in a messy situation. But in the end , Yes I think they are both capable of Knocking the S*** out of a Towel Headbibblles said:
This generally why I dont Pick the AK in these conversations as it will always lead back to the whole being in a video game. I give lectures on that stuff to my class mates ( es, im in high school, but I actually know what the hell im doing) as most of what they see in a video game is epic bull shit inaccuracy, and I explain how often jamming can occur, barrel over heat, recoil, wind, and sights and how there called Iron sights not hard scopes and that they never try to do that in real life. And yea, I know 5.56 will shatter inside of you, but still, firing on a vehicle with the 7.62 will get your targets hit, the 5.56 isnt going to penetrate heavier armor as well as it would with the 7.62, but on a side note how many of todays enemy's in the middle east wear body armor? ( not meaning to sound like a douch bag)manaman said:
Well it really depends on which round you are using. The standard 5.56 round actually penetrates a little to much in softer spots in the body, while it does have a tendency to yaw when it encounters a density change (going from air into a person) in many cases (like gut shots) the bullet will pass straight through a person. The military has developed a handful of other rounds to counter these problems and uses them as needed, including armor piercing rounds M855 (65 grain steel tip) and it's companion M855 lead free (tungsten penetrator). These rounds can tear right through a vehicle or most body armors especially then new M855A1 they started to ship to combat zones midway through last year. All tests indicate it performs better then 7.62 rounds at penetration especially through steel.toastmaster2k8 said:
In other words, bullet tech has come a long way, and carrying smaller rounds is far more effective then larger rounds, most of the reliability issues people bring up only crop up after 1000+ rounds of ammunition fired. That's far more ammo then you can ever carry with either weapon, and if you are not field striping and cleaning an actively used service weapon whenever possible you will run into those problems no matter what weapon you are using. In other words reliability differences are mostly the product of myth, and the ammo is superior on the M16. The military isn't exactly stupid, or worried about money at all costs. The US military does have a $300 billion budget after all.
Galil is in Black Ops, and the Saiga 20 shotgun is in Bad Company 2, IIRC.BrionJames said:
And the question was about games, and very few FPS games have weapon degradation or jamming. So its a moot point.
Galil is in Black Ops, and the Saiga 20 shotgun is in Bad Company 2, IIRC.
And the question was about games, and very few FPS games have weapon degradation or jamming. So its a moot point.[/quote]
Your right. It just seems kind of stupid, when games tout realism as one of there "features". The only games I've played that featured any sort of weapon jamming, were, System Shock 2 and Far Cry 2.
And the question was about games, and very few FPS games have weapon degradation or jamming. So its a moot point.[/quote]
Your right. It just seems kind of stupid, when games tout realism as one of there "features". The only games I've played that featured any sort of weapon jamming, were, System Shock 2 and Far Cry 2.
It's a little late, but is that a L4D2 reference? Yeah, I'll just take my cookie now anyways.Aurora219 said: