Yet that just points out multiple languages again. Greek and LatinThe_root_of_all_evil post=18.70217.689844 said:
Poll: American English or English English?
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Which English is derived from...I could also source Cul-De-Sac, Aspirin, Apartheid, Banana...Celestrial post=9.70217.689853 said:
English is the bastard of all languages. Because Fish can be spelt Ghoti [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti]
You don't think the english language just popped out of nowhere do you? It's a hybrid of many different languages (Latin and greek very much included) which has grown out on it's own right over hundreds of years. We use latin words all the time.
Edit: Ah, Ninja'd it seems.
Edit: Ah, Ninja'd it seems.
I knew that, I am just stating that other languages have their own names for the elements. Only the letters are universal. I can't remember the Japanese word for gold but I am sure it isn't related to AU either,
EDIT: "go-rudo, kogane, kin" is what I got when i translated gold to Japanese.
EDIT: "go-rudo, kogane, kin" is what I got when i translated gold to Japanese.
I think BrEng is more sophisticated in written form, but since I am an American, I speak in American.
What's all this talk about Japan and Gold now? I thought this thread was about what type of English you prefer. Gold in American is Gold in British, Au is the symbol for the periodic tables for both countries. Come on! *claps hands* We're losing focus.
You're in good company, even some Americans say that.shakeslol post=18.70217.689900 said:
I like to think it's more phoenetic and efficient but you know, DIVERSITY!
Sorry I was just stating that the letters on the periodic table were universal not the names for the elements.The Iron Ninja post=18.70217.689893 said:
That being said, THIS [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-speaking_population] list is one I like to bring up to friends that think the three main English speaking countries are USA UK and Australia.
I usually use American English's retard child: Californian English. I hate using Californian English because it makes me sound like I'm like most of the people here: the girls around here are plastic and fickle, and the guys are dumb surfer/skateboarders, so whenever I can I try to use British English because Im just a brit born in california.
P.S. the SAS in CoD4 are way cooler than the marines, and thier missions and whatnot is more my style.
P.S. the SAS in CoD4 are way cooler than the marines, and thier missions and whatnot is more my style.
most come from Latin or Greek, aurum was the Latin for gold hence AU as its symbol.Celestrial post=18.70217.689830 said:
Aluminium wise, I found this on Wiki. Was pretty sure it was the case already, but checked first as to not seem like an ill informed dumbass (not calling any names, just saying I wanted to be sure I had my facts straight)
On a sort of off topic note: What the hell is with Strine? (Australians, explain yourselves)
What that means is that although I could argue that Aluminium is the prefered option. Arguing about which is the right way to spell/say it is pretty pointless.Wikipedia said:
On a sort of off topic note: What the hell is with Strine? (Australians, explain yourselves)
And it was, though I was very much drunk at the time, so anything would have been funny.Rshady post=18.70217.689935 said:I always thought slag, when used as a British insult meant 'slut'or something similar mainly aimed at women (though It's often hilarious to call blokes slags as well.
British english, being english and all. tho unfortunatly now with a slight herefordshire accent
(tenbury has to be the only place in the world where its not thought of as wierd to pronounce the work "head" as "yud" - most people here do. and unless being sarcastic i completely refuse to)
i often write in american english purely out of laziness (see above)
edit: interesting link here for different voices around the uk: http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/recordings/index.shtml
(tenbury has to be the only place in the world where its not thought of as wierd to pronounce the work "head" as "yud" - most people here do. and unless being sarcastic i completely refuse to)
i often write in american english purely out of laziness (see above)
edit: interesting link here for different voices around the uk: http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/recordings/index.shtml
Ultimately, I use educated American English spiced with British terminology and occasionally spelling (mostly by accident)
I find it humorous (humourous) that many of the English assume that they're the true protectors of the language and correct by default. What gets ignored quite often is that modern "this is the BBC" English is mostly a legacy of the 20th century; prior to that, there existed a bent toward what me consider British pronunciation in average but many speaking with accents not to dissimilar to those in portions of the US (Stamped out by the wave of public-school Oxford education). Also, British English has evolved over time almost as much as US English has. There are pockets of "mountain people" in the US which essentially speak century-old northern British english.
I'm an Anglophile with regards to a great many things (marmalade, crackers and cheese, the Beeb, Doctor Who, British authors; I drive an antique Devon farmer-esque Land-Rover that I rebuilt, for pity's sake. However, I can't get on board with considering any one nation the ultimate authority on what English is. Americans get the stick for allowing Daniel Webster to say "Fuck this Shit" and make a dictionary, but he can be forgiven because spellings were quite fluid up until that time and he was setting himself (and the US) apart not from established convention so much as his British contemporaries' rationalization.
I find it humorous (humourous) that many of the English assume that they're the true protectors of the language and correct by default. What gets ignored quite often is that modern "this is the BBC" English is mostly a legacy of the 20th century; prior to that, there existed a bent toward what me consider British pronunciation in average but many speaking with accents not to dissimilar to those in portions of the US (Stamped out by the wave of public-school Oxford education). Also, British English has evolved over time almost as much as US English has. There are pockets of "mountain people" in the US which essentially speak century-old northern British english.
