Over the past few weeks I've been watching history and discovery channels and got to thinking. What percentage of smart people (most of you) think Aliens or ETs exist.
Poll: Aliens
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I know aliens exist. How you might ask? Well someone has to make all my fancy weapons now don't ya think?
Yes.
Whether they live near enough for a human to reach them within our short lifespans (space is so big it'll take more than your life to get anywhere) is another matter entirely.
Whether they live near enough for a human to reach them within our short lifespans (space is so big it'll take more than your life to get anywhere) is another matter entirely.
Why not?
You really think that Humans invented the Weather Balloon?
(In all seriousness, still Why not? So much space, surely someone else is filling part of it somewhere.)
You really think that Humans invented the Weather Balloon?
(In all seriousness, still Why not? So much space, surely someone else is filling part of it somewhere.)
Life somewhere else in the universe?
Almost guaranteed. Organic molecules can exist in space and have in fact been detected out there.
Complex life (=cellular/multicellular or equivivalent) somewhere else in the universe?
Highly likely.
Intelligent life somewhere else in the universe?
Most certainly possible.
Intelligent life somewhere near us in galactic terms?
Impropable.
A starfaring civilization somewhere near us in galactic terms?
Extremely Unlikely.
A starfaring civilization somewhere near us in galactic terms that has visited our planet during the past million or so years?
So ludicrously impropable as to make me laugh.
Note: above are presented the subjective notions of this one Escapist and given propability scale is based only rudimentarily in mathematics and evidence.
Almost guaranteed. Organic molecules can exist in space and have in fact been detected out there.
Complex life (=cellular/multicellular or equivivalent) somewhere else in the universe?
Highly likely.
Intelligent life somewhere else in the universe?
Most certainly possible.
Intelligent life somewhere near us in galactic terms?
Impropable.
A starfaring civilization somewhere near us in galactic terms?
Extremely Unlikely.
A starfaring civilization somewhere near us in galactic terms that has visited our planet during the past million or so years?
So ludicrously impropable as to make me laugh.
Note: above are presented the subjective notions of this one Escapist and given propability scale is based only rudimentarily in mathematics and evidence.
I don't see how people can't. There's sooo many galaxies. And each galaxy with a large amount of stars that house a solar system. So there's probably more than 1 million planets out there.
And I know we got REAL lucky with Earth. Being the perfect size and distance away from a perfect type of sun. But even if that's a 1/100,000,000 chance, it CAN and most likely will happen again. Considering the universe is probably expansive beyond our beliefs.
I also think it'd be kinda cool if they were more primitive than us. But still intelligent. Cause I never understand why whenever someone says, "Aliens!" they immediately assume that it's a species much more powerful than ours.
And I know we got REAL lucky with Earth. Being the perfect size and distance away from a perfect type of sun. But even if that's a 1/100,000,000 chance, it CAN and most likely will happen again. Considering the universe is probably expansive beyond our beliefs.
I also think it'd be kinda cool if they were more primitive than us. But still intelligent. Cause I never understand why whenever someone says, "Aliens!" they immediately assume that it's a species much more powerful than ours.
This is pretty much what I was going to say. Given that there's trillions of stars out there, I think it'd be a bit arrogant to suggest that ours is the only one with a planetary system that could support intelligent life. I reckon the odds are very much in favour of it. As for cartoon aliens: nnnnnnah.Radeonx said:
I'm having trouble finding the article, but for a school project I came across an article that stated that water has been found in distant solar systems.
With that in mind, alien life seems likely.
With that in mind, alien life seems likely.
By saying "believe in" aliens, people make them sound like some form of deity. You don't need to believe in them, the fact is, they almost certainly exist somewhere. There's just too much Universe for there to be only one place with life.
Considering the supposed infinite nature of universe it would be damn waste of free space if Earth was the only planet with sentinent life forms. On the other hand the fact that our planet is actually suitable for life evolution is just pure luck. A slightest shift during the biig bang, forming of our sun, etc would most likely result in Earth never happening (butterfly effect aka chaos theory comes to mind).
It may be that we will never make contact with any of life forms beyond ours, and the whole problem forever will remain just a theory, maybe we will discover them too late and they will already be extinct race. But id rather acknowledge possibility of existance of other species rather than push it away as pure fiction.
