Poll: American doctor who?

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historybuff

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Why would he change to American? I can't see that happening. Doctor Who is too well known as an English thing. Even mainstream Americans know that.

Unless this thread was created just so people could slam all Americans. Which, I know people like doing that.

Anyway, I think David Tennant should play The Riddler in the next Batman movie. Wouldn't that be awesome?
 
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mrpoy said:
I understand completely, making Dr. Who American is like if someone took Superman or Spiderman gave them a different accent and had them start eating shitty food with a cup of tea.
Also been done.

Written by John Cleese.

Donnyp said:
America Ruins British T.V. Shows.
Not fair.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_television_series_based_on_British_television_series
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_television_programmes_based_on_American_television_series

For every US Red Dwarf or Life on Mars, there's been a UK Gladiators (even discounting Jet) and Married for Life (UK Married with Children)
 

Baron von Blitztank

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Doctor Who should stay British.
I've taken a peak at some of the other remakes of British shows done in America (Red Dwarf *shudder*) and I find them inferior compared to their British counterparts.
It may work, I don't know, but I don't see an American version holding up.
 

Superbeast

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1) INFORM

I'm assuming here we're talking about the News. The BBC gets its money from the government, however indirectly you try to paint it. As you so aptly stated, the fees are law. That means that the BBC has a responsibility to make Parliament happy, or at least certain members (and their ideologies).
The BBC also has a legal obligation to remain unbiased. Not pandering to the big business giving large amounts of money to the company actually helps in this regard.

If you think the BBC is making the Government happy, then clearly you haven't seen many of the news programs, particularly under the last 4 years of the Labour government.

In America, our news is paid for by the advertising media. Now, that means that TV ratings control what the news says and doesn't say... but it also means that the government has a lot less control over what the news feels comfortable saying. All news is slanted, it's just a question of "by whom." At least here, we can have thousands of different influences instead of Parliament. Also, the PEOPLE can voice what we do and do not like, not just the government figures who decide how much money gets put in next year.
People aren't forced to watch the BBC. Yes, they still pay for it, but if the ratings fall enough then there would be a review into the funding process. It's why the BBC has to remain as impartial as possible, not *not* piss off segments of the population.

To pretend as though BBC has some holy protection from bias and undue influence is to just have a ridiculously closed mind. What a news organization reports, and how they report it, are directly influenced by who signs their paychecks. If it's Pepsi, then they'll probably downplay negative stories about Pepsi. If it's Parliament, they're probably going to shy away from certain issues, or put others up front and in bolder type. Otherwise, they know full well the political wheels turning the whole operation could just as easily grind them under foot.
As I said, some bias does exist, it's almost inevitable. However they do have a charter and thus a legal obligation to remain as objective as possible.

It's why there's no Glenn Beck on the BBC ;)

Maybe, just maybe, no one in the BBC offices makes any money from entertainment-oriented shows ever at all. But the artists who create the shows certainly hope to, I'd bet. And the BBC works with a limited budget (as defined by the fees, as prescribed by law)... so maybe some of the artists wonder, "Hey, I wonder if I could make more money in a more privatized distribution setting?" and maybe some others even wonder, "Hey, could I do an even better job, with more set pieces and special effects and better equipment... if I tried this idea out somewhere I could get a bit more money from the producers?"
As was pointed out, the BBC has the largest funding of any (iirc) British television station. It also puts a lot of effort into bringing amateur works (whether it be films, sketch shows, plays etc) to the public fore, as well as some fantastic documentaries (as has been said, they've declined lately, but just look at the things involving David Attenborough - they were truly top-class).

They do get extra revenue from selling shows to other stations - however these shows are the original British format, and never altered to appeal to a wider audience. Hell, Top Gear is popular internationally, and the BBC gets a shed-load of money as the channel Dave has it on a practically daily basis.

Finally, the BBC is a non-profit organisation (iirc). So the vast majority of the money the company earns goes back into programs, so the quality of many of the things shown is generally quite high (bar those amateur works). Obviously some revenue is deducted to pay for the staff and running of the station. It's why there's such a stink about the amount of money the Director-General and other Executives earn, given the whole chartered duty of the BBC to the British public.