I'm an Anglophile with regards to a great many things (marmalade, crackers and cheese, the Beeb, Doctor Who, British authors; I drive an antique Devon farmer-esque Land-Rover that I rebuilt, for pity's sake. However, I can't get on board with considering any one nation the ultimate authority on what English is. Americans get the stick for allowing Daniel Webster to say "Fuck this Shit" and make a dictionary, but he can be forgiven because spellings were quite fluid up until that time and he was setting himself (and the US) apart not from established convention so much as his British contemporaries' rationalization.
There is no such thing as "American English".
This is from "Declaration of Revocation of Independence" by John Cleese (I think).
1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium." Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it.
The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour'; skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters.
You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the suffix "ize" will be replaced by the suffix "ise."
You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to re-spell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation.
Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary." Using the same thirty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "uhh", "like", and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication.
Look up "interspersed."
There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary, then you won't have to use bad language as often.
2. There is no such thing as "US English. We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize."
3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to cockney, upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier).
You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents --- Scottish dramas such as "Taggart" will no longer be broadcast with subtitles.
This is from "Declaration of Revocation of Independence" by John Cleese (I think).
1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium." Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it.
The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour'; skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters.
You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the suffix "ize" will be replaced by the suffix "ise."
You will learn that the suffix 'burgh' is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to re-spell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation.
Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary." Using the same thirty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "uhh", "like", and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication.
Look up "interspersed."
There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary, then you won't have to use bad language as often.
2. There is no such thing as "US English. We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize."
3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to cockney, upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier).
You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents --- Scottish dramas such as "Taggart" will no longer be broadcast with subtitles.
Great stuff there, especially this part:
Stuff like this always reminds me of the Only Fools and Horses episode 'Miami Twice' where every American they meet thinks they're Australian.Grubnar post=18.70217.690050 said:
I tend to default to American English because that is wear I live, but as I learn and chat with British blokes, I am starting to pick up little mannerisms like swearing (vague grasp at best), so it's a dynamic mix dependent on who I'm talking to and what I'm talking about..
Something about the alure of American grit is just fascinating to me though, that, and idioms, it seems like modern, American rap music is adding new phrases to the young folks dictionary everyday. "We tikitiki'd to the Corner Store and flibidbity-dooed the owner and snizzle-snozzled the owner's wife" <---- will be Soulja Boy's next hit.
Since it seems to be a matter of contention:
"Uh-Loom-in-um"
Something about the alure of American grit is just fascinating to me though, that, and idioms, it seems like modern, American rap music is adding new phrases to the young folks dictionary everyday. "We tikitiki'd to the Corner Store and flibidbity-dooed the owner and snizzle-snozzled the owner's wife" <---- will be Soulja Boy's next hit.
Since it seems to be a matter of contention:
"Uh-Loom-in-um"
Isn't that mostly just a rant from a random angry Brit with no power over anything other than whatever means he distrubuted his random rant?Grubnar post=18.70217.690050 said:
Who is actually scientifically wrong on some points, limited vocabulary is more efficient (albeit only slightly) because common words take less time to interpret into meaning. I also find it very funny that he argues that we're lazy to use timesaving techniques such as dropping unessessary letters and also that we're inefficient to use fewer words. And of course, British English has far more words that call for bleeping in Jerry Springer than American English.
And where's the "a" in -burgh. Don't we have the word burough if we're calling it "burra?" Wouldn't that mean burgh is nothing more than a lazy shortening of burough, like fo'c'sle (forecastle)? And it doesn't even have the obligatory apostraphe!
Of course this is just preaching to the choir, just saying what they're all thinking more eloquently than they could and with a false pretense of authority.
And now I finally understand why they say "Zed Pee Em" in SGA sometimes. But really, what other letter is said with two vowels (aside from "double-yoo")?
Lastly, I'd like to explain why Americans seem to recognize only a few British dialects and accents. There's too damn many! Britain's number of accents is greater than all of mainland Europe's, and Brits all speak the same language.
Really, does every district of every town and every farming village have it's own unique accent?
It's not like it's your fault (it comes from having a static population with little or no intercommunication, you know Medieval Britain, then compound that with the unreasonable variety of cultural backgrounds), but's it's not like Americans (who have 3, maybe 5 appreciably different accents in the entire country) are going to understand them.
Think about it, if you were 15 by the time you heard an accent different from your own would you be any good at understanding heavy accents? Also consider that you're accent is one of the most generically intelligible in the world.
And (correct me if I'm wrong) isn't "eh" (pronounced "ai" or "a, ee" run together, a grunt meaning "Do you understand me?") commonly said in Britain because of these various almost unintelligible dialects?
(yes, I'm aware of the Canadian stereotype)
And don't interpret the is as judgement, just a rebounding argument without maliscious intent trying to keep to verifiable fact and avoid questionable opinion.