It may be that we will never make contact with any of life forms beyond ours, and the whole problem forever will remain just a theory, maybe we will discover them too late and they will already be extinct race. But id rather acknowledge possibility of existance of other species rather than push it away as pure fiction.
It is inconceivable that there wouldn't be other advanced life out in the Galaxy, let alone the universe. It would also be incredibly arrogant to think that just because we haven't seen them (or at least accurately recorded their visits) that they don't exist.
Skeptics commonly forget that humanity is a very young species in the universe. In terms of the existance of the universe, humanity's existance is barely the length of time it takes to blink an eye.
And just because we may be reaching out to the galaxy and beyond looking for other signs of intelligent life, there is a part of me that thinks we may be a bit naive. I think Hawking's right: If there are alien life forms out there, they probably want nothing to do with us. We're very likely too primitive, and/or have nothing beneficial to offer.
As neat as it would be to have alien allies like Vulcans, Klingons, etc... those preconceptions assume that other races are relatively the same age as we are. In a galaxy that is believed to be billions of years old, the statistical likelihood of that is less than winning the lottery.
Skeptics commonly forget that humanity is a very young species in the universe. In terms of the existance of the universe, humanity's existance is barely the length of time it takes to blink an eye.
And just because we may be reaching out to the galaxy and beyond looking for other signs of intelligent life, there is a part of me that thinks we may be a bit naive. I think Hawking's right: If there are alien life forms out there, they probably want nothing to do with us. We're very likely too primitive, and/or have nothing beneficial to offer.
As neat as it would be to have alien allies like Vulcans, Klingons, etc... those preconceptions assume that other races are relatively the same age as we are. In a galaxy that is believed to be billions of years old, the statistical likelihood of that is less than winning the lottery.
Our galaxy is a truly massive place. Trying to wrap your mind around just how big it really is, well, impossible. It's just not something you can comprehend. You can understand that it's big, but not exactly how big it is. Then we remember that there are also many other galaxies, some bigger and smaller than the milky way. Now every star in every galaxy could possibly have planets orbiting them, and these planets could possibly hold life.
The number of places life could exist in is incomprehensible. Because the universe is just so vast, I believe that is entirely possible that it contains living organisms aside from those on Earth. While the chances of a planet creating any form of life seem to be slim, the sheer size of the galaxy makes me believe that it has occurred somewhere else.
Now, it's important to be clear exactly what kind of alien I am talking about. I am not talking about little men in UFOs that are monitoring Earth. I don't believe aliens have ever visited Earth since their is nothing to suggest that they have. I don't believe any of those theories about aliens directly involving themselves with humans. I only believe that aliens many possibly exist, and that they could be anything ranging from microbes to highly advanced life forms.
The number of places life could exist in is incomprehensible. Because the universe is just so vast, I believe that is entirely possible that it contains living organisms aside from those on Earth. While the chances of a planet creating any form of life seem to be slim, the sheer size of the galaxy makes me believe that it has occurred somewhere else.
Now, it's important to be clear exactly what kind of alien I am talking about. I am not talking about little men in UFOs that are monitoring Earth. I don't believe aliens have ever visited Earth since their is nothing to suggest that they have. I don't believe any of those theories about aliens directly involving themselves with humans. I only believe that aliens many possibly exist, and that they could be anything ranging from microbes to highly advanced life forms.
Considering that the three most common elements in the solar system (and thus by extrapolation, in the universe) are, in order of appearance, Hydrogen (70 mass-%), Helium (27,5 mass-%) and Oxygen (0,6 mass-%), this makes water the most common bi-element molecule in the universe: H2O.ultrachicken said:
So, yeah... Also, a funny totally entirely absolutely unrelated fact: Carbon is the fourth most common element in our solar system, with 0,3 mass percent.
Hydrocarbons and water... hmm....
Hmm, although I COMPLETELY agree with you, aliens ARE a belief. Just how no one can prove that a god exists, and no one can prove that he doesn't. You just BELIEVE either one.The Maddest March Hare said:
Because we can't prove aliens exist and we can't prove that they don't.