So, all we're getting at here? Enough with this "evil America" bullshit. We don't go chasing shows nearly as often as people chase us down with them. People all over the world are itching for their own share of the American "entertainment dollar," and they're throwing ideas at it all the time. So quit blaming us for "stealing" your crap when really it might be that you need to complain to your OWN people for "prostituting" out their own ideas for a quick buck in another land.
No one is being anti-American. They're just trying to inform you on just how bloody wrong you were about the way the BBC works.
 

mrpoy

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Half created by Canadian, born immigrant, Joe Shuster and Jerry Siegel who was born in Cleveland. There is a lot of subtext in the Superman comics about being an immigrant, adopting his new home, and working to make it better. This is an idealization look at the American melting-pot mentality.
 

Xelt

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American doctor who:

That pretty much sums up my opinion on what it'd be like if it was americanised.
 

ben117

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Epic fail, keep it british cuz they used to film it by my house cuz i live near the estate roze tyler lived and loads of people became intreasted in my area. Dont get me wrong stargate was good but it idolised the american military too much and i feel dr who culd become a massive sellout if goes across the atlantic.
 

ben117

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Also i might add Dr who is done by the BBC which is funded by our tv licence so its our individuall monety that has helped to make it which gives the british public a sense of ownership over bbc dramas that americans would never know about.
 

ben117

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Actually it does look good im not going to lie about that but please,
WHERE THE FUCK IS GENE HUNT,.
 

Colour Scientist

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Vohn_exel said:
See, I want to get into Dr. Who, but there's about 13 seasons that I haven't caught up on. For someone like me that has neither the time nor really the want to pass through all of those backlogs, an American version would give people like me the chance to view it fresh and from the start. Then, when little hints and things start getting dropped and we go "what?" we can come to internet and find out "Oh, it's an homage to when they did 'this' in the first season..."

Not that I'm actually rooting for one. I think Britain has done just fine with their own stuff. It's like watching Are You Being Served? I love that show, but an American version just wouldn't really work. Anyway, I just wanted to provide an example of why some people might think it's a good idea. Hopefully I've accomplished this. Now, what did we learn boys and girls? Thats right. Never go outside.
You can get away with watching the new series'(the last five) and not the earlier ones if the reason you're not watching it is purely because of the volume.
 

Vohn_exel

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Colour-Scientist said:
Vohn_exel said:
See, I want to get into Dr. Who, but there's about 13 seasons that I haven't caught up on. For someone like me that has neither the time nor really the want to pass through all of those backlogs, an American version would give people like me the chance to view it fresh and from the start. Then, when little hints and things start getting dropped and we go "what?" we can come to internet and find out "Oh, it's an homage to when they did 'this' in the first season..."

Not that I'm actually rooting for one. I think Britain has done just fine with their own stuff. It's like watching Are You Being Served? I love that show, but an American version just wouldn't really work. Anyway, I just wanted to provide an example of why some people might think it's a good idea. Hopefully I've accomplished this. Now, what did we learn boys and girls? Thats right. Never go outside.
You can get away with watching the new series'(the last five) and not the earlier ones if the reason you're not watching it is purely because of the volume.
Well as I said I have to finish Fringe first as well. Once I get done with that show, I must just check it out.
 

Chardan

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Yeah, I'm not even going to read the next 5 pages, so I'll just say that they can make it should they see it viable, but I won't consider it Canon. Not a chance in hell of that.
 

Optimus Hagrid

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
CrikeyO said:
Milky_Fresh said:
Why the fuck does this keep happening. Remember when Life on Mars didn't suck?
You're going to ask if I've been living under a rock but for the love of Dawkins tell me they didn't remake it for America?
Twice.
Why did they get a potato to play the role of Sam Tyler?

Yeah, it looks like they completely fucked over the gritty emphasis of the original series.
 

Boba Frag

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NO.

That will be all.

The myriad sensible reasons why this would be an unremitting disaster have already been well covered by others on this thread.

Everything would get lost in translation.

The American pilot of Spaced died a horrible, horrible death for well deserved reasons.

Committee design again.
 

Jezixo

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An American Doctor Who would be like an Independence Day celebration in Trafalgar Square, or a British Statue of Liberty. It might seem odd, but Doctor Who is absolutely an icon of British culture, alongside tea and crumpets, red telephone booths, policemen with silly shaped helmets, the houses of parliament and the rest. The Tardis and the Daleks are long established signifiers of British entertainment (Daleks quite obviously resemble Nazi tanks, and their constant destruction by sheer British ingenuity is telling). To have them appear as American would be pretty screwed up.

Besides, why would you want to do that? The premise isn't all that great by itself. You could easily make a superior science fiction show that actually belongs in America - except that Joss Whedon already did that with Firefly (All the civil war/wild west analogies make it not only excellent, but by far the most 'American' sci-fi yet) and it got cancelled.